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60 Minutes to Infamy- those forged memos and The Shot Heard Round the World
various FR links | 09-10-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 09/10/2004 4:28:44 AM PDT by backhoe

Here is a pretty good current summary of the situation:
The Shot Heard Round the World   The echoes of the big Internet bang which annihilated a 60 Minutes story in under 12 hours are still resounding. The key riffs apparently started at Powerline and as Samizdata notes, the distributed intelligence of the Internet took over. Under the scrutiny of thousands of analysts, the CBS story began to melt down.
 
The start of it all:
 Documents Suggest Special Treatment for Bush in Guard
 
-more-
The Thread that broke the Camels Back:Post 47, and the Freepers who busted C.B.S.
 Let us not forget the contribution of TankerKC
 "Free Republic: Tomorrow's News Today."
 
 Forged Documents (electronic overlay of CBS PDF file and Word document) [perfect match]  CBS and the rest of the MSM - the Old media - with their JFKs - Journalists for Kerry - have been working overtime to bury Bush since he won the election. Do they stop at anything or is any lie too big for them?
 
 Authenticity of Bush memos questioned Typographical, formatting questions emerge
 
 CBS News denies Bush docs forged (CBS in credibility meltdown)
 
 CNN Still Ignoring Falsity Of Docs  Old Media-Old School. Five years ago they would have gotten away with it.
Thank you, Rush Limbaugh, the godfather of the New Media.
 
 New Documents May Shed Light on Bush Military Rec (AP ran this story even after forgery revealed)
 
 Bush Piloted Guard Trainers Before He Quit (AP buries new info on hoax)
 
 Guard Memos Fuel Another Vietnam-Era Battle; ... some question the documents' authenticity
 

Microsoft announces release of Word '73
 
 Guard memos on Bush fake, says squadron leader's son (new information about the signature)
 
 Woman at CBS Just Yelled at me and hung up! (212) 975 3691
 
 60 Minutes docs on Bush may be fake (UPI)
 

Guard records stir Democrats
- saying 'character counts' in a president --
 
Question: Who from the Kerry campaign is responsible?
 
 Democrats.com asks volunteers to replicate forged memos on their typewriters
 
CBS'S BIG BLUNDER? (Credits Free Republic)
 The Minneapolis lawyers who run powerlineblog.com were on the case early. Two of the blog's readers directed their attention to a note left on an Internet bulletin board on the freerepublic.com Web site — the 47th posting on the topic there.
 Post #47
 
 Pro-Kerry Media Expose Their Partisanship
 
 Seattle P-I running dubunked Bush docs in big headline (Day after questions arose)  "Dewey Beats Truman," only worse!
 
 Steve Malzberg on WABC with the forgery story
 
 John Ziegler on KFI (Los Angeles) discussing Forgery Documents  John Ziegler on KFI out here is all over this. His first segment was a brilliant lead in, playing all the groups and individuals attacking President Bush on the memos. He is making the case for a complete coordinated attack by the media and the DNC and the Kerry campaign.
http://www.kfi640.com/interactive/streaming.html
 
 But Why? (list of candidates who forged the CBS document)  This was going to be a late October surprise. They were going to release these forged documents on the weekend before the election, In this manner the Republicans wouldn't have time to respond. However, Kerry's numbers were so low, they panicked and release earlier
 
 Democrats Step Up Attack on Bush Guard Record  A link has been established between sKerry and the forgeries. Check out related stories on Drudge. 
 [Killian] WIDOW TO APPEAR ON 'NIGHTLINE'... Live Thread 
 CBSNEWS LAUNCHES INTERNAL INVESTIGATION AFTER SUSPICIOUS BUSH DOCS AIRED (drudge Siren)
 There's also some information on the American Spectator  
 Anatomy of a Forgery
 site that makes a connection. Kerry is a stupid desperate man right now.
 
 WHO faked the "60 Minutes" documents?
 
 Late Atlanta news ignores controvery over documents... Reports about Bush AWOL only...  Like the booing story, they will do everything they can not to retract. Folks, its painfully true - the media is not about reporting the news, but about advancing a liberal and Democrat agenda. It's becoming more and more clear.
 
 McAuliffe Statement on Breaking News About Bush's Military Record  It's too perfect to have this press release right after the story.
 
