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Gay group refuses to endorse Bush
The AGE - (New York Times) ^ | 9/9/04 | David Kirkpatrick

Posted on 09/08/2004 3:56:08 PM PDT by granite

The board of the Log Cabin Republicans, the largest group for gay men and lesbians in the party, has voted overwhelmingly against endorsing President George Bush for re-election because of his support for a proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

The decision ends six months of soul-searching as the group, which endorsed Mr Bush in 2000 and Bob Dole in 1996, has wrestled with its divided loyalties.

Although the group was immediately critical when the President announced his support for the amendment in February, it refrained from ruling out an endorsement. Its effort to balance loyalty to the party with opposition to a major item on the Republican agenda has made it the target of criticism from both supporters and opponents of the proposed amendment.

As delegates at the Republican national convention prepared to adopt a platform condemning gay parents, for example, a handful of gay rights activists protested outside a Log Cabin party on August 29 in New York. In a meeting on Tuesday night in Washington, the group's board voted 22-2 to withhold its endorsement, a spokesman said.

In a statement afterwards, Log Cabin Republicans executive director Patrick Guerriero cited exit polls showing that more than a million gay men and lesbians voted for Mr Bush in 2000. That included 45,000 in the pivotal state of Florida, which Mr Bush carried by about 500 votes.

"Some will accuse us of being disloyal," Mr Guerriero said. "It was actually the White House who was disloyal" to those gay voters.

However, he said the group "proudly supported the President's firm leadership in the war on terror."

The group also denounced what it called "flip-flops" by Democratic candidate John Kerry, referring to statements that he opposed same-sex marriage and favoured state constitutional amendments to ban it.

Log Cabin chairman William Brownson said the organisation planned to "shift our financial and political resources to defeating the radical right", partly by supporting sympathetic Republican candidates for Congress.

The group's first advertising campaign, which began last week, quoted former president Ronald Reagan's statement that he hoped he "appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears".


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigwhoop; gay; gayvote; logcabin; logcabinrepublicans; republicans; turncoats
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1 posted on 09/08/2004 3:56:09 PM PDT by granite
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To: granite

Well, here's another good reason to vote for W.


2 posted on 09/08/2004 3:57:02 PM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: granite

Darn.


3 posted on 09/08/2004 3:57:05 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: granite
Also discussed here.
4 posted on 09/08/2004 3:57:50 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: granite

Excuse my ignorance, but did the Log Cabin GOP have gay marriage as a part of their platform in previous elections?

And do they this year?


5 posted on 09/08/2004 3:57:57 PM PDT by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: granite

The Sun is bright.


6 posted on 09/08/2004 3:58:47 PM PDT by demlosers (55 days left until the Kerry campaign is put out of its misery.)
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To: granite
I'll never understand people who insist on voting with their sex organs.
7 posted on 09/08/2004 3:59:07 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: granite

Another pathetic cry for attention.


8 posted on 09/08/2004 3:59:20 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: granite
The decision ends six months of soul-searching as the group, which endorsed Mr Bush in 2000 and Bob Dole in 1996, has wrestled with its divided loyalties.

Oh, please. "Soul-searching" ... "divided loyalties" ... Perverts looking to gain as much political clout as possible, weighing their options. Who needs 'em?

9 posted on 09/08/2004 3:59:32 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: granite

Interesting timing. These idiots were supposed to decide over the weekend whether they were going to endorse Bush. However, they waited until the day after the AZ Primary election to announce it. Why? Could it be that once married, now openly gay Rep. Jim Kolbe (AZ), who serves on the Log Cabin Republicans National Advisory Board, called in a favor and told them to delay their announcement until a day after his election. Kolbe successfully fended off a strong primary challenger, conservative Randy Graf.


10 posted on 09/08/2004 4:00:19 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: granite
The board of the Log Cabin Republicans, the largest group for gay men and lesbians in the party, has voted overwhelmingly against endorsing President George Bush for re-election because of his support for a proposed constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Good. All the more reason to vote for Bush.

