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Hurricane Ivan Upgraded to Category 5 Hurricane
NOAA National Hurricane Center ^ | September 8, 2004 | NOAA National Hurricane Center

Posted on 09/08/2004 9:06:23 AM PDT by bd476

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HURRICANE IVAN ADVISORY NUMBER 25

NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL

11 AM AST WED SEP 08 2004

...Dangerous Hurricane Ivan heading for the central Caribbean Sea...

A hurricane warning remains in effect for Aruba...Bonaire...and Curacao.

A hurricane watch and a Tropical Storm Warning remain in effect for The Guarjira Peninsula of Columbia...and for the entire Northern Coast of Venezuela.

At 11 AM AST...1500z...the Government of Haiti has issued a Hurricane Watch for the entire Southwest peninsula of Haiti from the border of the Dominican Republic Westward...including Port Au Prince.

A Tropical Storm Watch remains in effect for the Southwestern coast of the Dominican Republic from Santo Domingo Westward to Pedernales.

Interests in Central and Western Caribbean Sea should closely monitor the progress of dangerous Hurricane Ivan.

At 11 AM AST...1500z...the eye of Hurricane Ivan was located near Latitude 12.7 North...Longitude 66.2 West or about 145 miles...235 Km...East-Northeast of Bonaire and about 795 miles...1280 km... EAST-Southeast of Kingston Jamaica.

Ivan is moving toward the West-Northwest near 16 mph...26 km/hr. This motion is expected to continue during the next 24 hours. On this track...the center of Ivan should move North of Aruba... Bonaire...and Curacao later today. However...any deviation to the left of the forecast track could bring the center close to those islands.

Ivan is an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale with maximum sustained winds near 140 MPH...220 KM/HR...with higher gusts. Some fluctuations in intensity are expected during the next 2 hours.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 70 miles...110 KM… from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 160 miles...260 KM.

Estimated minimum central pressure is 955 MB...28.20 inches.

Storm surge flooding of 3 to 5 feet above normal tide levels... along with large and dangerous battering waves...can be expected near the center of ivan in the hurricane warning area.

Rainfall Amounts of 5 to 7 inches...possibly causing flash floods and mud slides...can be expected along the path of Ivan.

Repeating the 11 AM AST position...12.7 N... 66.2 W. Movement toward...West-Northwest near 16 mph. Maximum sustained winds...140 MPH. Minimum central pressure... 955 MB.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor Products issued by your local weather office.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at 2 pm AST followed by the next complete advisory at 5 pm AST.

Forecaster Avila

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Continuing discussion from: Bulletin Hurricane Ivan Advisory 11 Ivan Becomes the 5th Hurricane of the 2004 Season
1 posted on 09/08/2004 9:06:29 AM PDT by bd476
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To: alancarp; Ax; beckybea; Brytani; BurbankKarl; CajunConservative; capt. norm; CFC__VRWC; cksharks; ..

Hurricane Ivan New Thread Wednesday 8 September 2004 Ping: with continuing updates and discussion.


2 posted on 09/08/2004 9:08:51 AM PDT by bd476
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Hurricane Ivan Tracking Page
3 posted on 09/08/2004 9:11:21 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: bd476

Thank you for this thread!

My Demented Sis is in Tampa. She's managed to keep power and DSL up through the entire Charlie/Frances ordeal. She reports that the services and responders there are at their limit. But worse, is the food situation. All the stores are now emptied of perishables; they all spoiled and are trash.


4 posted on 09/08/2004 9:12:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: bd476; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; abner; Aeronaut; ...

BOLO ALERT: Crazy Ivan!!!


5 posted on 09/08/2004 9:13:24 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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NOAA's Current GOES Floater Infrared Image:


6 posted on 09/08/2004 9:13:32 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
Ouch!

The current path points it toward the Panhandle or, at least, way too close.

Useless trivia: Panama City has experienced a hurricane (either direct hit or close enough for heavy damage) every ten years. We had Eloise in 1975, Elena and Kate in 1985 and Erin and Opal in 1995.

Hate to see a year that ends with a "5" coming up.

7 posted on 09/08/2004 9:13:36 AM PDT by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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To: bd476

8 posted on 09/08/2004 9:14:25 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin

WHICH WAY?!?!?!?!?


WHICH WAY IS HE TURNING DAMMIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


9 posted on 09/08/2004 9:15:12 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: bd476

My folks are taking a short vacation away from Central Florida to come to Illinois for a week - leaving from Orlando tomorrow AM. I'm glad - the weather here has been beautiful all summer. But I'll keep an eye on these threads - thanks for starting today's FR watch on Ivan.


