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Attempt to dump [forced universal] mental screening fails
WorldNetDaily ^ | 10SEP04 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 09/10/2004 2:56:29 PM PDT by familyop

An amendment offered by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, in the House of Representatives yesterday that would have remove from an appropriations bill a new mandatory mental-health screening program for America's children failed by a vote of 95-315.

Paul's amendment would have removed the program from the Labor, HHS and Education Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 2005. Ninety-four Republicans and one Democrat sided with Paul, while 118 Republicans, 196 Democrats and one Independent voted against the amendment.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the New Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only for children but eventually for every American. The initiative came out of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.

Critics of the plan say it is a thinly veiled attempt by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and antipsychotic medication, and puts government in areas of Americans' lives where it does not belong.

As WND reported yesterday, Kent Snyder of the Paul-founded Liberty Committee argued strongly against the program:

"The real payoff for the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result – as we learned tragically with Ritalin – even when parents refuse."

The congressman, who is known for his strict adherence to the Constitution, wrote in a letter to his colleagues before the vote: "As you know, psychotropic drugs are increasingly prescribed for children who show nothing more than children's typical rambunctious behavior. Many children have suffered harmful effects from these drugs. Yet some parents have even been charged with child abuse for refusing to drug their children. The federal government should not promote national mental-health screening programs that will force the use of these psychotropic drugs such as Ritalin."

The New Freedom Commission found that "despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed" and recommended comprehensive mental-health screening for "consumers of all ages," including preschool children.

The commission said, "Each year, young children are expelled from preschools and childcare facilities for severely disruptive behaviors and emotional disorders."

Schools, the panel concluded, are in a "key position" to screen the 52 million students and 6 million adults who work at the schools.

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I ran the title of this one in a Free Republic search before posting.
1 posted on 09/10/2004 2:56:30 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

And this is the title I ran in the search. My editorial comment is in brackets, as is proper. WorldNetDaily is a popular publication, so I'm a little cautious about posting from it.

"Attempt to dump mental screening fails"


2 posted on 09/10/2004 2:59:05 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Admin Moderator

Uh oh! This is a dup after all. Someone already posted it under the subtitle (below). I searched with the main title. ...sorry.

"Rep. Ron Paul hoped to stop mandatory federal program for children"


3 posted on 09/10/2004 3:05:42 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
Chris Baker, a local talk show host on KPRC radio, had Dr. Paul on his show this afternoon talking about this bill. Chris pointed out how this is another step in the Communist Manifesto to put mental health professionals in charge of society. Dr. Paul pointed out how something like this can follow all of us in our records for something as simple as having religious beliefs against homosexuality or just being a Christian and holding Christian values or values of any kind that the professional evauluating you does not agree with. It needs to be STOPPED dead in its tracks.

Yet another good reason to get your kids out of government schools

4 posted on 09/10/2004 3:11:10 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: texgal

Here's the original, as posted under the subtitle. He forgot to post the title, and I forgot to post the subtitle. Unfortunately, he posted it so early, that it scrolled off the Free Republic front page before many had a chance to see it. Bookmark it. Get the news out to other publications. I hope that President Bush is elected, but I also hope very much that the "New Freedom Commission" (Orwellian) is shut down. I like Laura Bush very much, too, but her experience in public education was in places where one can afford to be a Pollyanna. Psych. professionals in most other parts of the country, as many of us have seen in their programs in the universities, are a bunch of control-obsessed kooks.

Rep. Ron Paul hoped to stop mandatory federal program for children
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211939/posts


5 posted on 09/10/2004 3:20:40 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: texgal
You betcha....the Soviets used "mental health" as the main excuse to fill up their Gulags...
If you didn't agree with the running of the country by those in power.....you had mental health problem
If you were an evangelical Christian...in a Marxist Atheist state....you had a mental health problem
If you did anything or said anything to offend one of these arrogant bass turds....you had a mental health problem...

All they needed was a couple of 'professionals' to say the word...you disappeared along with your property...as all human being are state property...to be disposed of as the state sees fit.

There is ONLY ONE REASON a state wants these kinds of laws on the books....

Once the pseudo scientists get hold of the system you are at their mercy...and their arbitrary codes of 'mental health' depending largely on their whims and pseudo science

The National Socialists loved this kind of power as did their International Bretheren so will their 3rd Way 4th Reich brothers....it usurps the Constitution...and can be done in the name of State or Homeland Security...

You can bet all they have to do to get rid of personal firearms...is to declare whomever they like unsuitable...they don't need to go after the firearms...just the conditions under which who can and who cannot own them...