Hell, why don't the Log Cabin "Republicans" make a real dash for irrelevance and just endorse Gavin Newsom? That pantywaist is the only politician depraved enough to openly embrace gay marriage.

11 posted on 09/08/2004 4:00:25 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Log Cabin Republicans AREN'T.)
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To: granite

12 posted on 09/08/2004 4:01:03 PM PDT by traumer
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To: granite

Oh well, such is life for single organ voters.


13 posted on 09/08/2004 4:01:04 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (GIVE'M HELL, ZELL!)
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To: granite

It's All About The O.


14 posted on 09/08/2004 4:01:11 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: granite

Oh no! Now the GOP will never carry CA or NY.


15 posted on 09/08/2004 4:01:54 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: granite

The good news just keeps coming for Bush.


16 posted on 09/08/2004 4:01:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: sitetest

I don't think thats a biggie.


17 posted on 09/08/2004 4:02:06 PM PDT by X-Ecutioner
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To: granite

"Gay group refuses to endorse Bush"

-In other news, however, Melencholy group endorses Kerry.


18 posted on 09/08/2004 4:02:46 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: martin_fierro

no more bush


19 posted on 09/08/2004 4:02:56 PM PDT by granite (IT IS UP TO US NOW.)
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To: granite
Forget the WOT. Forget lower taxes. Forget who's a proven liar. Forget who claims to have committed atrocities. Forget everything else, but let's focus on on own little personal agendas.

By Nov., Bush will have such a great lead it won't matter if they voted for Elton John.
20 posted on 09/08/2004 4:05:42 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: granite

Well, I kinda understand what these people are saying.

Heck just the other day, I was thinking about poking one of the neighbors sheep and for a brief moment, I was having positive thoughts about kerry. LOL


21 posted on 09/08/2004 4:05:53 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: granite

Is Bush still going to seek another term now? /sarc


22 posted on 09/08/2004 4:07:12 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: granite
I think it's too bad. I am against a constitutional amendment involving marriage laws. Gay conservatives should be a part of our party. They should be a sharp contrast to the ridiculous liberal gay agenda, forced on us all over TV and forced on our kids in schools. I wish the party had opened the tent a bit more, because conservative gays, the ones I know, are hardworking and very dedicated to many of the ideals we hold dear. They do not want the liberal gay agenda; they only want no discrimination. Sounds fair to me.

See Tammy Bruce, Al Rantel. We should be proud to have them out there on our side.

23 posted on 09/08/2004 4:07:14 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: granite

If that's the case you need to stop calling yourselves Log Cabin Republicans. I can't wait to see if Kerry wins and these LC Repubs get blown to hell by some terrorist all because they couldn't be legally bonded in matrimony, Hey message to LC the "plumbin don't fit"


25 posted on 09/08/2004 4:08:09 PM PDT by AlexPKeaton04 (Moore and Kerry Please move to France)
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To: wolf24
Losing an important block... :o)
26 posted on 09/08/2004 4:08:29 PM PDT by traumer
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To: wolf24
Losing an important block... :o)
27 posted on 09/08/2004 4:08:40 PM PDT by traumer
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To: granite

This ought to be worth an additional 2% point bump for The Prez.


28 posted on 09/08/2004 4:12:20 PM PDT by no dems (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.... (Psalm 122:6))
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To: granite

So, the screamers are throwing a hussy fit. It figures.


29 posted on 09/08/2004 4:12:34 PM PDT by Pittsburg Phil
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To: granite

Log Cabin chairman William Brownson said the organisation planned to "shift our financial and political resources to defeating the radical right", partly by supporting sympathetic Republican candidates for Congress.

>>>

This should be easy! Find an "Elect Amb. Alan Keyes to the U.S. Senate from Illinois 2004" thread, seek out your RINO heathen buddies, and together you can take'em on!

We're radical alright...RAD MAN! Activist queers, communists and muhammadans...what a world!


30 posted on 09/08/2004 4:12:47 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: granite

Did they stomp their foot when they refused?