 The Media Prepare Kerry's Excuse
 
 O.K. Fill ME IN. JUST HOW WAS DAN RATHER CAUGHT WITH PANTS DOWN?
 Rathergate
 
 DNC ACTION ALERT: Demand the truth from Bush on National Guard service  Thanks. Once the document story settles, and (if) they are proven to be fakes, I plan to e-mail this to a lot of folks to show just how slimy the DNC can get.
 Gosh, the DNC is gonna have to stay up all night to keep up with the New Media in the future, aren't they?
 
 Burden now on CBS to authenticate its documents, lest it become a co-conspirator in fraud
 
 Valley Widow Casts Doubts on Bush Memos
 
 Killian's Wife Disputes Document Authenticity
 
 Signature on CBS documents don't match original
 
And finally, the MSM ( MainStreamMedia, AKA the Jackal Pack Press ) catches up with the New Media of the Internet & Talk Radio:
 WASH POST - "SOME QUESTION AUTHENTICITY OF PAPERS"  This is just too wonderful if this blows up in CBS face. And may I add the face of the national media as a whole who all ran with this story completely!
 False Documentation? Questions Arise About Authenticity of Newly Found Memos on Bush's Guard Service  As the honorable judge and great American Sanders Sauls of Floriduh once said during the Gore War... "It's like being nibbled to death by ducks."
 
 Killian Signed a Doc with a Different Typeface and Other Diffs One Year Later (FR EXCLUSIVE)
 
 CBS Bush's National Guard Service Documents --Hoax??
 Kudos to our friends on FREE REPUBLIC who I understand started this ball rolling. My understanding of the timeline:

Free Republic members post about the documents being BS.

Story picked up by INDC Journal http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/000838.php

The Blogosphere picks it up at:
Powerline http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007760.php
Little Green Footballs http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

Drudge does what Drudge does http://www.drudgereport.com/

The blogs continue to run with it and the evidence continues to mount.

The Weekly Standard picks up the story (see above posts)

CBS stands behind their story.

CBS capitulates. Then....

Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9967-2004Sep9.html

MSNBC
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5955784/

ABCNews
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Vote2004/bush_documents_040909-1.html


The Main Stream media ("MSM") is TOAST. This story show the power of the web, the power of the blog and the demise of the MSM.

The shift is shown by our Free Republic brothers, and our own Grig (with the subliminal story break).

A huge hit to the credibility of the leftist MSM has just been struck...lets stand back and bask in the glow.

Pat yourselves on the back...you deserve it.
 
Fox News to break forged document story ON NOW!  The only down side on this that I can see is that we haven't gotten to spend any time discussing Teressa calling us all "common people"...
 
 
 
 Son of Late Officer Questions Memos Attributed to His Dad  Just to realize that in less than 24 hours, TankKC's suspicon and Freepers' fabulous investigative skills and know-how hatched the biggest story to hit the air waves since Zell's give-em-hell speech. Hell has just frozen over for CBS and Kerry/Edward...
-more-
 
 Hello SEAN HANNITY ( Hannity credits FR with breaking "Selectragate" document scandal )
 
 
 
 
 
 "Crude and amazingly foolish forgeries"  -see my COLOCALIZATION of one of the "original" ANG documents with a Microsoft Word version written in Times New Roman.
 
 
 
 
Final nail in coffin:
 
Was Rather Duped by Anti-Bush Hoax?
 
 Bush Guard Documents: Forged  Well in truth CBS said the "believed" them to be authentic. They have given themselves a legal out. They didn't or can't "CERTIFY" them as authentic.
 I've been working in the field for over 20 years and currently serve with a text processing company so I am intimately familiar with these technologies. The document is an OBVIOUS forgery. Note last night I cautioned it's probably not even worth the exercise because it's not part of the current agenda. However, now that this forgery has been proven so effectively, Dan Rather must be held accountable.
 
 They are spinnig as fast as they can. In the wake of the revelation these documents are fake they think they can spin it into a negative for the White House.
 
 If theses DOCs are proven to be a hoax......The election is OVER and Dan Rather's career ends on the low note he'll be remembered for and rightly so.
 
THe THmoking Gun on Forged Killian Memos: UPDATE to Powerline Blog's "61st Minute" EvidenTH
 
 
 Bush "Memos" Look Forged  There are a couple of threads like this going, Howlin is trying to get all the info consolidated in one place. Could you repost your info here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210702/posts?q=1&&page=301
 
Better read this;
 In summary, the variable type reveals the Killian memos to be crude forgeries, the tiny "th" confirms it in the 8/18/73 memo, and I offer my other points as icing on the cake.
 


