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10 of 32 terrorists at Beslan were Arab nationals with Al Qaida ties
WORLD TRIBUNE ^ | Monday, September 6, 2004

Posted on 09/06/2004 1:04:58 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember

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The mainstream media is spiking this important story, because al Queda would do this (or worse) in a heartbeat here in the USA.
1 posted on 09/06/2004 1:04:59 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: FormerACLUmember

Now they are good al Queda.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 1:07:10 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Well, they can spike all they want. The world needs to hear this latest development to this story. The more terrorists attacks there are around the world, the more people will realize President George W. Bush is right. We must defeat them in their land so we won't have to deal with them here in our land.


3 posted on 09/06/2004 1:09:30 PM PDT by no dems (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.... (Psalm 122:6))
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To: no dems

The time has come to destroy the democrat mainstream media, as the enemies of our nation they are.


4 posted on 09/06/2004 1:12:01 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FormerACLUmember; Happy2BMe; Travis McGee; blam; risk; SJackson; Jeff Head; Alouette; dennisw; ...
TROPTM bump
5 posted on 09/06/2004 1:12:24 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: FormerACLUmember

Ok, where's the response by Prince Abdullah? Once again, his countrymen are involved in terror. What, no statement? Ok, how about some action to stop recruitment and disassemble cells? Sifting sands, sifting sands.


6 posted on 09/06/2004 1:14:49 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: FormerACLUmember

May they get their reward of 72 Helen Thomas Clones, or Bella Abzug clones each.


7 posted on 09/06/2004 1:17:33 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: FormerACLUmember
According to this, at least one of the terrorists was an Algerian with a British passport. We need a little more confirmation of who these people were.
8 posted on 09/06/2004 1:18:29 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: FormerACLUmember
The mainstream media is spiking this important story, because al Queda would do this (or worse) in a heartbeat here in the USA.

They're spiking it because it shows that Arab-Islamic terrorism isn't solely the consequence of Israeli and American "foreign policy," but the consequence of the "religion" of Islam itself. And that un-PC fact horrifies them to no end.

9 posted on 09/06/2004 1:19:05 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: FormerACLUmember

To tell this story as it should be told would mean that Kerry has NO chance. Every word of it would add votes to Bush's totals.

There is no more evil force on the face of the earth than the RATmedia.


10 posted on 09/06/2004 1:21:40 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Investor's Business Daily printed this information last Friday front page above the fold.


11 posted on 09/06/2004 1:23:12 PM PDT by snopercod (I have no interest in streamlining government or making it more efficient, I mean to reduce its size)
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To: Mr. Mojo
(The mainstream media is) spiking it because it shows that Arab-Islamic terrorism isn't solely the consequence of Israeli and American "foreign policy," but the consequence of the "religion" of Islam itself.

Absolutely true. And it empowers George Bush's plans for dealing with the war.

12 posted on 09/06/2004 1:23:27 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
There is no more evil force on the face of the earth than the RATmedia.

Serious Bump.

13 posted on 09/06/2004 1:24:21 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Islam is as Islam does. Even a Gump should recognize that by now.
14 posted on 09/06/2004 1:24:59 PM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: FormerACLUmember

The more I read the SICKER I get!!! This is just sooo horrible...there aren't words to express my feelings about this!!!


15 posted on 09/06/2004 1:27:06 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: FormerACLUmember
"The 10 Arab nationals came from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria"

Well Jordan is generally supportive of the US. I think the jury is still out of Saudi Arabia but Bush seems to want to give them a pass, and I trust Bush. That leaves Syria.

I doubt the US would mind if Russia wants to eliminate that little problem for the world.

16 posted on 09/06/2004 1:28:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: broadsword
Even a Gump should recognize that by now.

Call me Forrest.

17 posted on 09/06/2004 1:28:34 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: shield
The more I read the SICKER I get!!! This is just sooo horrible...there aren't words to express my feelings about this!!! Wait. This will bea long war, and the Islamofascists are creative.
18 posted on 09/06/2004 1:28:56 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: shield
The more I read the SICKER I get!!! This is just sooo horrible...there aren't words to express my feelings about this!!!

Wait. This will bea long war, and the Islamofascists are creative.

19 posted on 09/06/2004 1:29:08 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FormerACLUmember
I don't see how this could be true. I scanned the front page of the NYT today in the airport while travelling (you don't expect me to buy the thing, do you), and according to the Paper Of Record, the terrorists (my word) were "Chechen rebels" and included Russian nationals, as well as "others of undetermined nationality. (sarcasm off...)

Obviously the NYT isn't alert enough to figure out that the thing they all have in common is that they are Muslims, and that at least some of those mystery nationalities are Arabic...

This story is being spiked and spun in a major way indeed, both out of political correctness, and because it would only bolster Bush's contention that we are in the midst of a major worldwide war...

20 posted on 09/06/2004 1:35:58 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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10 of 32 terrorists at Beslan were Arab nationals with Al Qaida ties

Or read another way.....30 out of 32 terrorists support John Kerry.

