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CBS'S BIG BLUNDER? (Credits Free Republic)
New York Post ^ | 9/10/04 | JOHN PODHORETZ

Posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 09/09/2004 10:55:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

September 10, 2004 -- THE populist revolu tion against the so- called mainstream media continues. Yesterday, the citizen journalists who produce blogs on the Internet — and their engaged readers — engaged in the wholesale exposure of what appears to be a presidential-year dirty trick against George W. Bush. What the bloggers and their audiences did was call into profound question the authenticity of four documents proudly trumpeted by CBS News in a much-heralded investigative report on Wednesday night's edition of "60 Minutes" about the president's National Guard service in the early 1970s.

These were "previously unseen documents . . . obtained by '60 Minutes,' " the network bragged Wednesday night on its Web site. Their author, supposedly, was Bush's squadron commander, Jerry Killian, who died 20 years ago.

They "include a memorandum from May 1972," CBS reports, "where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about 'how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November.' " A document dated "18 August 1973" complains that Killian is being asked to "sugar coat" Bush's record. "I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job," the document says.

Liberals went wild with glee about the story, especially after the onslaught on John Kerry's Vietnam record by his fellow Swift-boat veterans.

Kevin Drum, the most talented of the left-wing bloggers, wrote: "This story is a perfect demonstration of the difference between the Swift-boat controversy and the National Guard controversy. Both are tales from long ago and both are related to Vietnam, but . . . in the National Guard case, practically every new piece of documentary evidence provides additional confirmation that the charges against Bush are true."

[snip]The Minneapolis lawyers who run were on the case early. Two of the blog's readers directed their attention to a note left on an Internet bulletin board on the Web site, the 47th posting on the topic there. Post No. 47 pointed out that there was something off about these documents from the 1970s: The spacing between the letters and the words was proportional, and only a few IBM electric typewriters could achieve that effect back then.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: kattracks
This is so fantastic. I was heavily into typing and the introduction of computers into my workplace in the early 80s so this is bringing back memories of switching the "balls" (sorry) in the typewriter from font to font...even then with proportional spacing very limited.



301 posted on 09/10/2004 5:52:55 AM PDT by DaughterofEve (W)
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To: Travis McGee

Blind rage makes the Kery camp very careless. I include CBS in "Kerry camp". This has the same MO as the sloppy military service citations Kerry allegedly won. Just put some s**t out in 'Word', distress the copy enough to look old, and let the lamestream carry the water.

302 posted on 09/10/2004 5:56:02 AM PDT by Swanks
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To: Strider

In order to memorialize this from now on when referring to an intentional media smear it should be called a "47."

303 posted on 09/10/2004 5:56:53 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Buckhead

Well, it is good to see that some of the "Old Media" are fiunally catching up!

304 posted on 09/10/2004 5:57:15 AM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Cooltouch

Brit Hume covered it last night. It's now growing some very long legs.

305 posted on 09/10/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: kattracks
The best part about this is that the media assumes we're all a bunch of clueless, right-wing sh*theads. And we so aren't.

Bravo Zulu to Howlin, Tanker KC, and all the others who completely dusted CBS.

306 posted on 09/10/2004 5:59:21 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Cosmo

Howlin's gonna be FAMOUS!!! woo hoo!!

307 posted on 09/10/2004 6:00:09 AM PDT by marway (JF'nK, show us your records now!)
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To: kattracks
The problem is not, as some would have it, that Barnes has raised half a million dollars for Kerry. The problem is that Barnes has already lied about this on videotape, and I use the word "lied" without difficulty, where he says he pulled strings for Bush when "I was lieutenant governor of Texas." The thing is that George W. Bush was sworn into the National Guard in May 1968. Ben Barnes didn't become lieutenant governor until 1969.

What IS with liberals and their inability to keep 1968 and 1969 straight?

308 posted on 09/10/2004 6:00:31 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: geros


309 posted on 09/10/2004 6:01:45 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Yaelle; Howlin; Buckhead

This is SO cool. I love being on the right side. FReepers rock!

310 posted on 09/10/2004 6:03:42 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Just another win for the "rightest warriors"!

