Democrats.com asks volunteers to replicate forged memos on their typewriters

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[GOPcapitalist]

Are the Killian Memos a Forgery?

The media is buzzing with the possibility that the Killian memos broadcast on 60 Minutes are forgeries. The truth hangs on whether any commonly-used typewriters in the 60's-70's had proportional spacing. If you HAVE a typewriter like that, please type out a replica of Killian's first memo and see if your typewriter matches his.

[GOPcapitalist]

So the Democrats-dot-commies are trying the opposite of our strategy - "prove" the forgeries aren't forgeries by finding a typewriter that will replicate the memos. It's be a heck of a lot easier for them, of course, if they could simply open up their email sent boxes and print out the original one to CBS!

Perhaps we can have a little fun with this one though. Any thoughts/

Remember - Democrats.com is a self-described "unofficial" Democrat Party group that was set up before the 2000 elections by a bunch of Clinton White House goons, among them most notably John Kerry's new pollster Stan Greenberg.

[nutmeg]

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[Keith in Iowa]

What a bunch of freaking losers.

[kingu]

Aww, geeze, we'd have to pull out one of the old timers to carve us up a custom ball to get that superscript TH and there's all that bother of having to get to his widow and replace all the documents they have there.

Wouldn't it just be easier to blame the whole thing on Rove?

[ambrose]

What's scary, when you think about it, is that Kerry/CBS may have gotten away with this if they simply pulled out an old typewriter, and added a few typos and whiteout ink...

[AmericanCheeseFood]

Looney tunes are going to continue to throw kerosene on a chemical fire.

It's getting too funny.

[FranceForBushInAustin]

Hilarious, let's them spend some cycles on this !

[RobRoy]

Hey, let 'em try. I'm really not too concerned. Sometimes the truth is very empowering - and calming...

[GOPcapitalist]

If you want a real laugher click on this link. It's Democrats.com's conspiracy theory about how Karl Rove is behind it all!

http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=135152

Perhaps some freepers with typewriters can have some fun with this and send them some "replications" of the forgeries!

[A CA Guy]

How do they plan to handle that some of the memos were made after the person who supposedly wrote them retired?

[Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok]

"any ideas" sure, have some make up the name of a type writer that never exixsisted ( use a really strange name) then when starts being reported (u know they will run with it it with out checking) they'll look even more stupid and less credible.

[Waco]

Help! We're shiteheads!!

[ninonitti]

My suggestion to them would be to go to the National Zoo and head straight for the monkey house.

They then could chain chimps to typewriters and eventually come up with all the Great Books.

However I doubt that they'd ever come up with a bigger F*** Up than Rathergate.

[rdl6989]

Kerry/CBS may have gotten away with this if they simply pulled out an old typewriter, and added a few typos and whiteout ink...

It was amateur night. This was a low budget effort, and to think with Kerry's millions.

[Viet-Boat-Rider]

The Selectric model No. 2827-9j2 can do that, I have one and it was manufactured in 1969.

[Tempest]

Cool maybe we can give them another project like mowing my lawn while they're at it.

[GOPcapitalist]

Hey, give it a shot! They've got a forum set up for people to post reports back (http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=135152)

Go tell 'em about your ole' Strategerio 6900 that had a superscript key, proportional faunt, a centering button, and a bad tendency to splatter ink dots all over the background of the page it was typing. They'll make it front page news!

[datura]

This is turning into a remake of the movie "Naked Lunch" for the Rats - I love it!! (If you haven't seen it, do a Google on it - it was a cult classic.)

[GOPcapitalist]

oops. That should read font. It's getting late and spelling is getting wierd.

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Are they going to try and replicate the obviously forged sig as well?

[Political Junkie Too]

If you HAVE a typewriter like that, please type out a replica of Killian's first memo and see if your typewriter matches his.

Also, please type out the following: We are at war with Oceania. We have always been at war with Oceania.

-PJ

[RichInOC]

Democrats.com asks volunteers to replicate forged memos on their typewriters

If you take an infinite number of monkeys...

[rolling_stone]

proportional spacing is just the tip of the iceberg that the Rather-Titanic hit......