D


31 posted on 09/08/2004 4:13:39 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Pittsburg Phil

All 12,000 of them, 300 having paid Log Ramming dues in the last year...wow.


32 posted on 09/08/2004 4:14:05 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Yaelle
" because conservative gays, the ones I know, are hardworking and very dedicated to many of the ideals we hold dear. They do not want the liberal gay agenda; they only want no discrimination. Sounds fair to me."

These Log Cabin clowns want gay marriage. That means they want to change the defining characteristics of the historical institution. They are not interested in conservatism, or simply the end of unjustified discrimination.

33 posted on 09/08/2004 4:14:23 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: AlexPKeaton04

The Muhammadans want to do some significantly naughty and mean things to queers...one in Europe is talking about throwing them off of buildings and stoning the ones that live.

So, you have the RATS that will use Muhammadan Terrorists in their campaign strategery and will get us all killed or placed in a Taliban society OR you have the GOP that will accept you, but not change civilization for your little pecker-driven, carpet-munching definitions of life.


35 posted on 09/08/2004 4:17:52 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: spunkets

Log Cabin Drama Queens


36 posted on 09/08/2004 4:19:34 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: spunkets

Narcissistic self-indulgence is the only thing they want. I don't care what they do, as long as they don't expect others to accept it.


37 posted on 09/08/2004 4:20:08 PM PDT by BobS
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To: granite

So what....


38 posted on 09/08/2004 4:20:11 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: granite

Let them become Log Cabin Democraps.


39 posted on 09/08/2004 4:20:53 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Activist queers, communists and Mohammedans...what a world!

Sodom and Gomorrah must have been similar.

40 posted on 09/08/2004 4:22:25 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: traumer
I figured that was Al-Queerda in Germany. Instead it's Belgium.
41 posted on 09/08/2004 4:24:06 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: spunkets
I used to be against gay marriage because of the word marriage.

However, we all have to get "married" legally at some local government building. The religious ceremony is completely separate.

I don't have a problem with gays having equal secular status to their relationships. I only wish that most gays would do it. Many liberal gays would not really like marriage when they realize the commitment: you are responsible for his DEBTS and all!

It took a while for me to come around to being pro gay legal marriage but I think it would be best for society. There will always be gays and they deserve what we have in terms of rights.

42 posted on 09/08/2004 4:27:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: granite
AIDS is the most preventable disease on the planet.

So what goes?

Stupid is as stupid does.

43 posted on 09/08/2004 4:28:45 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (3 Purple Hearts? No blood? No Way!!)
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To: granite

Well now......your thread title explains it all now, doesn't it? What self respecting gay man would......endorse Bush?


44 posted on 09/08/2004 4:29:44 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: granite
"However, he said the group "proudly supported the President's firm leadership in the war on terror."

For a bunch of whiney homos they at least got that right.

In the end most will vote who will protect them, and it aint Kerry.

45 posted on 09/08/2004 4:31:49 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: granite

Good riddance and goodbye.


46 posted on 09/08/2004 4:33:26 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Cream rises to the top, but in a secular culture, so does the slime.)
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To: No Blue States
"Gay group refuses to endorse Bush"

Then they have nothing to say at FR here as far as I am concerned, be gone.

47 posted on 09/08/2004 4:36:57 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: granite

Who cares if a bunch of homos find their sexual preference more important than the national security of the country. I guess being able to marry a partner of the same sex takes priority over the thousands of people who were murdered by terrorists on 9/11, or the continued threats to our nation. Maybe they'll get the message when the terrorists put a bomb up their ass. But knowing them, they probably won't even notice the difference.


48 posted on 09/08/2004 4:43:15 PM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: granite

They can go f**k themselves. Well, never mind, they already do.


49 posted on 09/08/2004 4:43:30 PM PDT by gedeon3
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To: gedeon3

Exactly, and the media will make it sound like it's a big hit to the Bush campaign, HAHAHA STFU MSM.


50 posted on 09/08/2004 4:44:52 PM PDT by AlexPKeaton04 (Moore and Kerry Please move to France)
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