311 posted on 09/10/2004 6:04:30 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: ScottFromSpokane

You know we hide the good stories til you're not around..


312 posted on 09/10/2004 6:05:04 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: sarasota

Well CBS radio news isn't giving up the ghost. I just heard their top of the hour update. They mention the outcry of forgery, but are standing behind the documents based on HANDWRITING examination. It appears the typed portion which is the big qustion just went right over their slimy heads.

313 posted on 09/10/2004 6:05:55 AM PDT by DAC22
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To: Spanaway Lori
I want to know who consciously exploited a dead man to smear out Commander in Chief.

The fact that their source was a dead man was no accident (much like half of their "voters".) I know these Dems, this was purposeful that their "source" wouldn't be around to confirm or deny.

I don't know how much more duplicitous you can actually get but I'm sure they will surprise us yet again.
314 posted on 09/10/2004 6:07:58 AM PDT by N. Beaujon ( "You debate a War BEFORE the War Kerry, Not DURING.")
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To: DAC22

This is legal stalling, that's all. Changing the subject to something more palatable for CBS. Their activity since the story broke is all about covering their you-know-whats. It's not going to work.

315 posted on 09/10/2004 6:08:25 AM PDT by sarasota
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I agree with you. I often wondered how the Internet would benefit society; now I know.

I also wonder if the White House (anonymously) could use FR to put ideas (like forgery) before the members to start activism? That way the WH would not look aggressive. Just a thought.

316 posted on 09/10/2004 6:09:49 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Grampa Dave

FREEREPUBLIC, the greatest show on Earth!

317 posted on 09/10/2004 6:11:29 AM PDT by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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There is a connection deeper than accidental between the conservative temperament and the new cybermedia, and a reason deeper than journalism for the left's discomfort with the new cybermedia. It is a competition between a centralized control structure (the Old Media) and a laizze-fair structure (The cybershere).

Each structure has an error correcting mechanism, but they are very different. A useful parallel is the competition between a Soviet-style economy and the US economy.

Error correction in the OM is by an editor. Most importantly, all information stays secret until the editor approves its veracity. Similarly, in a central economy, the apparatchnik (theoretically) looks at all information and then places value on every good and service, which value is then transmitted down to the peons.

In contrast to that, in an open economy the PRICE carries all the information around to all parties, and every consumer has full information instantly available to him with need of an intermediary. So, in the cybermedia, there is no editor and all information is passed around openly. Crucially, there is no NEED FOR AN EDITOR IF ERRORS HAPPEN OPENLY, and are subject to review by all players. This open process finds a way to place a value on every supposed bit of info, just like the marketplace places a price on goods and services in a free economy.

The OM keeps screaming that that the lack of an editor is the horrid weakness of the internet process. They don't understand that the lack of an editor IS the new paradigm, the lack of an editor is THE STRENGTH of the cybermedia, and that the error correction method is the OPENNESS of the process.

The loudest screamers in the OM are the folks who never understood why the Soviet economy fell.

All this means that the death of the OM is certain, just as certain as the inevitable triumph of capitalism over communism. And the left hates the New Media because it removes any need for an intermediary, which puts them out of a job.

The left will NEVER EVER start up an effective cybermedia of its own because the structural model is antithetical to the wiring of their personalities.

318 posted on 09/10/2004 6:13:44 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: NYCop

This is another example of why all who use Free Republic should cancel their subscriptions to their fish wraps and send the monthly savings to Free Republic.

Free Republic is an absolute nightmare and day time terror for the lying lunatic libs.

They lie, and Freepers document their lies. Now we get national coverage of our documentation.

Free Republic and the Swift Vets need our donations to get the real truth out to Americans, not the lies and spins of the mediots.

319 posted on 09/10/2004 6:19:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Kerry = The Wrong Candidate in the Wrong Country at the Wrong Time (post 9/11)!)
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To: N. Beaujon

"I want to know who consciously exploited a dead man to smear out Commander in Chief."

Hopefully, the widow and son of this dead gentleman will take CBS/60 Minutes and Dan Blather to civil court for damages.

320 posted on 09/10/2004 6:21:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Kerry = The Wrong Candidate in the Wrong Country at the Wrong Time (post 9/11)!)
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