[Porterville]

I checked out their post and their examples just further the arguement that the documents are forged.... funny stuff... sad for long face.

[rolling_stone]

Though it makes you wonder, how smart these people are. Were they just computer illiterate. The obviously knew enough to age the documents, yet they didn't even think about font characteristics or the superscript.



They obviously don't watch perry mason etc...

[Casloy]

Is that the sound of imploding I hear?

[rolling_stone]

NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD FREEPERS TO COME TO THE AID OF THEIR COUNTRY..

[Redcloak]

Since I'm such a helpful guy, all of you lurking Demmies can mash here for a little help with your "Save Poor Dan" project.

Y'all can thank me later!

[GOPcapitalist]

You got that right. The kicker is in the exact overlaps, which is statistically impossible to achieve by a typewriter.

[StoneFury]

I'll bet those chuckleheads who made the fake docs were bragging to all their buddies and having a real good laugh, saying they had a surefire plan take Bush down. Now I bet they're in a spiderhole somewhere, praying the Dems don't get to them before we do.

[bluefish]

It wasn't even a low budget effort, it looked like a rushjob.

Rush job b/c they were panicing over Bush's bounce, which was bigger than they anticipated. Probably had it calculated out as to how much they would need to chip away at what they thought would be a minimal to non-existent lead.

Dems expect people to be stupid, so they hadn't planned on Bush's surge.

[GOPcapitalist]

ROTFLOL!

[Redcloak]

...and I've been thinking about posting only in fixed-width fonts just to make the poor devils feel a bit better.

[Mad Dawgg]

The Selectric model No. 2827-9j2 can do that, I have one and it was manufactured in 1969.

You sly dog.

[Cobra64]

Gentlemen,

I still have my mid-60s college era Atomic 1000 typewriter made by the Acme Typewriter Company.

Please send me the memo and I will retype it on the Atomic 1000.

If I can be of further assistance, please advise.

Yours truly,

A Concerned Citizen for Truth

[NYCVirago]

What's scary, when you think about it, is that Kerry/CBS may have gotten away with this if they simply pulled out an old typewriter, and added a few typos and whiteout ink...

Isn't it? Even though his widow and son are speaking out, CBS could still claim the documents are true.

[Jim Robinson]

Well, maybe they should look for Killian's secretary as he/she should be able to set this all straight. According to his widow and his son, Killian did not type. Must've been a secretary involved. Also, all they really need to do is produce the originals of these documents. It would be a simple matter to determine whether they were typewritten or laser printed. CBS should either cough up the originals or cough up the name of their source.

[maryz]

yet they didn't even think about font characteristics or the superscript.

If the perps are in their 30s, they just wouldn't know. After all, you can do Courier monospace in Word. And just because there's a center function doesn't mean you have to use it -- just eyeball the center, space over and backspace once for every two characters (the old way!), remember to use the lower-case L for 1's, etc.

But you'd have thought they'd at least acquire a real memo from the time and used it as a model.

[StoneFury]

Also see this guy's post for an animated overlay.

[Cobra64]

These freakin loonies beleive bush took down the WTC...

And caused hurricanes Charley, Francis, and Ivan. And before that, the Ice Age, and volcanoe eruptions of Mt. Krakatoa and Mt. Vesuvius.

[Chemist_Geek]

They obviously don't watch perry mason etc...

Heck, Spike TV has been playing nothing but "Crime Scene Investigation" since Monday...

[Robert A. Cook, PE]

Bet they forget that MANY old typewriters didn't have a "1" button: you HAD to use the "l" button!

[rdl6989]

Where can I see their examples?

[Richard Kimball]

I have a KRRE Sinetheform 180, and it produced the memo perfectly.

[Jenya]

This was one sloppy forgery. Why didn't they just cut and paste letters from the newspaper, like kidnappers used to do in the old days.

[rolling_stone]

Throw in your wrong address that was almost blacked out and that General Straudt that had retired in 1972 but mentioned in the 1973 memo...the superscript, format, signatures, right margins, and letterhead perfect spacing, evenness of ink, lack of normal typewriter fingerprints(some keys higher or lower darker, lighter etc)perfect alignment, to mention a few...