Posted on 09/10/2004 11:09:40 AM PDT by aft_lizard
James Rosen just reported that the Pentagon questions the use of a PO Box on a memo, and that the PO Box may never have been used by that unit saying it seems highly unlikely that they would have PO Box containing sequential numbers. Standard military practice has always been to place the actual physical address on the letter head.
This is really getting good. Ha-ha-ha!
If I'm not mistaken, it was box 34567... "That's the combination on my luggage!" -- Obscure SpaceBalls reference. :)
P. O. Box 234567 HangRather, Texas
PO Box 34567
I tried to read everything here yesterday. Did anyone catch this on FR? Pretty easy to overlook, but it does make the likelihood these are fake go up by logrithmic proportions..
Dan Rather: "If the PO Box was 12345, I would have questioned it!"
I knew "PO Box 34567" was suspicious...
To me, this is a stronger indication of a forgery than the whole proportional type business.
Not obsure to me, I love that movie. May the schwartz be with you.
I wondered about that. Perhaps the forger couldn't find the old address (presumably not a facility on an AFB or Federal land) so they whipped up something.
"Multiple inbounds, all points of the compass...VAMPIRE VAMPIRE VAMPIRE!"
bump
Too sweet. This is getting SOOOOOOO fun.
Next thing you know, there will be a memo out about how President Bush always had coffee while he watched Mr. Radar at the ANG station.
NOt just the sequential number, but any POBox at all.
FReepers have discussed the PO Box and the Zip Code ad naseum yesterday.
A point was raised by one FReeper that the PO Boxes back
in '72 and '73 would have been numbered from 001 to 999
with the last two digits of the zip code as a the fourth and fifth digit of the zip code.
Whoever forged these documents is pretty darn stupid.
I pinged you guys to this on the Rush thread!!
Awesome catch!
"Comb the desert!"
I asked this question earlier today and was directed to the thread from yesterday. The thread had several hundred posts so I didn't go through all of them. I'm glad this is being questioned. It looked unusual to me and seems to be something that could easily be verfied.
my new theory: these are faked so badly that they were originally an DNC internal parody/joke that someone took the wrong way and grabbed onto it as a "find".
Another item going into 'The Forger is a Moron' column...Honestly, it looks like this was done with no research, in about ten minutes. The docs passed through the Kerry Kampaign and through CBS over SIX WEEKS and NONE of them noticed a thing.
I'm not sure the Left could win this election if they really tried.
same to you fargin icehole
Somebody should ask DAN RATHER, IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE...........................
In fact, the letterhead must include the actual 'physical address' of the unit.
Hello fox?:
Go to the smithsonian and find the military curator and see if they have military typwriters from the era!
Is there a former quartermaster who would know what typewriters the military used in that era?
This is SO easy to investigate!
someone said yesterday that they saw this same address on docs from Bush to the ANG. Not sure if it was true, but it was allegedly checked out and found to be correct.
Great - the Pentagon is now involved...someone needs to be behind bars for forging FedGov documents!
I love that movie too! ("He shot my hair!")
I looked at this yesterday:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211150/posts?page=192#192
It seems that the P.O. Box is real, though I agree it seems more than weird that it is the "address of record" on the document.
SHes gone from suck to blow!
The lunatic liar who created these false documents is a Dead Man Walking. His fellow libs will turn on him like jackals turn on a wounded Jackal in their pack.
He/she/it should turn itself into the police and beg for police protection.
Edwards just challenged Bush to comment on this hoax. I guess he should be careful what he asks for because Bush can say that the Pentagan also believes Dan Rather mislead the voting public for personal ideological purposes.
Also all officer signature blocks on my documents carry a designation following their rank of TX ANG - that is missing form the CBS faked memos
I recall seeing a post or two yesterday questioning the PO box number. Were you one of those?
Something else that bugs me is that expression "running interference." Was that a common expression at the time?
Mmmmmmmmm...imploding Democrats.
I am mad.
How did they get my top secret password?
I thought the use of the Beverly Hills zip code was clever.
"Whoever forged these documents is pretty darn stupid."
Sure looks whoever did this is going to have to stand behind Dan Rather in the stupid line.
Yesterday was the best day on FR in a long time. It harkens back to the days of Quidum, blue dresses, DNA, the meaning of IS.
Definitely an A day!
I do, however, question the use of the number in early 1970s.
Proportional type is impossible with a typewriter. So is the centering that they did. Also the use of a lowercase 'L' for a one, which is just a way to trick MS Word into not superscripting '1st'. There is more evidence here of forgery than their was for murder at the OJ trail.
I suggested that yesterday, all they need to do is contact that unit and find out if they still have there old QM logs from that era, case solved.
Whoa! How'd I miss that!!??
It would've only been five, except the CIWS kept flip-flopping about which Harpoon to engage first (c8
My God! How stupid can they be? I mean six weeks and no one questioned this address which is the most obvious red flag of all. How bad did they have to want to run this to ignore it?
I checked this out. The same address appears on a legit Bush military form, but it is for the 147th Fighter Interceptor GROUP. While that might be real address for the Group, this same address on the fake Bush docs is at the top of the page for the SQUADRON. Why would the squadron have the same P.O. Box as the Group? Can any former ANG people help me out on this one? My units never used P.O. Boxes.
It just keeps on giving. In the meantime, John Kerry's 20 year record is again "lying low" and it's just back to just plain Bush-bashing.
sheesh tell the Pentagon to have someone check FR
http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/10-2_2000_Personnel_File.pdf
see page 16 of these official docs...zip is 77034 post office box 34567 is listed on letterhead...
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