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Documents Suggest Special Treatment for Bush in Guard [Buckhead post 47]
NYTIMES ^ | 09/09/04 | KATHARINE Q. SEELYE and RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 09/08/2004 8:10:56 PM PDT by Pikamax

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To: Pikamax
With President Bush's connections....he could have gotten any assignment in any branch of service he wanted...

So if he were trying to 'avoid' going to war

Why the heck would he want to fly fighter aircraft

He could have gotten a job in 'Special Services' in Greece had he wanted to use his connections.....

One of my neighbors used her special connection to a ranking family to get her new hubby
who joined the Air force rather than risk getting drafted into the Army Infantry...a nice cushy stateside job for his entire hitch...

GW Bush had almost as much pull as my neighbors friends....almost...but the Republicans were in power and he could have gotten out of his service obligations very easily had he wanted to..

Instead he opted to fly jets....

credit is due ...where credit is due...
41 posted on 09/08/2004 8:46:01 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Two Heads Are Better Than One...Unless They're On The Same Person -Andy Sipowicz)
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To: Pikamax
It is almost so common as to be a waste of time to criticize the New York Times for bigoted and dishonest reporting. Other media outlets make it clear that the sources used by the Times are dishonest.

Won't do any good, however, to point out to Mr. Okrent that the newspaper he works for is dishonest.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore."

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42 posted on 09/08/2004 8:46:57 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: Pikamax
paging karl rove. paging karl rove.

we tried to warn them. time to active project "there-ain't-enough-botox-in-the-world-to-keep-us- from-flattening-your-sorry-a$$".

that is all.

43 posted on 09/08/2004 8:48:59 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Texasforever

I think they were his private papers?


44 posted on 09/08/2004 8:53:07 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: TBBT

The MSM are whores for Kerry, whores for the Democrats, and whores for the Jihadists.

Through their lies and distortions, our country's continued existence is now in doubt.


45 posted on 09/08/2004 8:55:32 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Howlin
I think they were his private papers?

So why write them? If he was REALLY trying to CYA then he would have sent his concerns up the chain otherwise he would be in deep Sh%T if he had to explain later why he didn't let someone else know about a supposed violation of a direct order. Nope I don't believe these are legit documents since CBS will not say who they got them from so the originals can be examined.

46 posted on 09/08/2004 8:58:44 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: Howlin

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

This should be pursued aggressively.


47 posted on 09/08/2004 8:59:43 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: gswilder

Seems to well orchestrated. Of course it was orchestrated. The same night that 60 Minutes runs a hit piece of lies and the same day lies are printed in the Boston Globe and NY Slimes. Hmmmm. It does not take Sherlock to figure out that Carville, the same guy who holds his post at CNN, is behind all this with the Kerry campaign. Its only going to get worse.


48 posted on 09/08/2004 9:01:24 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Buckhead
Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts....I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old. This should be pursued aggressively.

You're absolutely correct. I just looked at the files, and they don't pass the smell test. Most typewritten items from that era would have been in Courier font. And why would these items be copies, anyway, if these memos were for the guy's own personal file? They wouldn't have that run through the copy machine a zillion times aura to them in that case.

49 posted on 09/08/2004 9:06:44 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Pikamax

Notice that "180" re Bush means his Form 180. And "180" re kerry means FLIP FLOP!!


50 posted on 09/08/2004 9:08:06 PM PDT by Waco
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To: NYCVirago

This is going to be hilarious, because every major news organization is running with this bogus story like it's a new toy on Christmas morning.


51 posted on 09/08/2004 9:10:53 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead
This is going to be hilarious, because every major news organization is running with this bogus story like it's a new toy on Christmas morning.

Exactly. It seems like that if CBS were concerned about journalistic integrity, instead of smearing Bush, they would have checked out the authenticity of these documents, something you figured out in a quick perusal of them.

52 posted on 09/08/2004 9:15:53 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
And, isn't it "funny" that 25 "news" articles all coming trickling out at once ... All are treated with "serious: concern and "professional interest" and "warrant investigation" ...

Coinkydinks, don't you just love 'em?

It is fun to watch so many of them coming of the "We am not biased" closet at the same time, because all their efforts won't really change voter's opinions.

There's the entrenched Kerry voters and the Bush voters, and the fighting is over the undecided/independents. But the undecided/independents aren't nearly as trusting of the U.S. media as they used to be. Fox News and the Internet have changed the playing field in a most upsetting way for the old-time entrenched liberal U.S. media.

This is not their "good old days" when the very liberal Walter Cronkite could tell Americans "And that's the way it was." with no rebuttal opportunities, and have a very large percentage of the country watching the man called "the must trusted man in America". It's a shifting paradigm!:)

53 posted on 09/08/2004 9:17:11 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Pikamax

I have read several excellent replies here, but I'm thinking that there is a larger point consider. That is, the dems don't really think that they have a winning issue in the long run, what they have is a RED HERRING to use as a foil of MORAL EQIUIVALENCE.

It's the way they argue. If we make a valid assertion, they parry by (vocally) reversing the charges. And that's the point. They deflect legitimate charges (kerry's cowardice, turning on his fellow swifties and Viet Vets, delusional lies, meeting with the enemy) with minor counter-charges . They hope to get US (or the news consuming public) to focus entirely on the counter-charge. That's their objective. That's their way.

It's important to defend Dubya, but we should keep in mind that the depth of Mr. kerry's depravity is on no scale comparable to NYT or CBS's interpretation of National Guard paperwork vagueries. And that, my friends, should be considered at the beginning of any counter to Guard service inquiries.




54 posted on 09/08/2004 9:25:55 PM PDT by Seaplaner ( "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Pikamax
Why are they trying to ressurrect essentially a dead horse, especially since the author of the story in the Boston Globe is a paid aide for the Kerry campaign (objective? fat chance!) and the the main accuser (former Texas Lt. Governor Ben Barnes) has a very chequered past?

This story will be dead within one week, in my humble opinion.

55 posted on 09/08/2004 9:38:32 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Pikamax

I would like to see someone in the MSM ask Kerry about his early discharge from the Naval Reserves and how that came about?


56 posted on 09/08/2004 11:26:40 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Buckhead
For visual comparison: This unrelated gov't memo from 1972 (googled).
57 posted on 09/09/2004 8:24:13 AM PDT by jpers36
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To: Buckhead

Further evidence of forgery is given here:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007760.php

How do we get this to CBS?


58 posted on 09/09/2004 8:42:03 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969; Buckhead

Maybe it should go to FoxNews instead. Although actually, I'll bet that ABC and NBC wouldn't mind slamming CBS over a forgery, even if they are partisan.


59 posted on 09/09/2004 8:42:56 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969; marblehead17

Do you know how hard it is to center text on a typewriter? Look at the headings of the memos. Perfect.


60 posted on 09/09/2004 8:53:20 AM PDT by Darth Reagan (your lazy butts are in this too)
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