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IVAN'S NEW HURRICANE TRACK - FOLLOWING CHARLIE'S PATH
National Hurricane Center ^ | Sept 8, 2004 11PM EST

Posted on 09/08/2004 10:31:53 PM PDT by 11th_VA



TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hurricaneivan; ivan
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This bad boy needs to go away ... NOW !!!
1 posted on 09/08/2004 10:31:53 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: kerrybotox

Well then, I retract my comment on post #1 ... LOL !!!


3 posted on 09/08/2004 10:38:36 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: 11th_VA

LOL


4 posted on 09/08/2004 10:42:44 PM PDT by psjones
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To: 11th_VA

2:00 AM update should be out any time now.


5 posted on 09/08/2004 10:43:19 PM PDT by Lawdoc (This space for rent.)
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To: Lawdoc

The graphic linked will update automatically


6 posted on 09/08/2004 10:44:39 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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God I wish I lived in Florida in a mobile home.


7 posted on 09/08/2004 10:45:42 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: 11th_VA

Now a cat 5 storm with 160 MPH sustained winds and a pressure of 925 mb.....Yikes!


8 posted on 09/08/2004 10:49:36 PM PDT by Lawdoc (This space for rent.)
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To: Lawdoc

Whoa, most unbelievable weather season in quite a while ...


9 posted on 09/08/2004 10:51:11 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: 11th_VA
Maybe it's just me but I got the impression the last few days that the weather people almost want it to hit Florida. I hope Ivan breaks up and dies out or barring that, it at least weakens and hits the least populous area possible.
11 posted on 09/08/2004 10:53:47 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: 11th_VA

dont trust anything that predicts where a storm will go over 6 whole days


12 posted on 09/08/2004 10:54:47 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I think it's just you - nobody would want it to hit Florida, that's like saying somebody would kill kids for political purposes ...


13 posted on 09/08/2004 10:56:34 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: Lawdoc

I'm praying this sucker will miss Florida, just to give them a break - and then I realize that Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, or Texas will end up taking a Cat 3 or higher storm. I don't want that, either.

Pray, and batten down your hatches, people...


14 posted on 09/08/2004 10:57:10 PM PDT by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
dont trust anything that predicts where a storm will go over 6 whole days

True - anything over 48 hours needs to be taken with a grain of salt - but I wouldn't want to see this graphic on my front paper if I lived in Key West of Tampa tomorrow ...

15 posted on 09/08/2004 10:59:12 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: Lawdoc

I live just north of Tampa, I just found out friends of mine lost their roof Saturday in Charley. I mean, lost it. It blew off.

I am scared to death of this storm, I don't care how far out it is.


16 posted on 09/08/2004 11:00:59 PM PDT by I still care (Have you heard about the Democrat cocktail? It's ketchup with a chaser.)
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To: 11th_VA
All I'm saying is that the Gulf Coast is just as vulnerable to this storm as Florida, but the weather people almost always mention Florida in every report, like it's guaranteed to hit there.
17 posted on 09/08/2004 11:01:12 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I get your point ...


18 posted on 09/08/2004 11:04:21 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: 11th_VA

Florida has had its share of weather this season - no doubt.

I think it gets mentioned by everyone so often because it sticks out at the entrance to the Gulf like a sore thumb. From the direction Ivan is approaching it would take some work for Florida to get a clean miss from this storm.

Certainly storm track prediction error at 120 hours out is large, but if were in Florida I would do what I could to prepare. Any prudent person on the gulf coast should keep an eye out too just in case.

This storm dropped 26 mb of pressure in less than 12 hours...thats impressive. It would be wonderful if Ivan dissipated before it got to the CONUS. IMO not likely absent divine intervention.

I'm not an expert, but I once stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. :)

I have relatives in Florida who might be making an unscheduled visit if things don't change.

God bless anyone in the path of this nasty critter.


