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Cult of Death
nytimes.com ^ | September 7, 2004 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 09/06/2004 8:50:55 PM PDT by Destro

Cult of Death

By DAVID BROOKS

Published: September 7, 2004

We've been forced to witness the massacre of innocents. In New York, Madrid, Moscow, Tel Aviv, Baghdad and Bali, we have seen thousands of people destroyed while going about the daily activities of life.

We've been forced to endure the massacre of children. Whether it's teenagers outside an Israeli disco or students in Beslan, Russia, we've seen kids singled out as special targets.

We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder.

This cult attaches itself to a political cause but parasitically strangles it. The death cult has strangled the dream of a Palestinian state. The suicide bombers have not brought peace to Palestine; they've brought reprisals. The car bombers are not pushing the U.S. out of Iraq; they're forcing us to stay longer. The death cult is now strangling the Chechen cause, and will bring not independence but blood.

But that's the idea. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.

It's about massacring people while in a state of spiritual loftiness. It's about experiencing the total freedom of barbarism - freedom even from human nature, which says, Love children, and Love life. It's about the joy of sadism and suicide.

We should be used to this pathological mass movement by now. We should be able to talk about such things. Yet when you look at the Western reaction to the Beslan massacres, you see people quick to divert their attention away from the core horror of this act, as if to say: We don't want to stare into this abyss. We don't want to acknowledge those parts of human nature that were on display in Beslan. Something here, if thought about too deeply, undermines the categories we use to live our lives, undermines our faith in the essential goodness of human beings.

Three years after Sept. 11, too many people have become experts at averting their eyes. If you look at the editorials and public pronouncements made in response to Beslan, you see that they glide over the perpetrators of this act and search for more conventional, more easily comprehensible targets for their rage.

The Boston Globe editorial, which was typical of the American journalistic response, made two quick references to the barbarity of the terrorists, but then quickly veered off with long passages condemning Putin and various Russian policy errors.

The Dutch foreign minister, Bernard Bot, speaking on behalf of the European Union, declared: "All countries in the world need to work together to prevent tragedies like this. But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened."

It wasn't a tragedy. It was a carefully planned mass murder operation. And it wasn't Russian authorities who stuffed basketball nets with explosives and shot children in the back as they tried to run away.

Whatever horrors the Russians have perpetrated upon the Chechens, whatever their ineptitude in responding to the attack, the essential nature of this act was in the act itself. It was the fact that a team of human beings could go into a school, live with hundreds of children for a few days, look them in the eyes and hear their cries, and then blow them up.

Dissertations will be written about the euphemisms the media used to describe these murderers. They were called "separatists" and "hostage-takers." Three years after Sept. 11, many are still apparently unable to talk about this evil. They still try to rationalize terror. What drives the terrorists to do this? What are they trying to achieve?

They're still victims of the delusion that Paul Berman diagnosed after Sept. 11: "It was the belief that, in the modern world, even the enemies of reason cannot be the enemies of reason. Even the unreasonable must be, in some fashion, reasonable."

This death cult has no reason and is beyond negotiation. This is what makes it so frightening. This is what causes so many to engage in a sort of mental diversion. They don't want to confront this horror. So they rush off in search of more comprehensible things to hate.

E-mail: dabrooks@nytimes.com


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: davidbrooks; islam; ossetia
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He nailed it.
1 posted on 09/06/2004 8:50:56 PM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro

Spot on, sadly.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 8:52:39 PM PDT by ladyinred (John Kerry reporting for "SPITBALL" duty!)
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To: Destro
This death cult has no reason and is beyond negotiation. This is what makes it so frightening. This is what causes so many to engage in a sort of mental diversion. They don't want to confront this horror.

Yep.
3 posted on 09/06/2004 8:55:12 PM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: Destro

YGBSM? The NYT hasn't pulled this guy to the alter of sacrifice and butchered him yet? He hits it right on the head, but I am still stunned this guy exists at NYT. I would say this act of barbarism would be a wake up call to the world, but if 9/11 wasn't I don't know what will be.


5 posted on 09/06/2004 8:55:48 PM PDT by church16 ("War is our business, and business is good...")
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To: Destro

The cult of death lives and thrives because of the ability, or disability, of some people to see evil when confronted by it. Liberals and leftists of all stripes will have much to answer for when the time comes.


