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Hunting the anti-Bush big trap american-italian director
Libero ^ | 10 August 2004 | Renato Farina

Posted on 09/07/2004 4:58:39 AM PDT by parnasokan

Translation from Italian of the article entitled “A caccia dell’italiano d’America regista del trappolone anti-Bush”, originally published in Libero on 10 August 2004

by Renato Farina

Hunting the anti-Bush big trap american-italian director

The international intrigue called “Nigergate”, with its plot of spies and hidden wars between intelligence and governments, goes on. We’re able to point out something new, with some confused border for now. An italian fellow living in America, well linked to our administration in the past and politically oriented to progressism, who is behind the uranium’s fake documents.

Rome’s procura is searching in this track in these days. It is trying to find Rocco Martino, the spy who bought and sold off the fake, prepared to cheat Berlusconi, Blair and Bush. But more above him there’s this enygmatic super-italian. Inquirers wonder about him, starting from last sunday Libero’s revelations as well.

Let’s recall the whole thing. George W. Bush last January 28th in 16 words gives a strong element to apologize Usa Army in Iraq. There is evidence on Saddam’s attempt to buy uranium in Africa. Bush quotes informations come from British government.

On March 7th, when the war machinery has just started, UN desclaim the papers that sentence was based on, with a terrible effect on american and european public opinion. About the whole fake documents’s plot a press campaign aiming to Mr. Bush’s impeachment and Mr. Berlusconi and Blair’s weakness has been set up. They would have artfully cheated their people to justify war.

From Sunday Times to Washington Monthly to Cbs they want to demonstrate that behind the fake Niger uranium dossier there are “italian and american people” (Sunday Times, August 1st). Charge strikes our Sismi in particular. Rocco Martino told british journalists that there was our army’s intelligence behind these moves.

Libero’s scoop, with pictures that prove a direct partecipation of french secret services to Rocco Martino’s dirty job, has forced to a (momentary…) stop who worked on impeachment.

Meanwhile, waiting for the super-italian to find, some element and ask. 1) Mark Huband wrote an article about that. Title is: “A french investigation gave rise to fake documents on Niger uranium”. It appeared on August 2nd Financial Times’ web site. It was a scoop. And Huband is very influent. Why it has never appeared on paper edition?

2) In the meantime let’s reason a little about Huband’s valutations. He writes: “This story shows how much intelligence services and mass-media are vulnerable to fakers like Rocco Martino”. We should ask ourselves, if it’s a mere fraud, how France and othereuropean and overseas nations trust to such a fellow without verify anything.

3) Why important american newspapers and tvs insist on a superknown case like the Niger one? Mark Huband, talking about Rocco Martino, writes: “He answered to a rightful ask by french government who needed informatuins on Niger. Now he answers a new ask coming from the market and feeded with the political importance the story is taking up in Usa. He’s adapting the story to that ask”. In a word: they want Bush to fall down, he gives papers and market’s demands. The point is, he’s not himself, someone moves him… 4) Two more elements: the obsessive willing to differ in time the acquiring date of Niger documents that is shifted from 2000 to 2002 with persistence; the stubborn attempt to involve italian intelligence when it is the american Senate that involves french people. Yet in the official papers, page 69 section 3, we can read: “On March 4th, 2003, the american government learned France based herself, in her first analisys on Iraq attempts to have uranium from Niger, on the same documents Usa gave to Invo (Iaea’s structure called Iraq Nuclear Verification Office) or else the famous documents improperly riferred to italian intelligence but really in french hands. Now why insists?

5) Who are the real directors? Is there a true Super-italian? Let’s try to tell it on next issue.

Nov. 2003 - Brussels: Rocco Martino -alias Giacomo- meets a high-ranking DGSE [French Secret Service] official in Belgium

Nov. 2003 - Brussels: The high-ranking DGSE [French Secret Service] official in Belgium


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: breachbirthanoxia; deadnewbieposting; incoherent; libisamentaldisease; niger; ozone; ozonealert; sandwichshyofpicnic; syphilliticdementia; takeyourmeds; uranium; zot
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1 posted on 09/07/2004 4:58:40 AM PDT by parnasokan
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To: parnasokan

I'll have an espresso.


2 posted on 09/07/2004 5:02:20 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: battlegearboat; MEG33; dubyaismypresident; 4mycountry; Pan_Yans Wife; Charlie OK; E Rocc; ...
????????

Troll alert!!

3 posted on 09/07/2004 5:08:51 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I'm also glad Zell Miller is on OUR side!)
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To: parnasokan; Americanwolf; AQGeiger; Arrowhead1952; Beaker; BenLurkin; baltodog; big'ol_freeper; ...
Okay, here's what we have:

Signed up 06 SEP;
Two threads, no replies;
BOTH threads off the same Italian rag;
The second thread is a blatant hit-piece on the C-in-C, replete with calls for GWB's impeachment.

I Smell Ozone...