19 posted on 09/08/2004 11:23:33 PM PDT by Lawdoc (This space for rent.)
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To: 11th_VA
God can make these Hurricanes disappear in an instance. With a land filled with pornography, gay days, adulterers, liars, traitors, cheaters, and music glorifying whoredom and murder, I wonder why he hasn't?
20 posted on 09/08/2004 11:29:03 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Cream rises to the top, but in a secular culture, so does the slime.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
I seem to recall a verse about the rain falling on the the good and evil. Or as we read in Luke 13:

[Do you suppose] "those 18 on whom the tower of Siloam fell and killed them were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem?"

"I tell you no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."

21 posted on 09/08/2004 11:36:15 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
The theory sounds great until you realize that there are just as many God-fearing people who don't participate in those activities living in the areas that get whomped by hurricanes, and the Christians have about the same chances of getting killed or suffering damages in them as some street hoodlum- maybe a little higher in the case of an imprisoned hoodlum since a prisoner is surrounded by a safe, windowless reinforced concrete cell.

The ones who know Christ just don't have to worry about what happens to their soul after they get killed by a grapefruit traveling at 140 mph- the unrepentent ones do.

Note that Las Vegas doesn't have hurricanes. (Or much else.) It's remarkably safe from natural disasters. Does that mean the place is righteous? I don't think so, any more than I think that lower-income people living in trailers are more evil than other people because they tend to get smashed more often and more severely than wealthier people in cinderblock houses.

A hurricane is one of God's ways of redistributing heat and moisture. If we didn't have them we'd be in more trouble than we ever get from them. Florida would be a barren desert but for the hurricane, and the central and eastern US would also be drier and not so good for growing the crops and timber our country and the world needs were it not for spent hurricanes and tropical storms blowing themselves out in the Mississippi valley.

;-)

22 posted on 09/09/2004 12:13:16 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
Psalms 107:23-31

23 They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters;
24 These see the works of the Lord, and his wonders in the deep.
25 For he commandeth, and raiseth the stormy wind, which lifteth up the waves thereof.
26 They mount up to the heaven, they go down again to the depths: their soul is melted because of trouble.
27 They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man, and are at their wit's end.
28 Then they cry unto the Lord in their trouble, and he bringeth them out of their distresses.
29 He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still.

30 Then are they glad because they be quiet; so he bringeth them unto their desired haven.
31 Oh that men would praise the Lord for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!

Just thought that a reminder of God's ever-present protection was in order. Ask, and ye shall receive...
23 posted on 09/09/2004 2:07:34 AM PDT by NationSoConceived ("Truth bestows no pardon upon error, but wipes it out in the most effectual manner." - M.B.E.)
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To: I still care

I live in Citrus Co. & we really got hit by Frances. 2 trees down here and many trees down in the neighborhood. I have the whole curb except the driveway with the tree debris. I really don't care about seeing another hurricane anytime soon but I guess we will know Sun. if its coming up the West Coast.


24 posted on 09/09/2004 2:12:10 AM PDT by jrcats
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To: NationSoConceived

Thanks.


25 posted on 09/09/2004 3:20:25 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: NationSoConceived

So when will Terri-Schinlder Schiavo be released to the care of loving people?


26 posted on 09/09/2004 3:23:10 AM PDT by bvw
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To: jrcats

The boat docks at NAS JAX dissappeared last weekend, and many boats sunk. The deck at my club is just twenty pilings now. Many friends still have no electricity.

We just got the far edge!


27 posted on 09/09/2004 3:52:16 AM PDT by opbuzz
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To: opbuzz

Sounds pretty bad up there. I don't think Fl could handle a third hurricane. I guess Grenada has 90% of homes damaged with 12 deaths so far. Ivan is up to 160 mph. Only thing we can do is pray that Ivan fizzles.


28 posted on 09/09/2004 3:58:03 AM PDT by jrcats
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To: 11th_VA
Maybe we can use some of those WMDs we found in Iraq to destroy Ivan.