6 posted on 09/06/2004 8:56:20 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: Ursa63
It's about experiencing the total freedom of barbarism - freedom even from human nature, which says, Love children, and Love life.

When I read this it reminded me of an earlier post of mine:

From: What the war in Chechnya is all about - The Chechens hate the Russians and want to be free to do whatever they want. And that's what the war in Chechnya is all about.

7 posted on 09/06/2004 9:01:24 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

God help us all.


8 posted on 09/06/2004 9:01:27 PM PDT by Humidston (COMUNIST PARTY (cpusa.org) USED TO HAVE A DIRECT LINK TO MOVEON.ORG. WHERE IS IT TODAY???)
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To: Humidston

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. God helps those who help themselves.


9 posted on 09/06/2004 9:02:32 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

The reason many people cannot look at, see, and name evil is that they are afraid or unwilling to go to the only One who can deliver them from evil.

Luke 11
1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
3 Give us day by day our daily bread.
4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.


10 posted on 09/06/2004 9:03:00 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: Destro

As long as they believe that there is a reward in blowing up infidels there will be no end to it. And as long as this country allows this to be taught in Muslim schools we will experience it.


11 posted on 09/06/2004 9:04:45 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: Destro

Just imagine if you will the Pope and all of his Bishops calling for the murder of all non-believers (men, women, and children). World forces would have the Catholic Church shut down overnight. So I ask...

WHY IN THE HELL IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO SHUT DOWN THIS MUSLIM DEATH CULT?


12 posted on 09/06/2004 9:08:03 PM PDT by anonsquared (F stands for all of the above!)
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To: Destro
We should be used to this pathological mass movement by now.

Bayonetting an 18 month old baby? Good God forbid I should ever get used to that!

Let's get to the heart of the matter. These "people" were raised by Islam. They were taught by Islam. They got their ideology from Islam. They were trained by Islam. They were funded by Islam. They were armed by Islam.

They weren't "hostage takers". They weren't "militants". They weren't "kidnappers". They were muslims, acting on behalf of Islam and at the behest of Allah, written through the "Prophet" and recorded in the Koran.

They've done no different that Islam has done for almost 1,500 years.

"Islamic Fundamentalists" is a redundant term made up by the West.

It's ALL Islam. When Beslan happened and 911 happened and Madrid happened and Bali happened and Telaviv happened, every muslim in the world thought how horrible it was, then a split second later, the thought skittered through their brains, "It's ok. They're only kafir, infidels." In much the same way, Nazi guards had the thought skitter through their brains that "It's ok. They're only Jews."

Europe should be watching what is happening VERY closely. It may well happen in France or Spain next. Islam has VERY big grudges against them.

13 posted on 09/06/2004 9:08:26 PM PDT by America's Resolve (The countdown timer to Eurabia is ticking! Tick, Tick, Tick)
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To: Destro

Islam is a wretched failure at motivating or providing any progress or comfort to all of the ignorant dipsh*ts who practice it so they get PO'd and emotionally hysterical and want to kill people they blame for the failures of their stupid religion and all the countries that harbor it. There's a real large emotional component to their hysteria that has no basis in fact.

Another reason for the failure of Islam is their abysmal treatment and disenfranchisement of women. No society can fully funcion with only half of it's members working, producing and sharing in it's problems and benefits. Until Muslim women have equal benefits and rights in their society their culture will remain backward and poor.


14 posted on 09/06/2004 9:09:03 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Destro

Islam needs to be eradicated from the earth. It's truly that simple. AIDS? Forget it. Here's a disease that takes FAR more innocent lives per year. Wipe it out........the world becomes a far better place.


It's about time the Western world realizes this and acts upon it.


15 posted on 09/06/2004 9:09:34 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Destro
It's a good article, and refreshing.

One small quibble. He wrote: "We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world."

No, it is NOT at the fringes. Not at all. It is strictly mainstream, and approved of by the normal inhabitants of Middle Eastern countries. It is supported by the Arab street.

Let me say this again. The actions are mainstream. Not on the fringe. Not exceptional.

