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To: Calpernia

ADM Stockdale

I saw an interview of ADM Stockdale by Kerry taped sometime ago. It was nominally about Stockdale's experiences in captivity, but ADM Stockdale turned the tables on Kerry in a big way.

At one point, Kerry asked him to describe what kind of people his NVA interrogators/torturers were personally. ADM Stockdale responded "They were just your typical upwardly mobile young bureaucrats you see in any country. You know the type." or words or intent to that effect. Kerry smiled sheepishly knowing Stockdale had just nailed him to the wall.

I would later discover that Stockdale had attempted suicide after one noted beating in a never-ending series of particularly vicious beatings in which his leg was repeatedly broken, rather than break for them emotionally. The NVA backed off from further such interrogations almost immediately, realizing that his death would be a public relations nightmare for them as he was already too well known worldwide for his death to be casually ignored, and that the story would get out.

Best, Bud Burrell.

McCain: Hanoi Hilton Guards Taunted POWs With Kerry's Testimony

These days, former Vietnam War POW Sen. John McCain has nothing but praise for his fellow Vietnam veteran Sen. John Kerry, the Democrats' current presidential front-runner.
But after he was released from the Hanoi Hilton in 1973, McCain publicly complained that testimony by Kerry and others before J. William Fulbright's Senate Foreign Relations Committee was "the most effective propaganda [my North Vietnamese captors] had to use against us."
"They used Senator Fulbright a great deal," McCain wrote in the May 14, 1973, issue of U.S. News & World Report. While he was languishing in a North Vietnamese prison cell, Kerry was telling the Fulbright committee that U.S. soldiers were committing war crimes in Vietnam as a matter...

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SEN McCain's second wife

Kerry was part of the Senate Hearings on the POW/MIA issues in the late '80's or early '90's, to which SEN McCain's second wife was called to testify. Kerry heard her tell that committee in this testimony and related interviews that she had had strangers show up at her home unannounced with phony Government credentials, and after being invited into her home, they started to try to interrogate her about what she was doing for sex while her husband was a POW. When she would then follow up with the supposed agency these people had showed credentials for, the relevant agency would deny any such agents. She saw credentials from the FBI, CIA, DEA , National League of Families, and more, some real and some not.

I saw McCain's wife's testimony personally (as I did Kerry's interview of Stockdale) on C-Span or the equivalent. I am sure both interviews are archived somewhere. McCain's wife really made these guys squirm and be unnaturally humble.

Best, Bud Burrell.

39 posted on 09/07/2004 3:02:38 PM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Calpernia

The real John Kerry, lets not forget

note the last paragraph! FROM FORMER POW, MIKE BENGE

John Kerry, Another Traitor...

As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned - and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.

Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam ??? an odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity. Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.

Foreign Service officer
former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)

Ex-Korean prisoner of war (POW) Steve Kiba was at the Senate Select Committee for POW/MIAs and he spoke of being captured and held by the Red Chinese. He knows first hand what the communist and Sen. John Kerry are capable of.

Danny "Greasy" Belcher
Infantry Sgt. Vietnam 68-69
"D" Troop 7th Sqdn 1st Air Cav.
Executive Director, Task Force Omega of KY Inc.

From: Steve Kiba


Is there any way I can get a copy of the article "No Comrade of Ours" by Rick Erickson? Much of it was hidden by the front cover of John "Commucrat" Kerry's propaganda trash. I think this article needs to be widely circulated continuously until after Red Vietnam's favorite candidate loses in the primaries or until after he loses in November. Everyone needs to see how he felt about America, America's military, our MIAs and POWs, and freedom after he returned from Vietnam. Everyone needs to know that his cowardly and traitorous actions, just as those of his fellow commie comrades (Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, the Hollywood commie crowd, and all the other hippie, anti-USA war protesters) prolonged the war by giving the communists the will and determination to fight on. All Americans need to know that the cowardly and treasonous actions of Fonda, Kerry, and the rest of their filthy, anti-American commie friends vastly increased the number of patriotic young military personnel who died in their attempt to halt the spread of communism and to preserve and protect the freedoms of all of us (including the freedoms of these raunchy, anti-American communists); and by prolonging the war, these "self-righteous" scum of the human race caused our unfortunate MIAs and POWs to endure a much longer period of pain, agony, and misery at the hands of their cruel, sadistic, inhumane, godless communist torturers. Only God knows how many failed to survive because of Hanoi Jane, commie propagandist Kerry, and other traitors to the American way of life.
All Americans need to know how Senator "Commucrat" Kerry controlled and manipulated the laughable "so-called" Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. What a waste of time and money that was! With the exception of Senator Bob Smith, all the other "elitist" clowns had already made up their feeble closed minds that there were no live fellow countrymen left behind. Greasy, they didn't (and still don't) give a tinker's damn about those poor, unfortunate souls who were not repatriated after our past wars. These poor souls were not just left behind; they were betrayed, abandoned, and forgotten. I have come to the realization that U. S. Government MIA/POW Policy was, is, and always has been first to betray them, then abandon them, then continue to deny that there are any live MIAs and POWs, and lastly to forget them. What a disgraceful, dishonorable, despicable, disgusting way to treat the people whom you send off to fight your enemies for you! The elected officials are just as guilty as the appointed officials in their implementation of this unbelievable policy, and they must share equal blame with the cruel, sadistic foreign bastards who inflicted and still inflict unbelievably excruciating pain and misery on the MIAs and POWs. John "Commucrat" Kerry, John "Republicomm" McCain, our first Red Chinese President of America Bill Jefferson (Jefferson is probably turning over in his grave.) Clinton, and the rest of the liberal, socialist, communist members of Senate and House of Representatives deliberately and callously pounded the last nails into the coffins of our still missing (many live) and un-accounted for MIAs and POWs when they normalized relations with Red Vietnam. Bury them alive and bury them deep. These cowardly representatives of a proud, caring American people figure that our MIAs and POWs will die off and that we the proud, caring Americans are just too busy and unconcerned to become involved in any organized, concerted effort to find out the truth. My fellow Americans to date they seem to right: there just to damned few of us who care enough to put forth the effort on their behalf. I beseech you and beg you: let us not alllow the U. S. Government, the U. S. Senate, and the U. S. House of Representatives to continue their cowardly, dishonorable MIA/POW policy of betray, abandon, deny, and forget them! Remember what John "Commucrat" Kerry and the other cowardly commie-lovers inflicted upon our troops in Vietnam and the needless years of suffering added to our MIAs and POWs.

We must continue to do all humanly possible to bring them home if they are alive and to account for them otherwise.

God bless you all. God bless and protect America and our brave military personnel wherever they might be. God bless, protect, and bring home all of our missing fellow countrymen.

Steve E. Kiba, author
The Flag -- My Story: Kidnapped by Red China
"Not ALL MIAs/POWs came home!"

42 posted on 09/07/2004 3:26:30 PM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Calpernia

Bio on Vice Admiral James B. Stockdale

49 posted on 09/07/2004 4:08:36 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Pray the vote!
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