BUMP

29 posted on 09/09/2004 4:11:29 AM PDT by tm22721 (In fac they)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I'm in SE Texas near the Gulf. We are having very cool weather for this time of year. If the cold-front doesn't stall out, maybe it will push the thing back out into the Atlantic.


30 posted on 09/09/2004 4:22:26 AM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: lonestar

If it's a strong dry cold front, it could kill the storm.


31 posted on 09/09/2004 4:25:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: kerrybotox

Perhaps someone up there didn't like what Kitty Kelly was saying?


32 posted on 09/09/2004 4:35:41 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: piasa

Good answer; agreed.


33 posted on 09/09/2004 4:41:41 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Lawdoc

Well the current track takes it over Jamaica and to hit Florida it goes thru a thick part of Cuba...I'm sure that will cause some shearing of the storm!


34 posted on 09/09/2004 5:10:23 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

It was dry and it is 60 this morning. The high was 84 yesterday--10 degrees below normal.


35 posted on 09/09/2004 5:27:28 AM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: 11th_VA
Damn. I did not need to see that...
36 posted on 09/09/2004 5:28:05 AM PDT by mhking
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Was Frances bad in ATL for you? It was here in east-central GA. And that was as a depression/t.storm! I think I want my pine trees GONE!

As we sat in the dark Tues. a.m., I felt for the people sitting in the dark for days, without a roof or walls or house. I hope Ivan takes a hike across Mexico and out to the Pacific.


37 posted on 09/09/2004 5:37:00 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("...you're not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief.")
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To: 11th_VA
This is what accuweather has:


38 posted on 09/09/2004 5:38:22 AM PDT by eyespysomething ("...you're not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief.")
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To: mhking

No one does..........


39 posted on 09/09/2004 5:39:30 AM PDT by Gabz (FR is no more addictive than air and water. It's just a necessity.)
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To: 11th_VA
No wonder it's been quiet in Jamaica this week, they're all scurrying around trying to bring in the harvest before Friday night.

Hmmm... I guess it will jus' have to be a little green dis year, Mon!

40 posted on 09/09/2004 5:44:23 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Commentary of the kind you have been making on these hurricane threads is exactly what drives unsaved people away from accepting Christ.

Who would want to associate for eternity with someone of your ilk?


41 posted on 09/09/2004 5:53:27 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: 11th_VA
Approaching Florida from that angle, Ivan could easily veer within the next 48 hours and head anywhere from the FL panhandle to SC/NC.

Let's see where the storm's tracking on Friday evening....

42 posted on 09/09/2004 5:59:58 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (Only 5 cents a troll? Must be too many of the varmints around here...)
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To: eyespysomething
Was Frances bad in ATL for you?

Parts of Metro didn't get power back until last night; here, we got ours back early Tuesday morning. Decent number of trees down all over the place; I noticed plenty down along the sides of roads as I was out yesterday.

43 posted on 09/09/2004 6:10:12 AM PDT by mhking
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To: All
Special Bulletin From NHC

224 WTNT61 KNHC 091040 TCUAT BULLETIN HURRICANE IVAN UPDATE NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 635 AM AST THU SEP 9 2004 AN AIR FORCE RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATING IVAN THIS MORNING RECENTLY REPORTED...AT 614 AM AST OR 1014Z...A FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND OF 154 KT IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT. THEY ALSO REPORTED A LOWER CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 920 MB...SUGGESTING THAT IVAN MAY CONTAIN SURFACE WINDS A LITTLE STRONGER THAN THE 160 MPH INDICATED IN THE 5 AM AST ADVISORY. DROPSONDE WIND REPORTS ALSO INDICATED WINDS OF NEAR 210 MPH AT AN ALTITUDE OF ABOUT 350 FEET ABOVE THE OCEAN SURFACE. FORECASTER STEWART

44 posted on 09/09/2004 6:13:30 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: 11th_VA; All
I posted on a previous thread about Frances. I mentioned that Frances made me nervous, real nervous.