4 posted on 09/07/2004 5:27:55 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: parnasokan; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; ...

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6 posted on 09/07/2004 5:34:29 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Old Sarge
Yep this is a live one. I'll fire a cruise donkey at him!


7 posted on 09/07/2004 5:35:01 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: parnasokan; King Prout; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; KangarooJacqui; ...

Yall come look at this!


8 posted on 09/07/2004 5:35:55 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: parnasokan; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; an amused spectator; ...
FOX 1!


9 posted on 09/07/2004 5:38:14 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I am not late for Zots, I have stealth Zot capability.....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

I love it! You're playing "our" song!...;)

Bush is 7 points ahead in new Poll!


10 posted on 09/07/2004 5:41:06 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Old Sarge
I concur. Make the call.


11 posted on 09/07/2004 5:41:13 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: parnasokan
Hunting the anti-Bush big trap american-italian director


12 posted on 09/07/2004 5:41:29 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: battlegearboat

Cannoli please


13 posted on 09/07/2004 5:46:40 AM PDT by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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To: parnasokan
You might feel a little pinch...ZOT!


14 posted on 09/07/2004 5:47:28 AM PDT by TBarnett34 (The Democrats: 9/10 girlie-men in a 9/11 world)
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To: MediaMole

Darn, you beat me to it! :-)


15 posted on 09/07/2004 5:48:30 AM PDT by Beaker (They're coming to take me away haha...)
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To: Slings and Arrows

New one!..Good graphic!


16 posted on 09/07/2004 5:50:44 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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17 posted on 09/07/2004 5:55:59 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Old Sarge

Think we need to hunt trolls today? There were quite a few this weekend. I had several troll pings and never got to log on from home. Bummer.

18 posted on 09/07/2004 5:58:58 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry wants to rely on 4 months in Nam, not almost 20 yrs AWOL in the Senate.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
There were quite a few this weekend. I had several troll pings and never got to log on from home. Bummer.

Yeah, the hurricane drove 'em out of their hiding places...

19 posted on 09/07/2004 6:00:45 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
Yeah, the hurricane drove 'em out of their hiding places...

I figured the trolls were all down in the dumps because of the latest polls. Double digit lead for Bush on Labor Day is bad news for the dims.

20 posted on 09/07/2004 6:03:23 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry wants to rely on 4 months in Nam, not almost 20 yrs AWOL in the Senate.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I missed a bunch when I was on a camp-out with the Home Detachment this weekend.


I'll just set myself up a Trollstand, and let then come to me!

21 posted on 09/07/2004 6:03:54 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Old Sarge
I prefer the warmth and comfort of the nearest, oh-so-innocent looking apartment complex, personally...


22 posted on 09/07/2004 6:05:18 AM PDT by TBarnett34 (The Democrats: 9/10 girlie-men in a 9/11 world)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I figured the trolls were all down in the dumps because of the latest polls. Double digit lead for Bush on Labor Day is bad news for the dims.

But..but..some RAT on FNC proclaimed that Bush only got a one-point bounce among registered voters!

23 posted on 09/07/2004 6:06:27 AM PDT by TBarnett34 (The Democrats: 9/10 girlie-men in a 9/11 world)
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To: Old Sarge
I'll just set myself up a Trollstand, and let then come to me!

Good idea. Set up the M2 and fire away.....

24 posted on 09/07/2004 6:06:59 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry wants to rely on 4 months in Nam, not almost 20 yrs AWOL in the Senate.)
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To: TBarnett34
But..but..some RAT on FNC proclaimed that Bush only got a one-point bounce among registered voters!

That is just the media trying to help F'ing kerry. The one poll I saw had Bush up by 7 among likely voters. Registered and likely voters are used too often as a lie by the media. Many registered voters never vote. Just more media spin in my books.

25 posted on 09/07/2004 6:14:33 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry wants to rely on 4 months in Nam, not almost 20 yrs AWOL in the Senate.)
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To: parnasokan
Thannnkss.....now I'm having flashbacks of my dealings with "technical support" the last few days. Throw in a few "very sorry for your problem"s and.....

-Eric

26 posted on 09/07/2004 6:14:59 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Arrowhead1952
That is just the media trying to help F'ing kerry.

Dadgummit, forgot my /sarcasm tags again! ;)

27 posted on 09/07/2004 6:16:31 AM PDT by TBarnett34 (The Democrats: 9/10 girlie-men in a 9/11 world)
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To: TBarnett34
Dadgummit, forgot my /sarcasm tags again! ;)

No need for the < /sarcasm> tag. I knew exactly what you were talking about. That same poll was used by the Austin Pravda to show how little the convention helped Bush. They are so pro kerry no one even believes them anymore, other than the libs.

28 posted on 09/07/2004 6:23:37 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry wants to rely on 4 months in Nam, not almost 20 yrs AWOL in the Senate.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Summon Kabuto!

Where's Agent 47?

Ninjas, we need Ninjas!