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1 posted on 09/10/2004 4:28:44 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Maybe Brit will do a "30" minutes on the military records of that "vietnam warlord" JFKerry.

Where is the speech "god" McCain?????


2 posted on 09/10/2004 4:31:51 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: backhoe

Aweome archiving.

The left STILL doesn't 'get' the internet.


3 posted on 09/10/2004 4:34:52 AM PDT by IncPen (Every Word From Kerry's Mouth is a Dishonorable Discharge)
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To: backhoe

BTTT!


4 posted on 09/10/2004 4:35:08 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: backhoe
Backhoe and Heavy Equipment Guy,

Good work on all the documentation. This has been unfolding at a non stop pace. Events are definitely swarming around the opposition. See http://www.rand.org/commentary/100703AWST.html

Regards, Mr Sol
5 posted on 09/10/2004 4:35:16 AM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: IncPen
Incpen,

"The left STILL doesn't 'get' the Internet."

Exactly. They even come here and read our posts and they still don't get it. It is amazing to see.

Mr Sol
6 posted on 09/10/2004 4:37:48 AM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: IncPen
The left STILL doesn't 'get' the internet.

Exactly- we are cruising down the information superhighway with the afterburners lit and the supercharger spooled up, and they are still cracking the whip over Ole Dobbin's backside, trying to get the family buckboard up to speed...

7 posted on 09/10/2004 4:38:13 AM PDT by backhoe (1990's? Decade of Frauds. 2000's? Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: backhoe

What can I say....you have left me *speechless* once again and have added another bookmark to my list.

A *you ***Rock*** backhoe* ping to .45MAN.


8 posted on 09/10/2004 4:39:40 AM PDT by dansangel ("Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide. " - Zell Miller)
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To: Solar Wind
Swarming is a seemingly amorphous but carefully structured, coordinated way to strike from all directions at a particular point or points...

Cool! Thanks for the link.

9 posted on 09/10/2004 4:41:04 AM PDT by backhoe (1990's? Decade of Frauds. 2000's? Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: .45MAN

Let's try again - ping!


10 posted on 09/10/2004 4:41:07 AM PDT by dansangel ("Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide. " - Zell Miller)
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To: dansangel

Hi to you & Dan- say, aren't you moving, in the teeth of the storm? Ivan?


11 posted on 09/10/2004 4:42:17 AM PDT by backhoe (1990's? Decade of Frauds. 2000's? Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: backhoe

Have you been up for the last 2 days? GREAT post!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 09/10/2004 4:42:30 AM PDT by .45MAN ("Vote for Life, Vote for Freedom ,Vote for Bush")
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To: backhoe
I think they may try to tough it out.

Only WaPo has the story on page one.

CNN and the Boston Globe are still running with it.

The Times is silent.

Can they really think they can still sell this?

Or is the goal, "Swift boats, forgeries, who knows? Let's move on"?

13 posted on 09/10/2004 4:43:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: Just mythoughts
The work in uncovering this was great, but those responsible must be brought to justice - and quickly! We are on the eve of an election and this was an outright attempt to undermine and defeat the government in a time of war.

We all assume this is a democrat/ new media scandal. Could there be the influence of foreign governments or movements involved in this effort? Radical Islam or our "Allies" like the French? Whoever they are need to be dragged into the sunlight - fast.

14 posted on 09/10/2004 4:45:32 AM PDT by Williams
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To: .45MAN

The lovely Miss E is going to work and hour later than usual, so I was able to quickly grab links from other areas.

15 posted on 09/10/2004 4:46:26 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Oh WOW!

So much stuff!

Thanks for putting it all in one spot!

Bump!


16 posted on 09/10/2004 4:48:48 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: Jim Noble

Can they really think they can still sell this? Or is the goal, "Swift boats, forgeries, who knows? Let's move on"?

I suspect the latter- the tried & true Clintonian "everybody does it" defense/deflection.

If they could just work sex into it, they'd be home free... no, wait, the MSM has been screwing us for years!

17 posted on 09/10/2004 4:49:23 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Moving ***Monday*** - please keep us in prayer.

The apartment complex in Palm Beach County tells us they are ready to receive us on Tuesday - but it's really up to God and Ivan at this point.

I just commented that my timing has never been all that great, but this is *ridiculous*....

