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Was John Kerry Duped?
MichNews.com ^ | September 7, 2004 | Michael Ashbury

Posted on 09/07/2004 7:47:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Writing in a February 26, 2004 National Review article, Ion Mihai Pacepa a former spy chief and a General in the former Soviet satellite of Romania indicates that the Vietnam-era antiwar movement got its spin from the Russian Kremlin.

He writes "I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the U.S. foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the U.S., and built a credibility gap between American and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. Vietnam was, he once told me, "our most significant success."

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KEYWORDS: antiwar; ionmihaipacepa; kerry; kerrycommunism; sovietunion; veterans; vietnam; vvaw; wintersoldier
****By the time John Kerry's father, Richard, published his only book, The Star-Spangled Mirror, in 1990, he should have been a mellow man. Nearly 30 years had passed since his retirement from the Foreign Service, where he'd filled mid-level posts in Washington, Berlin, and Oslo. His central issue, the cold war, had followed him into retirement with the crumbling of the Berlin Wall and rise of glasnost in Russia. When the 75-year-old Kerry wasn't working on his book, he could be found building model ships and sailing off Cape Cod. If he had any reasons for professional bitterness, they should have long since faded.

None of these facts, however, becalmed him. His book has a young man's brash, polemical tone. The Star-Spangled Mirror is a critique of moralism in America's foreign policy -- and, more than that, it is a critique of America's national character.

"Americans," he writes, "are inclined to see the world and foreign affairs in black and white." They celebrate their own form of government and denigrate all others, making them guilty of what he calls "ethnocentric accommodation -- everyone ought to be like us." As a result, America has committed the "fatal error" of "propagating democracy" and fallen prey to "the siren's song of promoting human rights," falsely assuming that our values and institutions are a good fit in the Third World. And, just as Americans exaggerate their own goodness, they exaggerate their enemies' badness. The Soviet Union wasn't nearly as imperialistic as American politicians warned, Kerry argues. "Seeing the Soviet Union as the aggressor in every instance, and the U.S. as only reacting defensively, relieves an American observer from the need to see any parallel between our use of military power in distant parts of the world, and the Soviet use of military power outside the Soviet Union," he writes. He further claims that "Third world Marxist movements were autonomous national movements" -- outside Moscow's orbit. The book culminates in a plea for a hardheaded, realist foreign policy that removes any pretense of U.S. moral superiority.

Despite its blunt arguments, The Star-Spangled Mirror received little attention. Foreign Affairs greeted it with a 90-word summation in its review section. But the work of Richard Kerry, who passed away in 2000, will soon experience posthumous reconsideration. It won't be because of the renewed relevance of his arguments (although his book does read like a contemporary brief against neoconservatism). It will be because his son is a leading candidate to run U.S. foreign policy.

According to the conventional telling of John Kerry's biography, largely told by Kerry himself, his foreign policy views were forged in the Mekong Delta. During his disillusioning four-month combat stint on a Navy Swift Boat, the limits of U.S. power were revealed to him. As Newsweek argued in a cover story last month, "Kerry's policy views, as well as his politics, were profoundly shaped by the war." But, for all the neatness this narrative provides, it overlooks an entire chapter in Kerry's intellectual history: his childhood. In fact, Kerry's foreign policy worldview, characterized by a steadfast belief in international institutions and a suspicion of U.S. hard power, had fallen into place long before he ever enlisted. As Kerry's biographer, the historian Douglas Brinkley, told me, "So much of his foreign policy worldview comes straight from Richard Kerry."

Richard Kerry's father, a Czech Jew, fled Europe. The son, by contrast, embraced it. As a law student at Harvard in the late '30s, he read continental philosophers like Kierkegaard and histories about Bismarck and Metternich; he traveled to France, where he took sculpture classes and met his wife. Hoping to parlay his love of Europe into a career, he chose international law as his law school specialty. After World War II, which he spent in the Army Air Corps testing new airplanes at high altitudes, he moved his family to Washington to take a spot in the Department of the Navy's Office of General Counsel, hoping that his proximity to the State Department might help him land a job there.

Two years into his Washington stint, Kerry's relocation paid off. The State Department's Bureau of United Nations Affairs hired him to help work through the thicket created by America's adherence to a new set of postwar international agreements. According to Brinkley, the cosmopolitan Kerry was a true believer in the United Nations and the postwar promise of global government.