I have just made an exceptional claim. You, gentle reader, have a right to demand some basis. Please read "Imperial Hubris" by Anonymous. You can buy it on Amazon, and it's probably in the library.

This is written by a working CIA analyst. No classified information, of course, but background on the nature of the conflict that puts a lot into perspective. There are extensive scientific polls. The Arab street is against us, and they support bin Laden.

Please, read this book.

16 posted on 09/06/2004 9:10:03 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: Destro

You must agree that this is perhaps Armaggeddon, do you not?

And in the meantime, this grandmother could and WOULD be willing to destroy one of those spawns of Satan with my bare hands. But make no mistake - there will be many innocent victims of this war. For all of us who only wish to live in peace, I pray God's strength to do what we must.


17 posted on 09/06/2004 9:10:29 PM PDT by Humidston (COMUNIST PARTY (cpusa.org) USED TO HAVE A DIRECT LINK TO MOVEON.ORG. WHERE IS IT TODAY???)
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To: Destro

Oops! I forgot to remove my tag line from a previous post but in a strange way, it fits!


18 posted on 09/06/2004 9:10:52 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: America's Resolve

Well said!


19 posted on 09/06/2004 9:12:02 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: church16

David Brooks wrote a column a while back saying that conservatives should not only support gay marriage, they should INSIST on it. So he's a mixed blessing. Some of his columns are great, and some are garbage.


20 posted on 09/06/2004 9:12:24 PM PDT by bass fiddler
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To: Destro
wait....this is a NYT article???

/pinching myself

21 posted on 09/06/2004 9:13:01 PM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: Destro

Precisely. I'm a shrink. Within psychiatry I seem to have gravitated over the years to dealing with the really sick patients, and it is among my areas of expertise to know when to quit the "negotiating" and tie someone down and give them meds. You have to size up pretty quickly who can and who cannot be reasoned with, and act accordingly, or else people get hurt. People and countries who think all life's problems can be solved by negotiation or avoidance are getting some pretty hard lessons.


22 posted on 09/06/2004 9:14:53 PM PDT by dagogo redux
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To: Destro

As on the money as it gets.


24 posted on 09/06/2004 9:15:48 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: Destro
"We don't want to stare into this abyss."

Its the Islam

The Atomic Ayatollah

25 posted on 09/06/2004 9:16:02 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Destro

Show me ONE MSM article that calls these islamic murderers what they were....

There are none.

The presstitutes are crossing a very very dangerous [literally] line.


26 posted on 09/06/2004 9:20:47 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Destro
A lot true stuff except this, a major mistake by many people:

death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world

It isn't on the fridge of the Muslim world. It is harbored, supported and spread by most of the governments in the Islamic world (and also by certain Muslim institutions in other places like in Europe and in the US). It is mainstream. This is not to say all Muslims in the Islamic world subscribe to that, though. But to say it is just a fringe is a major mistake.

27 posted on 09/06/2004 9:22:58 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Destro

Brooks is just a conservative shill.

Everybody knows it was Bush's fault.


28 posted on 09/06/2004 9:24:04 PM PDT by RBroadfoot
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To: Destro
We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world.

I don't buy that line of crap. At all!

It is way deeper than lunatic fringe level.

Why is it that the rest of the civilized world is outraged when one of these acts of cowardice occur. The free countries of this world unanimously condemn these acts...

And where is the outcry from the Muslim / Islamic world?

I know what I saw on the morning of 9/11. People dancing in the streets in joy. And they were not American.

Nice bumper sticker / sign.......

ISLAM - the Cult of Death.

LVM

29 posted on 09/06/2004 9:24:23 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (John Kerry says he has changed his mind about all those NO votes in the Senate.)
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To: Selene

In that abyss, if we are honest, we see the darkest corners of each of our own souls as well. That is why a Savior is not optional.


30 posted on 09/06/2004 9:24:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Destro
It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.

Yup - and viewing non-Muslims as those who need to be eliminated.

31 posted on 09/06/2004 9:24:37 PM PDT by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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No, it is NOT at the fringes. Not at all. It is strictly mainstream, and approved of by the normal inhabitants of Middle Eastern countries. It is supported by the Arab street.

Let me say this again. The actions are mainstream. Not on the fringe. Not exceptional.