21 posted on 09/06/2004 1:38:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.)
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Found a Christian site that specifically tracks these articles and the koran ... fwiw

http://www.thequran.com/home/

other name

http://www.thekoran.com/


22 posted on 09/06/2004 1:52:42 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: FormerACLUmember
The mainstream media is spiking this important story, because al-Qeada would do this (or worse) in a heartbeat here in the USA.

Yes. Their monopoly is over. It will get out.  But please do not call them "mainstream."  Liberal Media or Old Media please.

 

23 posted on 09/06/2004 2:31:22 PM PDT by etradervic (Kerry is a Left-Wing Dinosaur)
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To: etradervic

How about Lamestream?


24 posted on 09/06/2004 2:35:25 PM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The mainstream media is spiking this important story, because al Queda would do this (or worse) in a heartbeat here in the USA.

"They're spiking it because it shows that Arab-Islamic terrorism isn't solely the consequence of Israeli and American "foreign policy," but the consequence of the "religion" of Islam itself. And that un-PC fact horrifies them to no end."

They are also spiking it as we approach the 3rd anniversary of 9/11. The MSM would like all Americans to forget about 9/11, the mass murdering of 3,000 Americans by al Qaeda and Islamofascists.

The MSM want us to worry about enabling Gays to be married in our churches and how to tax us more for their voters.


25 posted on 09/06/2004 2:36:39 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Come up with a plan and I'm with you.


26 posted on 09/06/2004 2:40:03 PM PDT by no dems (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.... (Psalm 122:6))
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To: Bobby777
Bookmarked - thank you!

www.thequran.com

27 posted on 09/06/2004 3:13:01 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you.)
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To: SandRat

Hanan Ashrawi, but alas! She is not a virgin. Her honor was taken by the infidel, Peter Jennings!


28 posted on 09/06/2004 3:35:14 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: FormerACLUmember

So bad , Seems like more Arab countries support those terrorists .


29 posted on 09/06/2004 4:33:07 PM PDT by Nepalis
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To: FormerACLUmember
".....here in the USA......"

I fear.

30 posted on 09/06/2004 4:35:37 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The 10 Arab nationals came from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria

This is news?? Sounds more like a broken record.

31 posted on 09/06/2004 4:41:58 PM PDT by germanicus
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To: FormerACLUmember

The day before yesterday CNN put on the air an Arab journalist in an expensive suit who said there is no excusing or explaining this massacre and then tried to excuse and explain. He said all the Arabs came from countries under occupation and oppression, namely Iraq and Palestan. Of course, he was wrong - they came from Saudi and Syria and Jordan.


32 posted on 09/06/2004 5:03:27 PM PDT by Montaignes Cat
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To: FormerACLUmember; Bobby777
Once again the 'rats in the "old media" are trying to spike the news. Their monopoly is broken, their era is over. Now, they just announce their bias and irrelevency, because even Joe Sixpack can see through them.


33 posted on 09/06/2004 5:22:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

you would think all the journalists being killed would do such. Remember one thing, Saudi oil money supposedly is linked to world media. I don't have facts on this so I would need someone to confirm. Most reporters, broadcast, written or otherwise are part of corporate structures and are "managed". Some might want to tell the truth, but they'd only get it out once. And sometimes never.


34 posted on 09/06/2004 5:29:58 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Travis McGee

Your right, but it gets tiresome. And the stakes are higher than many realize. So many of my coworkers(UAW) do not believe a terrorist attack can happen here again. It's only a matter of when and where.


35 posted on 09/06/2004 5:39:38 PM PDT by exnavy
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To: Bobby777

The MSM is dying slowly, but we are watching it die. It'll take time though.


36 posted on 09/06/2004 5:42:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: exnavy

They just found 22 Chinese men at a Motel in Texas, who had just been brought over. If they can bring over 22 Chinese, they can bring over 22 terrorists.

And instead of being abandoned by greed-motivated coyotes, terrorists will be driven all the way to their target cities by their dedicated jihadist "in place" support cell.


37 posted on 09/06/2004 5:43:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Grampa Dave

Great post, Grampa... Your comments in #25 are spot on.


38 posted on 09/06/2004 6:19:08 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Grampa Dave
Here is the AL Qaeda International at work:

"Alexander Voronin, of the Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets, listed five more junior foreign fighters been killed by Russians in Chechnya, including volunteers from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Bosnia and Algeria."

39 posted on 09/06/2004 6:25:54 PM PDT by DTA
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ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

40 posted on 09/06/2004 6:27:54 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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Well, if truth be told, both of their honor was lost when they became DEMOCS
41 posted on 09/06/2004 6:36:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Here's the short list for regime change: "The 10 Arab nationals came from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria."
42 posted on 09/06/2004 6:40:48 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Travis McGee; All
Once again the 'rats in the "old media" are trying to spike the news.

Use your email...ask your friends to keep passing this along.

43 posted on 09/06/2004 6:42:48 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma

You bet!


44 posted on 09/06/2004 6:49:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

That's all we have to counter the MSM. Our email. I ALWAYS include the original link when I do that, so the recipient can go look for himself!