10 posted on 09/08/2004 9:15:54 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: bd476

My folks are taking a short vacation away from Central Florida to come to Illinois for a week - leaving from Orlando tomorrow AM. I'm glad - the weather here has been beautiful all summer. But I'll keep an eye on these threads - thanks for starting today's FR watch on Ivan.


11 posted on 09/08/2004 9:15:57 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: Howlin

Good Grief...........is anyone else tired of hurricane season? (and I don't even live in Florida)


12 posted on 09/08/2004 9:16:21 AM PDT by Gabz (HURRAY!!!!!!!! School started yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: hobbes1

See #8, please.


13 posted on 09/08/2004 9:16:43 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Howlin

If it follows that track, the Tampa area could get a tremendous storm surge even if it avoids a direct hit.


14 posted on 09/08/2004 9:17:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: bd476
NOAA's Current GOES Floater Water Vapor Image:


15 posted on 09/08/2004 9:17:21 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Gabz

Relax; it's only 56 more days.......LOL.


16 posted on 09/08/2004 9:17:52 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: hobbes1

Yucatan. That's where I'd place my money.


17 posted on 09/08/2004 9:18:08 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Howlin

Maybe Florida can make like a hole in the water?


18 posted on 09/08/2004 9:18:29 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Howlin

LOL!!!!!!!!!! You nearly got me on that one!


19 posted on 09/08/2004 9:19:20 AM PDT by Gabz (HURRAY!!!!!!!! School started yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: hobbes1

In the last few hours it's turned slightly more N of W....


20 posted on 09/08/2004 9:19:28 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: hobbes1
The upper two images from NOAA's GOES show that Ivan is now impacting Venezuela and Columbia. They are getting much wind and rain from Ivan.

Now if the Northern Coast of Venezuela and Columbia would just slow Ivan down and take away some of the pressure, that would be great.

21 posted on 09/08/2004 9:20:17 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Old Sarge

Real shame there isn't an open season on gator... Fries up real well and tastes a lot like chicken.


22 posted on 09/08/2004 9:20:41 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (.)
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To: kinghorse

This storm is so far south that it might miss the USA completely.


23 posted on 09/08/2004 9:22:13 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: bd476; kinghorse; Strategerist; Howlin

Guess No one else has Mind Melded that passage from Hunt for Red October...lol

Seaman Jones : Conn, sonar! Crazy Ivan!
Capt. Bart Mancuso : All stop! Quick quiet!
[the ships engines are shut down completely]
Beaumont : What's goin' on?
Seaman Jones : Russian captains sometime turn suddenly to see if anyone's behind them. We call it "Crazy Ivan." The only thing you can do is go dead. Shut everything down and make like a hole in the water.
Beaumont : So what's the catch?
Seaman Jones : The catch is, a boat this big doesn't exactly stop on a dime... and if we're too close, we'll drift right into the back of him.


24 posted on 09/08/2004 9:22:21 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Old Sarge

It's great to hear that your sister got through relatively unscathed, but it is not good news hearing about the food situation. Sounds like she's living in a City right on the edge with not a lot of give room there.


25 posted on 09/08/2004 9:24:19 AM PDT by bd476
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To: hobbes1
Punch here
26 posted on 09/08/2004 9:24:28 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: bd476
My husband spoke to people in Barbados and St. Vincent this morning. There is cleanup to be done, but they are thankful. We have not been able to reach anyone from our office in Grenada. It seems to have lost all communication. From looking at the satellite pictures, it may be a while til we hear something.
27 posted on 09/08/2004 9:24:52 AM PDT by twin2
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To: hobbes1

I have seen that movie so many times I can practically act it out.


28 posted on 09/08/2004 9:25:13 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: bd476

I'm still cleaning debris from Frances & now have to watch for Ivan. I'm on the west coast north of St. Pete's in Citrus Co. Looks like Ivan is heading for this side of the state again if it makes another right turn. Jeez, I would rather have a blizzard in Mich then 3 Hurricanes.


29 posted on 09/08/2004 9:25:56 AM PDT by jrcats
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To: hobbes1

The models are in pretty close agreement until Ivan gets to Jamaica. After that nobody knows. If it crosses Cuba on the eastern side of the island it will impact the storm more than if it crosses the flatter western end of the island.


30 posted on 09/08/2004 9:27:02 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: hobbes1

ROFL!!!!!!!!!