But, as much as he believed in the United Nations, it was not his prime passion. A devoted Europeanist, Kerry was more preoccupied with the devastation of Europe and the monumental task of reconstructing it -- a romantic project that enticed a generation of young diplomats, including George Kennan and George Ball. The appeal of the task wasn't just the economic and physical rebuilding of the continent. Kerry and others like him viewed themselves as building a new political order for the continent, a new method for arranging international affairs that would consign war to the dustbin of history. In the early '50s, Kerry became an enthusiast for NATO and the nascent efforts at creating a unified Europe.

In 1954, Kerry received an assignment that put him at ground zero of the cold war. He moved to Berlin to advise former Harvard President James B. Conant, whom Dwight D. Eisenhower had charged with overseeing the rehabilitation of West Germany. Once again, Kerry's job consigned him primarily to lawyerly work. His chief task was to devise answers to the questions created by Berlin's confused status. Martha Mautner, a political officer who served with Kerry in Germany, told me, "There were so many questions about the status of Berlin that the lawyers had to handle. There were Four Powers [the United States, Britain, France, and the Soviet Union] running the city. What was its relationship to the Federal Republic?" But Kerry's interests extended far beyond these matters. During his tenure in Europe, he attended conferences in Paris, London, and The Hague, where he discussed with other mid-level diplomats the future of the transatlantic alliance and the possibilities of a new continental order. According to Brinkley, through these conferences, Kerry established relationships with a group of like-minded government officials, including the famed French planning commissioner (and intellectual architect of the European Union) Jean Monnet.

These conferences reinforced Kerry's belief that the preservation of the Atlantic alliance and the creation of a new Europe should be the overriding priorities of U.S. foreign policy. But the reality of U.S. policy was far different. For most of the Eisenhower administration, America's prime objective was containing communism. And, unlike the administration he served, Kerry believed that cooperation and diplomacy, rather than militarism, should resolve these tensions. In The Star-Spangled Mirror, he condemns the United States for "lecturing" European allies about the horrors of communism and accuses it of "bad manners" and "spoiled behavior." He writes, "At times we expected the allies unquestioningly to follow our leads; sometimes we failed to consult them in advance before reversing policies; at other times we ignored their requests."

Even at the time, Kerry wasn't quiet about his disagreement with the hard-line anti-communists. Although he had initially viewed Secretary of State John Foster Dulles as a kindred spirit and cultivated a relationship with him, Kerry felt uncomfortable with his rhetoric about "godless communism." (In his book, Kerry spends several pages arguing against Dulles's "intensely moralistic outlook.") According to Brinkley, Kerry bluntly told Dulles the shortcomings of his increasingly hawkish approach, undermining their relationship in the process. This was typical behavior for Kerry, who had a growing reputation for outspokenness. John Kerry's friend and former aide Jonathan Winer says, "[Richard Kerry] was a dissident in a time of conformity."

For all his impolitic instincts, Kerry's undeniable competence kept propelling his career forward. Following his posting in Berlin, he served as top aide to Georgia Democrat Walter George, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. And, in 1958, he took what would be his highest posting in the Foreign Service, as Oslo's chief political officer, where he played a vital role in opening Norway to American spies and weapons. But his competence could get him only so far -- which is to say, it couldn't overcome his maverick reputation and win him a coveted ambassadorship. By the Kennedy administration, Brinkley says, Kerry sensed he had hit a ceiling in the Foreign Service. Kerry told his family, "They seem not to listen to what I have to say, so I'm going to quit." Brinkley adds, "He saw his role as becoming a protester, criticizing the government from the outside in lectures and his book."

Richard Kerry, whose own father committed suicide, was not a very effusive parent. When his twelve-year-old son John lay quarantined with scarlet fever at his Swiss boarding school, Richard Kerry didn't make the trip from Berlin to visit him. But there was at least one subject that fostered easy conversation between the two: foreign policy. "It allowed them to break through an emotional wall," says Brinkley. "They talked about foreign policy the way most fathers and sons talk about football." Well into his Senate career, John Kerry would phone his father to ask his opinion about international issues ranging from arms control to Central America. Watching the conversations, Winer says, "I saw two people talking about policy very seriously with unexpressed affection."

From the start, Richard Kerry turned his oldest son into his foreign policy protégé. As Newsweek's Evan Thomas has written, "The Kerry dinner table was a nightly foreign-policy seminar. While other boys were eating TV dinners in front of the tube, [John] Kerry was discussing George Kennan's doctrine of containment." His father introduced the adolescent boy to such luminaries as Monnet and West German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer. Later, when he was at Yale, John Kerry traded letters with Clementine Churchill, Winston's wife.

