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New Defense Against RPGs
UDLP Website | 9/08/2004 | UDLP

Posted on 09/08/2004 4:27:29 PM PDT by muleskinner

United Defense Defeats RPGs with Close-In Counter Measure Active Protection System On Sept. 8, United Defense Industries announced that its Close-In Counter Measure (CICM) active protection system successfully intercepted and destroyed incoming Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPGs) during end-to-end testing at the U.S. Army’s Redstone Technical Test Center at Redstone Arsenal, Ala.

In successful end-to-end tests, the United Defense CICM system detected launched RPGs, tracked incoming rockets, launched its countermeasures and defeated RPGs before they reached the protected system.

"This successful counter-RPG mission was accomplished in less than nine months through targeted research and development efforts and rapid prototyping capabilities by United Defense and its teammates to quickly develop a successful, affordable near-term counter to RPGs," said Carl Sullinger, CICM Program Manager. "We expect to offer the CICM system to the U.S. military as a force protection measure for our fighting forces in combat while providing a fully compatible path with active defense suites for future systems."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aps; banglist; iaaps; miltech; rpg
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To: snippy_about_it
Cannoneer gone sick or worse ?!?!?!?!?

Anyone know how this works ? Is it a metal storm phalanx thang that'll trash troops in the line of fire etc ??

Stay safe !

41 posted on 09/08/2004 6:10:00 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Stormcrow
Quietly manufacture 100,000 RPG rounds that are DESIGNED to detonate when the launcher's trigger is pulled. Then equally quietly put them up for sale in the Kosovo-Syria-Pakistan-Iran-Saudi arms markets.

This was done in the Cold War.

42 posted on 09/08/2004 6:18:00 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Squantos
Cannoneer has gone off to work in Afghanistan. Bequeathed the ping list to me a couple weeks ago on the Tuesday Foxhole Treadhead thread, his other armor ping list he left for Darksheare.

He should have internet access by 9/18 or soon after and perhaps he will get a post in on FR somewhere. :-)

We pray for his safety.
43 posted on 09/08/2004 6:21:49 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: muleskinner

bump


44 posted on 09/08/2004 6:24:24 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Mikey_1962

The Russians and the US gave them out like they were candy back during the Cold War. They have a long shelf life, require little maintainance, and are cheap as hell to buy on the Black Market. In short: The Knuckleheads aren't going to run out anytime soon.


45 posted on 09/08/2004 6:27:24 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Mikey_1962
How much does an RPG cost????? anybody known ?

A dinar a dozen.

46 posted on 09/08/2004 6:28:40 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (GIVE'M HELL, ZELL!)
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To: muleskinner

Stories like this I put on the banglist. Consider it done. Great Post!


47 posted on 09/08/2004 6:35:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: snippy_about_it
Second that.......DOD or Contractor ?........or maybe none of my business........:o)

If he checks in tell him I wish him well.......Stay safe !

48 posted on 09/08/2004 6:51:56 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: fourdeuce82d; Travis McGee; Darksheare

BANG, are you guys on the treadhead list? I didn't notice your names on the original list typed up by Cannoneer no. 4. I must have been added after he typed up the original.


49 posted on 09/08/2004 6:57:24 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: snippy_about_it; Darksheare; Squantos
FWIW tomorrow morning I am setting in on an armor lessons learned in Iraq seminar. I will post some information out of it sometime in the next few days. The briefing is unclassified, but I will not post anything that could be used by the rag heads.
50 posted on 09/08/2004 7:13:13 PM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: csmusaret
RPG-7 Penetration Armor= 330 mm

Muzzle Velocity = 140(m/s)

mass= 4.4lb

ergo 4.4 x v = 2020 ftlbs.

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water cannon:

velocity at muzzle =120 m/sec

min/max agent per impulse shot = 3.0 / 12.0 liter

12 liter mass = 25lbs

25 lbs. x v ft/sec = 9840 ft/lb.

at 9840 ft/lb for water cannon vs 2020 ft/lb for rpg's, with sound beamforming targeting, could deflect or stop rpg's?


http://www.tenix.com/Main.asp?ID=467
51 posted on 09/08/2004 7:14:26 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (could computer-targeted water cannon deflect rpg's?)
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To: neverdem; fourdeuce82d; Travis McGee; archy; Cannoneer No. 4; Ragtime Cowgirl; snippy_about_it

Here's the treadhead list at last revision that I had:
archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; colorado tanker; The Shrew; SLB; Darksheare; BCR #226; IDontLikeToPayTaxes; Imacatfish; Tailback; DCBryan1; Eaker; Archangelsk; gatorbait; river rat; alfa6; Lee'sGhost; Dionysius; BlueLancer; Frohickey; leadpenny; skepsel; Proud Legions; ExSoldier; King Prout; Professional Engineer;alfa6 ; bluelancer; cannoneer No.4 ; An Old Man; DMZFrank; hookman;in the Arena;GregB;Bethbg79;MoJo2001;Radix

I know there are more supposed to be on it.
Who has the up to date list so far?


52 posted on 09/08/2004 7:14:38 PM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: SLB
Understand........ I'm just wondering if this uses projectiles in a claymore fashion then I'd hate for it to miss me and the APC behind me "detected" it before I could duck twice per se...... or was near an APC conducting overwatch mission for door kickers and alley apes.....

Stay safe !

53 posted on 09/08/2004 7:20:01 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Darksheare

I believe snippy_about_it has it. I noticed my name on 2nd glance.


54 posted on 09/08/2004 7:24:27 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Squantos

Yep, there's something about projectiles fired automatically, while I might be in front of them! Still, good to see the R&D.


55 posted on 09/08/2004 10:33:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Stormcrow
That was done with hand grenades in Viet Nam. Worked about four times then just turned into booby traps.
56 posted on 09/08/2004 10:34:45 PM PDT by dts32041 (bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay)
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To: Travis McGee
Agree but I'm one whos glass is neither half full or half empty........just too big a glass when it comes to R&D, new and improved promises etc.

Stay safe !

57 posted on 09/08/2004 10:40:00 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: SLB

Thanks. Give me a ping when you post.


58 posted on 09/08/2004 10:43:10 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Darksheare

Let's compare Darksheare. Cannoneer had a treadhead and an armor I think. I'll freepmail you what he gave me.


59 posted on 09/08/2004 10:44:51 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Mikey_1962

I want one.


60 posted on 09/08/2004 10:46:56 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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