((((((HUGS))))))) to you and Em and Taffy.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 4:50:15 AM PDT by dansangel ("Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide. " - Zell Miller)
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To: dansangel

historic bump


19 posted on 09/10/2004 4:52:42 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: dansangel
I just commented that my timing has never been all that great, but this is *ridiculous*....

If you run into trouble within about a two-hour driving radius of where we are, give us a call.

20 posted on 09/10/2004 4:52:52 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: tiamat

Thanks for looking- I have to don my househusband hat ( a la "Cookie" from Beetle Bailey ) but I'll be back after a while.


21 posted on 09/10/2004 4:54:30 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe
God bless freerepublic.com!!!
22 posted on 09/10/2004 4:54:33 AM PDT by haywoodwebb (American, Christian, Conservative, Negro . . . A return to the Party of Lincoln)
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To: backhoe

23 posted on 09/10/2004 4:57:20 AM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: backhoe

Excellent work backhoe

This story went by so fast, I couldnt keep up with it, but now its bookmarked.

Thanks for the excellent work


24 posted on 09/10/2004 4:57:56 AM PDT by backinthefold (Spitballs?? and a bowl of Mush?? I dont think so)
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To: backhoe

once again, i'm awed & humbled by the 'heavy lifting' FReepers do. Thanks for a great summation of these lies & lying liars.


25 posted on 09/10/2004 4:57:56 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4 (when the Democrats attack its campaigning, when the Republicans campaign its attacking)
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To: backhoe
Exactly- we are cruising down the information superhighway with the afterburners lit and the supercharger spooled up, and they are still cracking the whip over Ole Dobbin's backside, trying to get the family buckboard up to speed...

It won't always be this way. They'll figure it out. But the truth wins, and if we stick to the truth, so do we.

26 posted on 09/10/2004 4:58:09 AM PDT by IncPen (Every Word From Kerry's Mouth is a Dishonorable Discharge)
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To: Andrewksu

read later


27 posted on 09/10/2004 5:00:56 AM PDT by centurion316 (Infantry, Queen of Battle)
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To: backhoe

What did Kerry know, and when did he know it?


28 posted on 09/10/2004 5:04:36 AM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Be afraid, Hillary. Be very afraid. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)
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To: backhoe
If you run into trouble within about a two-hour driving radius of where we are, give us a call.

Thank you so much - that offer means more than you could ever know.

Our route will take us straight down I-75 to the FL Turnpike, so we won't be near your neck of the woods, unfortunately.

Speaking of which, this move ruins our plans to go to the island this year, so we won't have a chance to visit. Maybe once we settle in sometime next year.

29 posted on 09/10/2004 5:05:45 AM PDT by dansangel ("Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide. " - Zell Miller)
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To: backhoe

This story has reached critical mass.

Think of it. We could all see the demise of Kerry, Rather AND CBS, in one fell swoop.


30 posted on 09/10/2004 5:05:47 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: backhoe

#7 LOL! Can just "see" that!


31 posted on 09/10/2004 5:08:38 AM PDT by Carolinamom (Dan Rather's GOTCHA got him.)
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To: backhoe

Amazing work as usual, backhoe.

I wasn't online yesterday & am just now learning of all this.

Boy, you miss a day of FR, you miss a lot.


32 posted on 09/10/2004 5:14:07 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Williams
"The work in uncovering this was great, but those responsible must be brought to justice - and quickly! We are on the eve of an election and this was an outright attempt to undermine and defeat the government in a time of war.
We all assume this is a democrat/ new media scandal. Could there be the influence of foreign governments or movements involved in this effort? Radical Islam or our "Allies" like the French? Whoever they are need to be dragged into the sunlight - fast."

I agree completely. We are at war with this bunch of liars and crooks, who have demonstrated time and again there is nothing they won't try to regain control.

Usually these liberals do not expose their back sides so easily, that being the case one has to wonder about what is next.

After Clintons who completely turned "justice" on its face, with the same help by the likes of CBS and the ABC cohorts, this is not a new thing. What is new is that good people on this site had the endurance to watch their "crap" and expose them post haste.

CBS has a history of pulling political stunts, I am still simmering over their usage of Richard Clarke in that "Soviet style" hearings of the 911 Commission.

Reason why I look at this as another skirmish in the war with the left.
33 posted on 09/10/2004 5:16:09 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: jackbill
'We are on the eve of an election and this was an outright attempt to undermine and defeat the government in a time of war. We all assume this is a democrat/ new media scandal. Could there be the influence of foreign governments or movements involved in this effort? Radical Islam or our "Allies" like the French? Whoever they are need to be dragged into the sunlight - fast.'