As early as prep school, John Kerry showed signs that he shared his father's suspicions about America's cold war foreign policy. In a debate at St. Paul's in the late '50s, he argued that the United States should establish relations with Red China. During his junior year at Yale, he won a speech prize for an oration warning, "It is the specter of Western Imperialism that causes more fear among Africans and Asians than communism, and thus it is self-defeating." And, when he was tapped to deliver a graduation speech in 1966, he used the occasion to condemn U.S. involvement in Vietnam, intoning, "What was an excess of isolationism has become an excess of interventionism."

If Richard and John Kerry were not in perfect political sync, it was because the father, in an inversion of the usual dynamic, was more radical than the son. John Kerry, for instance, had grown enthusiastic about John F. Kennedy and his robust, anti-communist foreign policy. Indeed, it was his fervor for Kennedy's "bear any burden" call to service that largely inspired Kerry to join the Navy. Richard Kerry, by contrast, was more skeptical about New Frontier idealism. In a 1996 interview with The Boston Globe, he groused, "[John's] attitude was gung ho: had to show the flag. He was quite immature in that direction." When John Kerry came back from Vietnam, his father pushed him to be more outspoken in his opposition to the war. "When Kerry refused to speak out against the government [while in uniform], suddenly his father felt like he was being a wimp," says Brinkley. "[So he] encouraged his son to take off the uniform and to become a critic."

John Kerry, of course, did exactly this, first in Vietnam Veterans Against the War and eventually in the U.S. Senate. From the moment he arrived in Washington, Kerry promised that "issues of war and peace" would remain his passion. And, from the start, this meant that he would criticize Ronald Reagan's war against communism, especially when it was fought through proxies in the jungles of Central America. In 1985, he traveled to Nicaragua to meet with the Sandanista government, telling The Washington Post, "I see an enormous haughtiness in the United States trying to tell [the Sandinistas] what to do." Soon after his return, he pressured Congress into investigating the administration's illegal funding of the Contra rebels, opening a trail that culminated in the exposure of the arms-for-hostages deal with Iran. And, a few years later, in the late '80s, he repeated this success, launching an investigation that revealed that another of the administration's favorite anti-communists, the Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, had been deeply enmeshed in drug-trafficking. Kerry was also skeptical enough of U.S. power that he voted against authorizing a popular intervention -- the Gulf war -- and opposed a 1995 resolution that would have allowed the arming of Bosnians.

There are differences, to be sure, between Richard and John Kerry. Over the course of his political career, John Kerry has occasionally endorsed the use of force, as in the cases of Panama and Kosovo, and he has always found a rhetorical place for morality in his foreign policy pronouncements. But, more often than not, even as John Kerry stumps for president, the similarities shine through. Last month, for example, Kerry charged that the administration's "high-handed treatment of our European allies, on everything from Iraq to the Kyoto climate-change treaty, has strained relations nearly to the breaking point." It should be no surprise to hear John Kerry worry about European allies and to strike such liberal internationalist notes. These ideas aren't just deeply felt; they're in his blood. ***

Franklin Foer is associate editor at TNR.

Kerry's World: Father Knows Best CBS News ^ | March 3, 2004 | Franklin Foer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1089641/posts

1 posted on 09/07/2004 7:47:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Quid pro quo.

Kerry is currently duping nearly half of the U.S. electorate. :-p


2 posted on 09/07/2004 7:48:53 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Duped = Useful idiot. Yep, John F'ing Useful Idiot Kerry was and continues to be a DUPED DOPE big-time. I can hear Kerry right now saying, I will be a smarter DUPED DOPE.
3 posted on 09/07/2004 7:51:25 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: Fedora

ping


4 posted on 09/07/2004 7:52:26 AM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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To: All
Ronald Reagan, a super hero, had a nemisis, an evil counter part in the man of John Kerry.

Ronald Reagan has left us much and John Kerry will do his best to remove all the good Reagan accomplished.

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?

5 posted on 09/07/2004 7:52:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

former spy chief and a General in the former Soviet satellite of Romania indicates that the Vietnam-era antiwar movement got its spin from the Russian Kremlin.
>p> We knew this back in 1965. John skerry was NOT duped. He KNEW exactly who he was working for.


