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Beslan Changed Russia...and the world.
National Review Online ^ | September 07, 2004 | Barbara Lerner

Posted on 09/07/2004 9:35:10 AM PDT by xsysmgr

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To: dfwgator

Nothing short of turning Mecca into a sea of molten silicon is likely to get meaningful attention.


61 posted on 09/07/2004 11:55:10 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: Rutles4Ever

I would hardly compare the Red Kremlin politicos that screwed up Afghanistan to the likes of Ivan the Terrible, Michael Romanov, Peter the Great or even Josef Stalin. Unlike the Soviet-Afghan War, in this war, a Bush led American would be Moscow's side.


62 posted on 09/07/2004 11:56:59 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: ken5050
Just spoke to my daughter in CO.....they were away at a family affair for the entire weekend. Nothing on their news or even their local websites about the atrocities committed. Only news mentions that there was an anti terror march in Russia.

The media would prefer this go away sooner rather than later...at the expense of more lives.

63 posted on 09/07/2004 12:09:36 PM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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To: xsysmgr

We cured the twin political psychoses of fascism and Japanese militarism with mass shock therapy. In Germany it consisted of England and the U.S. bombing much of the country to dust, while the Russians subjected the east to an utterly brutal conquest on the ground. The psychotherapy for Japan consisted of fire bombing most of their significant cities to dust followed by the final super-therapy of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

After the foregoing intensive psychotherapy the Germans and Japanese came to see the light, got rehabilitated, and returned to civilization. Absent the therapy, the disease would have continued and killed or enslaved everybody else in the world.

It looks like the Mideast and the Arabs might need a bit of the same. A superb way to start would be by cluster bombing and strafing every public demonstration supporting Islamofascism and every funeral for any of their subhuman thugs. Heavy doses of therapy should also be administered whenever they use mosques, schools, or hospitals as cover. Hiroshima therapy should be applied to Iranian nuclear facilities. It would be counterproductive, in administering the aforesaid therapy, to concern ourselves with collateral damage.

If we, the Russians, the Israelis, and the Brits do the foregoing, there's a good chance that the less irrational people in the Islamic world will reject the Islamofascists so as to avoid receiving the benefits of more therapy.


64 posted on 09/07/2004 12:09:46 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: tomahawk

And tens of thousands of Americans will die as a result.


65 posted on 09/07/2004 12:10:31 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: ken5050

Mean to say, there is nothing specific in their news TODAY. What was covered over the weekend I don't know.


66 posted on 09/07/2004 12:11:01 PM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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To: xsysmgr

The appeasers will be wringing their hands.....but reason must prevail. We must make sure a clear unambiguous message is sent to islamic fundamentalist terrorists.


67 posted on 09/07/2004 12:14:34 PM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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To: ken5050

Regarding Russia reaching out the Israel. One news report stated that Russian military units will train with Israel in military exercises. These exercises will be an attempt to deal with any future hostage situations; and maybe also precision strikes against terrorists.


68 posted on 09/07/2004 12:16:52 PM PDT by all4one ("..a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents" Sir W. Churchill)
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To: jpsb
" I think Russia, before Sept1, didn't really understand this. Now she does."

Russia has been trying to make the case that Chechen rebels have been trained and funded and are in effect no different than Al-Quaida for years now. It has been the US state department which has insisted that Chechen rebels were not terrorists and that Russia must negotiate a settlement with them.
69 posted on 09/07/2004 12:21:00 PM PDT by monday
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To: wtc911
Sounds like we cannot expect much from the Russian Army. I think they still can contribute: intelligence (they should still have a lot of the apparatus from the Soviet days) and a brutal determination that comes from living in that part of the world.

They didn't win pretty in WW2, but they did win. In this fight they may be willing to dirty their hands in ways that we wouldn't consider. Historically, Russians have demonstrated a capability to do some very ugly things and absorb some losses in war that would offend the moral sense of the USA.
70 posted on 09/07/2004 12:21:20 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Flying Circus

As I posted earlier, this is not the Russia of old, which was really the USSR. They no longer have the eastern state hordes of cannon fodder to throw into the fray. Nor do they have a Stalinist apparatus in place to command sacrifice out of fear. Their military is ruptured in body and soul. To date they have not been able to crush the chechens, who are at their very border. That said, they are still Russians and hopefully that still counts for something.


71 posted on 09/07/2004 1:11:26 PM PDT by wtc911 (I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
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To: Little Ray
The Dome of the Rock is in Jerusalem. You mean the Kabbah - that cube-like place in the middle of Mecca.

           =                     

Ka'aba at Makkah                                                            Borg cube

 

72 posted on 09/07/2004 1:23:02 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Preachin'; Destro; MarMema
It goes on and on. Terrorism on the world scale is not new. The Russians, French and Germans have chosen to ignore it, and not come to our aid.

ANd WE didn't go to Russia's aid when they were fighting these scum earlier. WE attacked the Serbs when they were fighting these scum (or rather clinttooon did, but it was our country). Let's not recriminate but move forward and fight together.
73 posted on 09/07/2004 1:24:58 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: wtc911
Their military is ruptured in body and soul. To date they have not been able to crush the chechens, who are at their very border.

But they still have thousands of megatons of thermonuclear weapons at their disposal. Another incident like Beslan, and Grozny may become a radioactive crater.

74 posted on 09/07/2004 1:25:05 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: cengel3

Oh yeah, that'll solve everything. /sarc


75 posted on 09/07/2004 1:29:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: HitmanNY
bttt
Well said.
76 posted on 09/07/2004 1:31:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: xsysmgr

This article is nuts. Putin and the FSB are in it.


77 posted on 09/07/2004 1:57:17 PM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: xsysmgr

save for later bump


78 posted on 09/07/2004 1:58:34 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: Cronos

Good post, #73.


79 posted on 09/07/2004 2:10:39 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Truth666
Yes I know they are trying to shut him (Milosevic) up with appointed lawyers, but he is appealing to pick his own lawyers rather than have them picked by the prosecution. The judges IMO is part of the cabal, but I bet Milosevic will get his way. They know the day will come when Russia will do a payback, if they haven't started already.

Either way, the prosecution didn't make or even have a case. And they had an obsene 2 yrs. The defense can rest, but for the sake of justice, if the world will ever have some, Milosevic should have his day in court.

W mentioned the Balkans once in his convention speech. It disturbed me then but I'll have to get the transcript and check the context.

If we can talk all the time about Vietnam, why not once in awhile talk about the trashing of US leaning, for centuries, Yugoslavia. After all, it was Clinton's 'big' war and why were we supporting terrorist instead of taking them out. Was Holbrook, Madeline and socks Sandy being 'bribed'?

80 posted on 09/07/2004 2:15:23 PM PDT by duckln
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