45 posted on 09/06/2004 6:51:15 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma
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To: SandRat

ROFL!


46 posted on 09/06/2004 6:52:58 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: FormerACLUmember

Frankly, I don't see the media "spiking" this aspect of the story.

It's more a matter of differing perspectives between the media and the public.

Anyone with strong familiarity of Al Qaeda and Chechnya understands that the "Chechen resistance" wouldn't even exist without Al Qaeda. The Chechen resistence is Al Qaeda and vice versa.

There aren't enough "separatists" in Chechnya to fill Texas Stadium, (even today) and there wouldn't be any at all if Al Qaeda hadn't been setting up the "resistance" for over a decade.

Anyone with strong familiarity on the topic who saw two commercial aircraft explode within four minutes of each other didn't even bother to ask if Al Qaeda was involved, it was simply that obvious.

SOP for Al Qaeda is simultaneous attacks, and an inferred claim of responsibility through some invented terrorist group that no-one's ever heard of before, but that uses names obliquely related to Al Qaeda and past Al Qaeda attacks. For example, "Abu Hafs Martyr's Brigade", refers to Mohammed Atef (alias Abu Hafs), Al Qaeda's top military planner, who succeeded Banshiri and completed the planning and execution of the African Embassy bombings when Banshiri was killed in a ferry accident, and who was killed in a US bombing raid during Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.

The rising "furor" over Al Qaeda involvement in the entire series of recent attacks in Russia is of the same significance as the flap over whether ETA or Al Qaeda blew up the Spanish trains just before the election.

I'm not one to defend the media, but in this one case, they aren't exactly covering up this angle, they more seem to be just not over-emphasizing what appears to be obvious to them.

Once you accept that Al Qaeda wasn't only involved in, but was the prime planner, financier, and motivator for the entire string of recent Russian attacks, the door opens to ask much more interesting questions, such as:

1. Why did AQ target specifically Russia?

2. Why now?

3. Was the coincidence in timing between the string of attacks and the Republican National Convention simply a matter of random chance?

4. Is the string of attacks over for now?

5. If there was a correlation between the timing of the attacks and the Convention, why didn't Al Qaeda simply attack in America instead of Russia?

6. Overall, what was Al Qaeda's purpose and objective behind this string of attacks?

7. Have those objectives been met to Al Qaeda's satisfaction?

8. Is this string of attacks actually over now, or is Russia to expect still more?

Simultaneous attacks, at least in the past decade and to date, have always been Al Qaeda's handiwork. Dispensing with the entire "Was it Al Qaeda or (fill in the blank)" process allows us all to get to the meat of the implications that much faster, which then ties into the whole idea of getting inside their decision making loop.

Besides....if future events prove us wrong in attributing a future attack to Al Qaeda, what's Osama going to do about it, sue us? Declare war?

Heh.


47 posted on 09/06/2004 7:08:03 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: no dems

I've had a plan for a long time, but everyone mad enough to want in is too mad to take what appears to be an ineffective route.

The major leftist media is wide open for a class action suit.

They have demonstrably (right on the front page) lied in documented ways that have demonstrably damaged a large number of people in material ways.

There are two key elements to making it happen.

One is to convince the lawyers that there is at least the possibility of a settlement or favorable verdict, because they will gamble, but not throw away their time for no return.

Two is to convince them that a large enough number of people feel thay have been materially damaged to drive the payoff up into ten to twelve figures. With left and right roughly balanced in America, that works out to 140 million plaintiffs and only ten bucks damage each.

We, on the other hand, win whether we get a verdict or not, because regardless of the outcome, the majors will have to tighten their editorial policy in light of the increased scrutiny and the incredible expense of discovery and their defense of what could end up a multi-billion dollar settlement.

Even the Adminsitration shouldn't have objections, as their hands are clean, no claims of Republican's trying to stifle the First Amendment can be laid.

All you have to do is talk it up until an attorney with the resources to gamble a bit picks it up and runs with it, the rest will take care of itself.


48 posted on 09/06/2004 7:20:12 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: FormerACLUmember
Officials said Basayev received Saudi financial aid for at least a decade, most of it through Al Seif. They said Basayev and Al Seif employed hundreds of Saudi volunteers for suicide and other mass casualty attacks in Chechnya and other parts of Russia as well as raised funds required for the attack on the school in Beslan.

We might get lucky... If the Russians "retire" a few aging ICBMs that way. That would surely cost less than dismantling them.
49 posted on 09/06/2004 7:29:55 PM PDT by silversky (DU influence is a crime.)
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To: Bobby777
Remember one thing, Saudi oil money supposedly is linked to world media.

They are. The media was radical. After the fall of the USSR, the only radical idea left was Wahhabism. MSM offered their a$$es. The sodomites accepted. Done deal.
That beast of the beasts, Radical Islam absorbed everything evil from Nazism, communism and primitive paganism. But whores are whores. There was no choice left.
50 posted on 09/06/2004 7:41:06 PM PDT by silversky (DU influence is a crime.)
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