31 posted on 09/08/2004 9:27:08 AM PDT by Gabz (HURRAY!!!!!!!! School started yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: bd476
"...it is not good news hearing about the food situation. Sounds like she's living in a City right on the edge with not a lot of give room there."

You ain't kiddin. And, if gas doesn't get replenished around the state soon it's gonna be real hard for people to evacuate if this one bears down on us.

We need some prayers, folks.

32 posted on 09/08/2004 9:27:44 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Reject Materialism)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Howlin
Great that your parents are getting out of Dodge. There is probably going to be another mass exodus up the freeways if Ivan continues on this maybe/if course. Burned once twice shy is what most Floridians must be feeling now.

Howlin came up with the idea for a fresh new thread. Thanks Howlin!

33 posted on 09/08/2004 9:28:35 AM PDT by bd476
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To: keysguy

Over here now.


34 posted on 09/08/2004 9:31:06 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: bd476

The power's coming back on, and the utilities are beginning to come back online. Another problem is damage to peoples' homes. Houses that got smashed by Charley, weren't repaired in time for Frances. And with Ivan possibly inbound, the potential for total loss with many buildings is real.


35 posted on 09/08/2004 9:31:18 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Howlin

Which models were the most accurate in predicting Frances' path?


36 posted on 09/08/2004 9:32:22 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: capt. norm
This is exactly what I suspected several days ago. It seems like it could be a cyclical thing with these hurricanes.

Not that it brings any comfort but it is a little better than thinking of these many major hurricanes continuing yearly as a trend for the future.

37 posted on 09/08/2004 9:32:45 AM PDT by bd476
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From http://stormcarib.com/reports/2004/grenada.shtml

"Hi,

I have been in cellular contact with close friends in Grenada since last
night and they have said that the destruction is tantamount to Hiroshima.
There is not a tree standing. My friend witnessed homes being submerged and
thousands of trees and galvanize roofs flying through the air. The island is
devastated and I am not sure if everyone is aware of the severity due to
networks, electricity and phone lines being out of service. Grenada needs
relief workers and Aid as soon as possible.

Gabrielle"


It's much much worse than the major media articles indicated, due to lack of communication.


38 posted on 09/08/2004 9:33:00 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Howlin
Relax; it's only 56 more days.......LOL

Wrong! It's more like 83 days.

Hurricane season ends at midnight November 30th, and we've had them here in Panama City as late as 3 days before Thanksgiving (1985 Kate).

39 posted on 09/08/2004 9:33:19 AM PDT by capt. norm (Rap is to music what the Etch-A-Sketch is to art.)
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Ahem... if you're going to call out "Crazy Ivan", Howlin, could you at LEAST have the decvency to post a screen capture from Hunt for Red October when you do it?
40 posted on 09/08/2004 9:34:22 AM PDT by hchutch (I only eat dolphin-safe veal.)
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To: bd476
Did you see this thread?

High Storm Cycle is Here to Stay

41 posted on 09/08/2004 9:34:36 AM PDT by Gabz (HURRAY!!!!!!!! School started yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: hchutch
Just for you
42 posted on 09/08/2004 9:39:01 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: hchutch

CONN, SONAR, CRAZY IVAN!

All stop, quick quiet.


43 posted on 09/08/2004 9:39:11 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Judging from the current tracking charts, Florida is going to get hit no matter where exactly this storm goes.

Florida Freeper

I'm compiling a list of FReepers in Florida for use in the upcoming elections.
If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.


44 posted on 09/08/2004 9:40:42 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Fries up real well and tastes a lot like chicken.

Hmmmmmm.... that's what they all say! Doesn't EVerything taste like chicken if you deepfry it? ;-)

45 posted on 09/08/2004 9:40:50 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: bd476
Thanx for putting me on your ping list. This thread is very helpful in keeping track of things.
46 posted on 09/08/2004 9:41:26 AM PDT by JellyJam (Headline of the year: "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists Are Muslims!")
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To: hobbes1
One ping only Vasily.

One of my Top Ten Favorite Books and one of my Top Ten Favorite Movies. Sean Connery is one of my Top 10 Favorite Actors.

Crazy Ivan - turning leftrightrightleft

47 posted on 09/08/2004 9:42:07 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Poohbah
My Personal Favorite
48 posted on 09/08/2004 9:44:27 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: bd476

BMP


49 posted on 09/08/2004 9:46:46 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: capt. norm

Oh, gosh.....I thought it was the first of November!

YIKES.

What's our average now, once every two or three weeks?


50 posted on 09/08/2004 9:47:46 AM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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