THIS is what we should be writing to every newspaper that is dragging its feet on this story - there is a direct assault going on our President and it might be motivated by foreign governments, and we want to know NOW~~~!!!!!!!!

34 posted on 09/10/2004 5:17:12 AM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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Bump for reference


35 posted on 09/10/2004 5:17:31 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: backhoe; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...

MAXIUM BOOKMARK ALERT!!

Well done BH...


36 posted on 09/10/2004 5:19:04 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: backhoe

You, sir, rock.

I'm in enemy territory right now, in the Bay Area, so have not been able to follow this thing as closely as I'd like, and it's killing me! Thanks for your ultra-comprehensive-as-usual summary.


37 posted on 09/10/2004 5:23:19 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: dansangel

I was wondering about that. ;-)


38 posted on 09/10/2004 5:25:08 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: backhoe

The MSM lied to America when we were in Vietnam and they lie now.


39 posted on 09/10/2004 5:26:55 AM PDT by TigersEye (Let's hear about your Senate record already, John!)
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To: backhoe

Deep-Font

brings the msm to its liberal-bias knees in a mere 12 hours! Thanks to buckhead, Howlin, and so many others who kept on top of this story. With so many good investigative journalists working from their PCs, who needs SeeBS?
40 posted on 09/10/2004 5:27:05 AM PDT by shezza (Have you hugged a Swiftee today?)
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To: backhoe
Rathergate

Great! Wish I could do the superscript "th". How do you do that?

41 posted on 09/10/2004 5:28:59 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free)
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To: Jim Noble

>>>Or is the goal, "Swift boats, forgeries, who knows? Let's move on"?

Any hint of that must be severely dealt with. The Swifties have numerous living witnesses. The Dems have forged documents supposedly produced by a dead man, who they are dishonoring with the forgeries. Anyone suggesting the two situations are remotely comparable doesn't have two brain cells to rub together.

Hmmmmm, now that I think about it, I think you're right. We'll probably be hearing what you expect, soon, from The Usual Suspects on the Left.


42 posted on 09/10/2004 5:29:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: jackbill
This story has reached critical mass. Think of it. We could all see the demise of Kerry, Rather AND CBS, in one fell swoop.

Only if we write, call, email CBS News, Viacom, local affiliates and demand resignations and retractions and encourage all our friends to as well.

43 posted on 09/10/2004 5:30:04 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: WashingtonSource
Rathergate

Yeah, that works. < sup> before the "th", and < /sup> after.

44 posted on 09/10/2004 5:30:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: WashingtonSource
Great! Wish I could do the superscript "th". How do you do that?

Look here

45 posted on 09/10/2004 5:31:52 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

My FAX went out last night to Andrew Heyward, President of CBS News. He'll get another once I have enough coffee in me.

Andrew Heyward -- CBS News
Title: President
Department: Headquarters
Phone: (212) 975-4321
Fax: (212) 975-1893
Address: 524 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019


46 posted on 09/10/2004 5:32:09 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: backhoe

This stuff came directly from McAwful and the DNC. I know it did because they kept bringing this stuff up during the campaign and we were wondering why they were bringing up something that was so irrelevant. This was what they were waiting for and it backfired on them BIG TIME.

Put a stake in Kerry's campaign. It is done!!!!!


47 posted on 09/10/2004 5:32:49 AM PDT by truthandlife (http://www.neverforgetneveragain.com -- If you want Bush re-elected pass on this video link!!!!)
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To: All
Go to ratherbiased.com and subscribe to their e-mail newsletter. You will get between 1-3 reports per week detailing the blatant bias and frequent lies propagated by Ran Rather and C-BS.
48 posted on 09/10/2004 5:33:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (Let's hear about your Senate record already, John!)
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To: FreedomPoster
I was wondering about that. ;-)

LOL - major senior moment.

I guess the thought of possibly driving into Ivan on Monday has taken its toll.

:-)

Backhoe does it again - isn't he great?

49 posted on 09/10/2004 5:33:39 AM PDT by dansangel ("Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide. " - Zell Miller)
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To: FreedomPoster
Many thanks. Freepers are the greatest! The go the extra mile! Or should I say they go to the nth degree.
50 posted on 09/10/2004 5:36:31 AM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free)
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