Absolutely right on!

Wake up world Satan is alive and kicking and he must be put in his place.

32 posted on 09/06/2004 9:25:39 PM PDT by right way right
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To: right way right
Satan is alive and kicking and he must be put in his place.

Only God can do that. It's a fork in the road -- fear the Lord or else be terrified to paralysis by the spiritual forces of wickedness in the celestial realms.

33 posted on 09/06/2004 9:27:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Selene
You left out a word:

It's the Islam, STUPID!
34 posted on 09/06/2004 9:28:09 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I realize that but he does use mankind to achieve his will at times.
And I feel this is such a time.
36 posted on 09/06/2004 9:31:56 PM PDT by right way right
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One small quibble. He wrote: "We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world."

No, it is NOT at the fringes.

Exactly. Except it's not a small quibble at all, imo. It's huge. Libs and their damned tolerance would have us tolerate our own murders. If Brooks had told the truth on this point, I doubt the NYT would keep him around.

37 posted on 09/06/2004 9:31:56 PM PDT by LibWhacker (It is the black heart of Islam, not its black face, to which millions object)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

David Brooks does not use the word once


38 posted on 09/06/2004 9:32:28 PM PDT by Selene
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To: old-ager
Islamic hate in the Quran:

Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Bukhari:V4B52N50“The Prophet said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.’”

Qur’an 9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Qur’an 8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

Qur’an 8:39“So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).

DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE MUSLUM RELIGION IS PEACEFUL, THAT IS HYPE. MUSLUMS WANT TO KILL US, PERIOD!

39 posted on 09/06/2004 9:33:14 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: neutrino

Sorry, I lost the quotation italics.


40 posted on 09/06/2004 9:33:43 PM PDT by right way right
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To: dagogo redux
NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER

John Kerry has a big problem!

Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder (cautionary statement) A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

HOW MANY OF THESE TRAITS TO YOU SEE IN JOHN KERRY? I SEE ALL OF THEM. KERRY IS SICK LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WE CAN NOT ALLOW THIS NUT CASE TO GET ELECTED.

41 posted on 09/06/2004 9:34:43 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: America's Resolve

You are right!


42 posted on 09/06/2004 9:35:05 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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BTTT, read tomorrow


43 posted on 09/06/2004 9:35:54 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Burger-Eating War Monkey)
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To: Destro

The Dutch foreign minister, Bernard Bot, speaking on behalf of the European Union, declared: "All countries in the world need to work together to prevent tragedies like this.

It would have been nice if they'd spoken up like this a couple dozen years ago.


44 posted on 09/06/2004 9:36:03 PM PDT by Just Lori (Do you ever wonder if Dubya is a lurker?)
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To: Destro

He gets it.


45 posted on 09/06/2004 9:37:42 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: Humidston

If this is armageddon, it is lopsided. One - only ONE - Trident submarine could end Islam as an viable movement in the world in under 45 minutes if it comes down to it.

Islam must be contained, rolled back, and eventually defeated as was Communism.


46 posted on 09/06/2004 9:39:42 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Destro

The "death cult" is defined right there in the Koran, in the final "revelation", other than a very small one (surah 110), and therefore not superceded by anything:

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

The problem is that so few read it. And "moderate" Muslims won't answer questions about it!


47 posted on 09/06/2004 9:42:11 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Destro

"This death cult has no reason and is beyond negotiation. This is what makes it so frightening. This is what causes so many to engage in a sort of mental diversion. They don't want to confront this horror. So they rush off in search of more comprehensible things to hate."

Seems to me these words describe our toleration of abortion and those who promote it.


48 posted on 09/06/2004 9:47:23 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: Destro; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; blam; risk; Happy2BMe; Alouette; dennisw; yonif; Yehuda

I nominate this guy to the National Security Council of the United States of America. Permanently.


49 posted on 09/06/2004 9:59:52 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Destro
We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world.

Correction: The Cult-of-Death Islamofascists are the mainstream in the Muslim world. The non-violent Muslims are the fringe.

If you don't believe it, just slip into a few mosques after the doors are closed and note how quickly the "moderate Muslim" facade vanishes.

50 posted on 09/06/2004 10:01:37 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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