6 posted on 09/07/2004 7:53:32 AM PDT by marty60
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To: hflynn
John Kerry was not duped. The FBI files indicate that leaders of the VVAW made several trips to Moscow, Paris and Hanoi for indoctrination in communist propaganda.
7 posted on 09/07/2004 7:55:58 AM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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To: bolobaby

BUmp


8 posted on 09/07/2004 7:56:43 AM PDT by mattdono ([John Edwards before going on stage 20 minutes after President] Hold muh' senses)
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To: hflynn

Why do I have more respect for a Soviet KGB agent who spent years undermining the U.S. than I do for John Kerry? At least he was loyal to his country.


9 posted on 09/07/2004 7:56:53 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He writes "I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation.

The Soviet Union feed talking points to Kerry bump.

10 posted on 09/07/2004 7:58:43 AM PDT by demlosers (57 days left until the Kerry campaign is put out of its misery.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1209190/posts

FBI files


11 posted on 09/07/2004 8:00:10 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did not know that about Kerry's dad. Like father like son, I suppose. So the communist movement in the Third World was in no way connected to the USSR, just like Saddam is in no way connected to Islamic terrorism, they just happen to share the common goal of turning the US into a smoking crater.


12 posted on 09/07/2004 8:00:35 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

WOW!! Girl this is political dynomite.

I get so frustrated b/c we get all this terrific "news" here on Free Republic but how do we get the word to the average, honest, God-fearing, true-blue American voter who does not hear this on SeeBS or CNN (Communist News Network)?


13 posted on 09/07/2004 8:02:42 AM PDT by no dems (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.... (Psalm 122:6))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yup. He's daddy's boy.

It's both interesting and irritating that John Kerry's true approach to international issues can only be fully understood with an understanding of the views of his father. It's irritating because any attempt to bring out the father's views will be painted as 'going after the family,' but once the father's views are known, it becomes apparent that John Kerry views the best thing for America to be curtailing her power throughout the world, limiting her strength, and deferrence to the 'international community.' Roughly, Kerry views the best thing for America to be disarming her and making her a ward of the rest of the world-- which is his greatest disqualification for the office he seeks.

But it does very nicely explain his entire legislative record.

14 posted on 09/07/2004 8:04:48 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For SKERRY to have been duped as noted above . . .

he would have been more accurately described as being

DUPED-DUPED.

He was evidently born duped.

. . . or durn near it.


15 posted on 09/07/2004 8:05:15 AM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: bolobaby
Kerry is currently duping nearly half of the U.S. electorate.

The athiests, welfare mothers, condom throwers, Hollywood drunks, abortion enthusiasts, screeching feminists, and all the rest of the losers, weirdos and parasites who make up the base of the Democrat Party are never "duped." They know exactly what they want - - "free stuff", paid for by the tax-paying, traditional American families who make up the Republican base.

16 posted on 09/07/2004 8:05:19 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So Kerry was/is the Manchurian Candidate.


17 posted on 09/07/2004 8:05:49 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: MEG33

bump


18 posted on 09/07/2004 8:06:23 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: this_ol_patriot

It's awfully hard not to draw a parallel.


19 posted on 09/07/2004 8:06:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: hflynn

You and I are on the same wave length this morning. I was just getting ready to post and say that this article should be entitled: "It's Easy to Dupe a Dope".


20 posted on 09/07/2004 8:07:32 AM PDT by no dems (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.... (Psalm 122:6))
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To: Quix

Well, actually he wasn't duped before he was duped. But, did you know that John Kerry was in Viet Nam?


21 posted on 09/07/2004 8:08:46 AM PDT by no dems (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.... (Psalm 122:6))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"John Kerry is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life"


22 posted on 09/07/2004 8:08:59 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is alluded to in Unfit For Command.


23 posted on 09/07/2004 8:09:28 AM PDT by Helms
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To: stockpirate

Question - Is there any firm evidence indicating JK going to Iron Curtain countries (a-la Bill Clinton)?


24 posted on 09/07/2004 8:09:51 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: bolobaby
Kerry is currently duping nearly half of the U.S. electorate. :-p

Well not quite half. And the Hollywood-Harvard axis is partner to Kerry in duping a portion of the American electorate and that axis believes that Kerry will betray the American electorate before he would betray them. Peaceniks believe that Kerry will pull out troops from Iraq and that his militaristic bluster is just "doing the post 9-11 dance" to get elected.