Well, I have now been through two Hurricanes, Charley and Frances. Frances has surely been the worst for me. I am still without power not to mention the destruction of my property. Yeah, insurance is there but it is a very small comfort. My family and I have been living with a small generator, enough to keep the fridge and a couple of lights going. The power company expects me to be out about 4 more days.

To repeat a phrase about Ivan "This bad boy needs to go away ... NOW !!!

I was born and raised in Central Florida and will never leave. I will take the good with the bad, including the 2000 election mess. (sorry, had to add a little humor there) I do not live in a Mobile Home and I know there are people out there in worse situations than I am. There will always be people that will make lite of any situation, however, let me give you a little taste of what it is like to live during and in the aftermath of a single Hurricane, not to mention two.

First, the feeder bands on the storm start up, this give you a little indication of what you are getting ready to get hit with. There are intermitten breaks of clouds and sunshine, actually a little deceiving. In my case a little rain is mixed in with the wind, usually horizontal. Then it stops.

Next, a few more bands of the storm enter and there is no cloud gaps with sunshine, just low clouds moving rapidly above you. The wind picks up and continues to get stronger. You watch as Trees shake violently and then snap or fall over with the roots exposed. You witness Electrical Transformers as the blow up and send blue, green and white sparks fly from the pole like a fireworks display. The noise from the explosion resonates through your body. You see shingles and tin being peeled off of roofs and barns. Fences are blown down, yes even chain link fences. You are in complete awe of the power you are witnessing. You hear roaring above your head hoping you don't see a funnel headed your way. Frances lasted from Friday through Sunday for us, it was a very slow moving storm and I happen to live in an area where we received the NE side of the storm. You can't imagine the "Cabin Fever" that sets in after 2 days, you would have to live through it to understand.

While all this is happening your mind is racing, I hope I have prepared enough to keep my family safe. All this in a storm that didn't produce more than 90 mph sustained winds. Considered a Catagory 1.

In the aftermath of the storm, we are fortunate nobody is injured. Generators help, but do not replace your electrical service. Gas is temporarily difficult to get, supplies are short. We cook on the grill, Pancakes, hamburgers, hot dogs and drink bottled water. Milk is in short supply, a large supply was lost by the Dairy Farms due to the storm(s). We shower under the water hose. I am up most of the night making sure nothing happens to the generator. We are locked and loaded for possible looters.

Ivan could possibly be #3. I hope not!

Sorry for the long post, it could have been longer, however, I wanted others who have not experienced what it was like to get a little glimpse of the awesome nature of these storms. There is a lot of stress and anxiety that goes along with it as well.

Regards

45 posted on 09/09/2004 7:01:57 AM PDT by BA63
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To: Camachee

Dear God:

Whatever Florida did, "We're Sorry Already!!" You want the Mouse? We'll give up the Mouse! Come and get him, just have mercy on the rest of us! (And run off the thong-clad middle-aged tourists while you're at it.)


46 posted on 09/09/2004 7:07:46 AM PDT by January24th
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To: 11th_VA

Matthew 5:43-45


47 posted on 09/09/2004 7:11:37 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (God Bless Zell Miller.)
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To: tm22721; Admin Moderator
Maybe we can use some of those WMDs we found in Iraq to destroy Ivan.

That's an awfully trollish thing to say. At the best it's way way off topic and poor humor and at the worst it's a slam on our president on a thread where politics shouldn't enter in.

Please rethink postings such as these.

48 posted on 09/09/2004 8:50:08 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Rebelbase
Who would want to associate for eternity with someone of your ilk?

Religion attracts many unstable personalities who enjoy the thought of God's Wrath smiting people they don't like. Some of those people post dire hurricane warnings on Internet sites; others fly airplanes into skyscrapers. The motivating sentiment is exactly the same.

49 posted on 09/09/2004 8:57:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: 11th_VA

bump


50 posted on 09/09/2004 10:47:27 AM PDT by GOPJ
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