The BigMap shall center view and talk blue.


29 posted on 09/07/2004 6:23:44 AM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: parnasokan

30 posted on 09/07/2004 6:26:03 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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To: parnasokan

Intresting fiction why do you post this from a obscure italian paper?

And we know now that there were issues with the info on the WMD in Iraq and that we got bad intel all they way around. So what is your point in posting this?


31 posted on 09/07/2004 6:46:37 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Zell Miller for Secretary of Defense against liberals! (jeez spitballs.. now thats funny!))
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To: parnasokan
Babble Fish translator software strikes again!
32 posted on 09/07/2004 6:50:39 AM PDT by Lockbar (Worried about lead poisoning? Then stop eating the paint chips, Dummy!)
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To: Lockbar

This guy should work writing instruction sheets for Japanese airplane model kits: "AFIX GLUE LITTLE HERE".


33 posted on 09/07/2004 6:54:39 AM PDT by Lockbar (Worried about lead poisoning? Then stop eating the paint chips, Dummy!)
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To: Old Sarge

The translation is terrible, but the articles are not anti-Bush. The point is that a French spy agency knowingly passed false information through an Italian middle man (not associated with the Italian government) in order to make Bush/Blair/Berlusconi look bad when it was later revealed to be false. The French hoped that this would lead to impeachment of Bush (note that the author of the article is not calling for impeachment, though the bad translation may make it seem that way).

I was not familiar with Libero, the Italian paper that the article comes from, but I see from it's website that the editor is Vittorio Feltri, a Berlusconi supporter and one of the few American-style conservatives in the Italian media.

One of the lead editorials in today's edition asks: "Why do so many leftists and catholics have such tender understanding for Islamic terrorism, almost to the point of sympathizing with it, or at least justifying it?..."

Knowing Feltri, I would hazard a guess that Libero is not an Italian rag, but rather, one of the most reliably pro-American dailies in Europe. Another pro-American Italian paper is Il Foglio edited by Giuliano Ferrara.


34 posted on 09/07/2004 6:59:56 AM PDT by Marco Aurelio
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To: Conspiracy Guy

LOL


35 posted on 09/07/2004 7:08:46 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg
Here is my troll hunting rig!


36 posted on 09/07/2004 7:25:39 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Wow you must have a big garage! hehe


37 posted on 09/07/2004 7:26:19 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

I park it in my neighbor's front yard. He doesn't mind, much.


38 posted on 09/07/2004 7:28:00 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: Marco Aurelio
I see from it's website that the editor is Vittorio Feltri, a Berlusconi supporter and one of the few American-style conservatives in the Italian media.

Is McCain a conservative? Is Buchannan a conservative? Are FReepers who bash GWB on their single-issue advocacies conservatives?

I can take articles out of Frontpagemag.com, and twist them to bash the President - "See, See, even conservatives hate Bush, you stupid Pubbies!!!" Leftists and Catholics in the same breath, as Muslim sympathizers? Quite a reach.

Even if we assume that Libero is a conservative outlet, all I see here is a Euroweenie who come sover to this side of the tracks, to cherry-pick articles.

39 posted on 09/07/2004 7:29:30 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Arrowhead1952; MeekOneGOP
Think we need to hunt trolls today? There were quite a few this weekend. I had several troll pings and never got to log on from home. Bummer.

Yes we do need to hunt them today. Can't let think we are getting soft. Fire away.


40 posted on 09/07/2004 7:30:04 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.


41 posted on 09/07/2004 8:24:43 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

The zot comes!

42 posted on 09/07/2004 8:33:54 AM PDT by afnamvet (USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
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To: parnasokan

I'm smelling ozone, baby! Troll alert! ZOT® the schmuck.


43 posted on 09/07/2004 8:35:12 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm ( Veni Vidi Vino Visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

A series question.......Is there an expiration date for my troll hunting license?


44 posted on 09/07/2004 8:39:36 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: MeekOneGOP

Looks like the troll is still alive.


45 posted on 09/07/2004 8:45:29 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (kerry wants to rely on 4 months in Nam, not almost 20 yrs AWOL in the Senate.)
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To: parnasokan

.444 Marlin ZOT!

46 posted on 09/07/2004 8:48:26 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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To: MEG33

Thanks! It's surprisingly hard to make good-looking lightning with MS Paint, or I'd've added some.


47 posted on 09/07/2004 9:02:59 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: rrrod
A series question.......Is there an expiration date for my troll hunting license?

Mine says INDEF


48 posted on 09/07/2004 9:06:01 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: parnasokan

you ASK for it... you GOT it... ZOT!!!

Shot:George - Yield:225 Kilotons - First Thermonuclear Test

49 posted on 09/07/2004 9:06:41 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: rrrod
In SC, trolls (like home invaders) are considered vermin - no license, no tags, no bag limit, and the county even hauls the carcass away!
50 posted on 09/07/2004 9:07:31 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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