25 posted on 09/07/2004 8:09:52 AM PDT by Poincare
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Now we know, being a traitor runs in the family. Communist sympathizers all the way. It's probably why Kerry supports muslim theocracy's as well, because they are more like communists.


26 posted on 09/07/2004 8:10:41 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Duped?

NO! John Kerry was an active hater of the freedom of the democratic republic that is called the United States of America.

To suggest that he was "duped" is giving him "innoncence" in his crimes against the American military who were fighting for their own lives against the friends of john-john.


27 posted on 09/07/2004 8:11:45 AM PDT by steplock
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To: no dems

Not sure what you mean--what he was in Nam

. . . besides a vain glorious idiot endangering his shipmates and disgracing his country.

I mean, besides being a selfish arrogant idiot in Nam,

what was he?


28 posted on 09/07/2004 8:12:23 AM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Interesting.


29 posted on 09/07/2004 8:14:26 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Tin foil time.

This is what Kruschhev was talking about. They used the fledgling anti-war movement to indoctrinate future leaders of America. Clinton the Bubba didn't take too well, he was too busy nailing the bubushkas. Hillawitch was too wild and unpredictable although she has her uses. Kerry was ideal, a Kennedy Klone without the booze at a time when Kennedy was the American ideal, at least in Soviet minds.

They never will get to see it though, they never counted on Old Mr. Reagan, a Hollywood cowboy to bust up their act and now a Texas cowboy is going to do the same.

30 posted on 09/07/2004 8:16:48 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: bolobaby
I wonder how many people Kerry has told he was 'really' a double agent for the CIA
pretending to be an anti war vet and informing on the really bad ones...

Of course guys like Kerry often suckered the younger vets in..with BS promises or telling bogus tales of what he and VVAW stood for...and who the guys in really were...

I heard tales of Navy SEALS and Green Berets joining up with VVAW....glad to hear these were nearly 100% bogus "Kerrytales"...designed to sucker the other guys in...

And once Kerry suckered guys in....then he informed on the guys he suckered in the first place

Kerry is a low life....and demonstrative of the colloquialism ...'you cant possibly pour enough perfume on that pig to make it smell better'..

John F Kerry never met an American serviceman he wouldn't sell out to someone for money or other considerations...

John Kerry is NOT an American ...regardless of what his passport might say the contrary...

IMO

31 posted on 09/07/2004 8:19:19 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It appears the nut does not fall far from the tree.


32 posted on 09/07/2004 8:22:30 AM PDT by UpInArms (Benedict Arnold was a war hero too.)
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To: this_ol_patriot

When someone as anti-American as Kerry runs for president something is way out of kilter.


33 posted on 09/07/2004 8:22:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: VRWCTexan

Not that I have found yet. But several members of the leadership went to Moscow, Hanoi and Paris.


34 posted on 09/07/2004 8:23:40 AM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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To: this_ol_patriot

Welp, brainwashing would explain the droning voice and memory that's seems to have blacked out everthing post-1969.


35 posted on 09/07/2004 8:25:48 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Was he duped? "I'm John Kerry...reporting for dupy."


36 posted on 09/07/2004 8:27:19 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

37 posted on 09/07/2004 8:32:10 AM PDT by tapatio (Society is always taken by surprise at any new example of common sense.)
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To: tapatio
John Kerry was not duped.He is an opportunist who used the teachings of his father,when he thought he could gain the most from them!

." When John Kerry came back from Vietnam, his father pushed him to be more outspoken in his opposition to the war. "When Kerry refused to speak out against the government [while in uniform], suddenly his father felt like he was being a wimp," says Brinkley. "[So he] encouraged his son to take off the uniform and to become a critic." John Kerry, of course, did exactly this, first in Vietnam Veterans Against the War and eventually in the U.S. Senate.

38 posted on 09/07/2004 8:35:37 AM PDT by tapatio (Society is always taken by surprise at any new example of common sense.)
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To: this_ol_patriot

BUMP - YOU'VE CONNECTED THE DOTS. Please advance to the next level.


39 posted on 09/07/2004 8:38:59 AM PDT by granite (IT IS UP TO US NOW.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Kerry was not a useful idiot. He was a collaborationist. Useful idiots don't compare Ho Chi Minh to George Washington.


40 posted on 09/07/2004 9:02:06 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Poincare
"Peaceniks believe that Kerry will pull out troops from Iraq and that his militaristic bluster is just "doing the post 9-11 dance" to get elected."

