Skip to comments.Libertarians: A Party Against America ("But really, what a bunch of sickos.")
Posted on 09/08/2004 8:53:21 PM PDT by quidnunc
This Saturday is Sept. 11, the third anniversary of, well, Sept. 11. A political organization holding a meeting that day urges its members to show up "wearing some clothing article colored black to mourn the deaths of the thousands of people who have died as a result of U.S. government policies."
That's right, this outfit thinks the anniversary of an attack on America is an appropriate day for a Blame America First-fest. Ah well, we've come to expect such things from moonbat Muslims and commie peaceniks. There's no point in getting upset.
Only this group of ideological extremists consists neither of Islamists nor commies. It's the Libertarian Party and its "presidential candidate," Michael Badnarik. They are, of course, perfectly entitled to exercise their right to freedom of speech. But really, what a bunch of sickos.
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I used to fancy myself a liberatrian, but "no mas, amigo!"
How long will it take their meeting to bring up history's real tragedy...the War on Drugs??!!!
I still do, but thanks to the whackjobs running the LP I must constantly emphasize the lack of capitalization.
Well, there is nothing wrong with being a libertarian. There is, however, something very wrong with being a member of the "Libertarian" Party.
"I used to fancy myself a liberatrian, but "no mas, amigo!"
Same here. I'm just glad that the libertarians I liked in the first place, Neal Boortz and Larry Elder, are on our side...
It's scheduled right after their first snack break of Slim Jims and Ho Hos
LOL. Or a dyslexic librarian.
These guys are not true libertarians. That is, if they truly supported liberty, they would support the war on Islamic terrorism because they would understand that the greatest threat to liberty today is radical Islam. Those killed by Islamists have no liberty, and neither will the living if we go soft on radical Islam.
Islamists' stated goal is complete world domination, the unification of all nations under a totalitarian Islamic theocracy.
The reason libertarians don't support the war on terrorism is that the same arrogrance, short-sightedness, and pseudo-intellectual bed-wetting that has invaded the Democratic Party has also taken control of the Libertarian Party.
I am a libertarian. And I am certainly not a Libertarian. The party has gone to pot. Literally.
I'm a Drew Carey Libertarian.
Sadly though, if you look at www.Cato.org on the terror war, there are some small l's that aren't completely reality based. I say this after years of absolutely swearing by Cato's positions.
I thought one of the legitimate libertarian approved functions of government was homeland security. Not for this crew. Buh-bye.
Oh, the HUMANITY!!!
I use to be a libertarian. This kind of nonsense isn't going to bring me back, that's for sure. As long as there are infidels in the world the true Islamic believers are going to try and kill or convert them. The one's who say they are Moslem but don't kill for Allah are not following the tenants of their evil religion.
Yeah, if we only allowed heroin to be sold in kindergarden, all would be well with the republic. Sorry guys, ya lost me.
For a noble moment it seemed to have some promise. But the last year they just seemed to become liberals again. I can barely read them any more. Seems like they went back to being liberals all the way. The only good stuff these days is the good stuff. Conservatism. There is just nothing else out there right now. You don't attack your country when your country is being attacked. I guess the war destroyed the libertarian movement.
Being a libertarian for the most part myself, I readily admit that the libertarian philosophy is always going to have holes when it comes public goods.
National Defense, as well as other public goods, can never be truly resolved by libertarian philosophy, with its instinct to simply privatize everything. But somethings can't be privatized, and the libertarin position on those issues are always going to be inadequate in dealing with such subjects.
oh how excellent!! Love your literalism...
The left is very welcome to them.
Me to I even joined the party.. Very sad reality check.
Yeah, but what's to stop a private army from imposing its own martial law? That's why privatize army can't work.
The Libertarian Party continues to disgrace itself ...
If they were serious about their purported principles,
they would demonstrate against the bloated federal
government, not whore after the liberal media by
playing liberal, as here.
For Libertarians who don't follow the blame-America foreign policy plank that Badnarik espouses, I suggest as an alternative Larry Elder, Los Angeles talk show host. We're throwing our vote away anyway, so go for the write-in.
My response to Badnarik is this: if gratuitous American intervention overseas causes terrorism, then why don't all the terrorists come from Latin America and the Caribbean? Our "intervention" in the Middle East has mainly taken the form of giving them trillions of dollars for their oil. It seems that giving Arabs too much money has had the same deleterious effects as giving our CEOs too much money.
I know. I had my tongue planted in my cheek, mate. I have never run across libertarians who did advocate a privatised military. I have come across those who think that the military should be overseen and funded by the national government, but organised in the states - basically making the Guard take-on the overwhelming majority of the defense duties. Personally, I do not think that such a scheme works well in the modern world.
That said, I am curious about the waiting period on an F-16...
Back in the 1970s, I used to imagine the LP's second amendment group: the Emergency Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Tactical Nuclear Weapons. 'If they've got 'em, we need 'em too.'
Thank you for seeing the error of your ways! :-)
Two and 1/2 minutes.
LOL! I can see it now...
"No, kids, daddy is not digging a pit for a swimming pool; that hole is for the Minuteman II silo."
I think the Libertarian party still has promise. But at the current time it is not being fulfilled, it remains a promise. I think its fundamental problem is that it abandoned the philosophy upon which its political philosophy is built. That split allowed it to be dragged into the superficial gutter by interest groups like pot heads and motorcycle helmet laws rather than addressing principles.
I still see the promise of the Libertarian party. But I do not yet see the promise of that promise being fulfilled.
For the record here is what I mean about the philosophy underpinning the political philosophy: Political philsophy deals with the proper role of government and the morality of societal interpersonal interactions. As such, it is an extension of ethics/morality, which is itself an extension of metaphysics and epistemology.
The philosophy underpinning the political philosophy is as follows:
Liberals (Control Democrat Party): Kantian roots, Socialist philosophy
Conservatives (Republican Party): Religious roots, specifically Judeo Christian. Religious conception of morality rather than philosophical (religion and philosophy answer the same questions)
Libertarian (controls nothing): Enlightenment Era philosophy....the same as what this country was founded on.
If you go back further, the philsophy can be seen as a duel between Plato (liberals/socialists) and Aristotle (libertarians).
Just remember, if we're going to use that interpretation then the guy next door as the right to anti-aircraft, and while you're tooling around the skies, his drug adled teenager and his drug adled friends are shooting at you for kicks.
They are not now,nor have they EVER been "serious".
That is scheduled right after their hooker break.
I have to wholeheartidly concur...
Yup, but they are too stoned to operate the flak batteries. ;-)
I am just delving into a bit of cheeky humour to make light of this unfortunate situation. There was a time when the Libertarian Party had some solid core principles. Now, they have just gone over the cliff.
I have never voted for a Libertarian, I am going to on Nov. 7, the one running against McCain.
Yo, dude. Over here.
C'mon C J, how do you *really* feel?
I find myself using the terminology that I've heard Professor Walter Williams use...
That pretty much works for me. The actual Libertarian Party has gone around the bend. For the most part, I agree with many of the tennants, but the party really does look like a bunch of "Whack Jobs."
I share many of the same ideals as Walter Williams and Neal Boortz.
No one mentioned Congressman Ron Paul yet?
Hoping for video.
The ineffectual RINO? LOL
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