They take duplicty for granted as one of their "rights", just as the Islamofascists can rationalize anything in thier "holy" causes.

Just let conservatives be suspected of using any of their tactics though...nothing throws them into a spoiled-brat-hissy-fit faster than defense of the double standard they visciously hold to.

41 posted on 09/07/2004 9:09:10 AM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (Misunderestimated Again Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Both articles ignore Kerry's antiwar statements before he went into the Navy, not counting the months spent in the delayed enlistment program, when one is technically in the Navy reserve as an E-1. Kerry was definitely his father's son on that. I suspect his desire to look like a later day JF Kennedy had more to do with his desire for political office than any conversation to the "bear any burden" school of thought. A school obviously not shared by JF Kennedy's two younger brothers, most especially the surviving one.


42 posted on 09/07/2004 10:17:55 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Duped and DOPED........I believe he's hitting Ter-ay-za's meds!


43 posted on 09/07/2004 10:39:26 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (They want to do to your children what they did to the Russian children!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From Secrets of the Central Committee, by Vladimir Bukovskiy:

Let us recall the period: in the late 70’s and early 80’s, European streets were teeming with "peace" demonstrators protesting NATO’s plans to site medium-range nuclear missiles in Europe. At the center of the campaign were European socialists and social democrats, many of them holding government office in their own countries or positions in the main opposition parties...

...All in all, Moscow gave away $400 million over twenty years, and that does not include other, indirect forms of financing (also clear in the documents). In that period the French Communist party received, by my calculations, no less than $44 million worth of "international solidarity," the CPUSA $35 million...

...NOT ALL the assistance Moscow provided to foreign Communists can be measured in dollars. Here before me is a handwritten request from Gus Hall, general secretary of the CPUSA, on behalf of Comrade James Jackson, a leading Marxist theoretician of the American party very keen to be awarded an honorary doctorate in the field of history. Surely this should not be too hard to arrange with Moscow State University? Why, of course not, comrades! As the accompanying memo from the International Department notes, not only would this serve "to raise [Jackson’s] authority in democratic Negro circles," it would also "make it possible for him to secure a teaching post at New York University, where the party has lately been working actively." Looking for a job? It paid to have friends in the right places...

...After all, Western politicians and academics, Western intellectuals and churchmen, Western businessman and journalists encouraged relations with the Soviet bloc-that is to say, with cut-throats and the puppets of cut-throats. Some of them signed agreements for "cultural exchanges," "scientific cooperation," and "human contacts," knowing full well that the KGB would be choosing the candidates for such contacts, and that they were in fact buttressing its power over society. Others apologized for Soviet actions around the globe, or denied Soviet complicity in those actions, often by impugning anyone who tried to resist or thwart them. Many understood what was going on but, in thrall to the golden dream of socialism, remained silent, sacrificing conscience, reason, innocent people, and entire countries in the process.


44 posted on 09/07/2004 10:57:26 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: no dems

LOL.

While he was waking up excruciatingly slowly to having been duped all his life,

he was duped at least a dozen more times.


45 posted on 09/07/2004 1:01:35 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: tapatio

46 posted on 09/07/2004 2:23:26 PM PDT by Helms
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To: bolobaby

"ethnocentric accommodation -- everyone ought to be like us." = American Cultural Imperialism is what they call it today.


47 posted on 09/07/2004 2:26:03 PM PDT by Helms
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To: okie01
Writing in a February 26, 2004 National Review article, Ion Mihai Pacepa a former spy chief and a General in the former Soviet satellite of Romania indicates that the Vietnam-era antiwar movement got its spin from the Russian Kremlin.

He writes "I produced the very same vitriol Kerry repeated to the U.S. Congress almost word for word and planted it in leftist movements throughout Europe. KGB chairman Yuri Andropov managed our anti-Vietnam War operation. He often bragged about having damaged the U.S. foreign-policy consensus, poisoned domestic debate in the U.S., and built a credibility gap between American and European public opinion through our disinformation operations. Vietnam was, he once told me, "our most significant success."

Ping....

48 posted on 09/07/2004 2:27:14 PM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
'inspired Kerry to join the Navy'

b&lLSHI& HE WAS REFUSED DEFERMENT AND ENLISTED IN THE NAVY.

49 posted on 09/07/2004 2:31:40 PM PDT by Helms
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