Its a lovely NWO and there is only one man who can deliver conservatives to it.....only one man they trust who can convince them that it would be in their ultimate 'best' interest.. "The New Freedom Inititive"..sounds like something right out of Orwell or the office of State Security...they love these innocuous benevolent sounding names....to mask their intent..

In for a penny in for a pound

imo

6 posted on 09/10/2004 3:29:17 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Two Heads Are Better Than One...Unless They're On The Same Person -Andy Sipowicz)
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To: joesnuffy; texgal
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HZ00739:
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H.AMDT.739  (A024)
Amends: H.R.5006
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (offered 9/9/2004)

AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
An amendment numbered 3 printed in the Congressional Record to prohibit use of funds in the bill to create or implement any new or universal mental health screening program.

STATUS:

      9/9/2004 3:12pm:
          Amendment (A024) offered by Mr. Paul. (consideration: CR H6942-6944, H6953-6954; text: CR H6942-6943)
      9/9/2004 4:52pm:
          On agreeing to the Paul amendment (A024) Failed by recorded vote: 95 - 315 (Roll no. 438).

7 posted on 09/10/2004 4:03:55 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: texgal

"....... put mental health professionals in charge of society. "

We're almost there. Every "social service" in our government is stocked full of 'em. That and lawyers, which should scare hell out of all of us.


8 posted on 09/10/2004 4:52:26 PM PDT by JustAnotherSavage (If you don't like my peaches, don't shake my tree!)
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To: familyop
Ninety-four Republicans and one Democrat sided with Paul,

while 118 Republicans, 196 Democrats and one Independent voted against the amendment.

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All the Democrats (except one) think your children should be screened and drugged. This is so that they can better control them, so that the children will march in lock-step with their (liberal) ideas.

Only 1 Democrat thinks your children should not be screened and drugged. Who is he? He deserves recognition.

118 Republicans also want your children to be screened and drugged. Who are they? We need names.

9 posted on 09/10/2004 5:00:01 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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"118 Republicans also want your children to be screened and drugged. Who are they? We need names."

I'll make a deal with you. I'll furnish the names (below), if you'll help get the word out to the world now by way of major/minor publishing, column writing, blog, e-mail list, word of mouth or otherwise. I don't want Kerry for President. If this word gets out to everyone (everyone) late (which is what's in the works right now), Kerry will be the next President. If it gets out early, our President and other Republicans will find a way to permanently kill his ordered "initiative" and Commission. Then our Republican Campaign can recover and win.

Here's your answer. Our President started the Commission by Executive Order. The Bill (H.R. 5006) sends the first funding to it. So the names of those Republicans in favor of  universal, forced mental health screening follow.

President George Bush

  The following is a list of Republican representatives in the House who voted against the Ron Paul Amendment (Amendment to stop funding for "New Freedom Initiative" universal mental screening). You'll see a list of no-votes below it.

  All of the Democrats were "noes" or no-votes, except one who voted in favor of Ron Paul's Amendment, Taylor (MS).

  ...first, the "noes" (against Amendment to stop funding for "New Freedom Initiative," which seeks to eventually bring universal mental screenings, which will result in many new prescriptions for psychiatric medications for children). These are the bad guys, folks, and so are those on the list after the following.

Noes:

Alexander
Bachus
Baker
Barton (TX)
Bass
Beauprez
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bono
Bradley (NH)
Brown (SC)
Burr
Buyer
Calvert
Capito
Carter
Castle
Crenshaw
Cunningham
Davis, Tom
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dreier
Dunn
Ehlers
Emerson
English
Ferguson
Foley
Fossella
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Granger
Hall
Harris
Hastings (WA)
Hayworth
Hobson
Houghton
Hulshof
Hyde
Isakson
Issa
Jenkins
Johnson (CT)
Johnson, Sam
Keller
Kelly
King (NY)
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
LaHood
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
LoBiondo
McCrery
McHugh
McKeon
Mica
Murphy
Ney
Northup
Nunes
Nussle
Osborne
Oxley
Pearce
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Platts
Porter
Portman
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Regula
Rehberg
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Ros-Lehtinen
Saxton
Shaw
Shays
Sherwood
Shimkus
Simmons
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Sweeney
Taylor (NC)
Thomas
Tiberi
Turner (OH)
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (FL)

"Not Voting:"

Ballenger
Cannon
Goss
Greenwood
Istook
Lucas (OK)
McInnis
Moran (KS)
Nethercutt
Quinn
Schrock
Shuster
Tauzin
Toomey
Young (AK)


10 posted on 09/10/2004 5:36:16 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

BTW, to check my list of names against the list in the Roll Call, follow the following link.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll438.xml

The Republicans' names are in Roman font. The Democrats' names are in italics. The independent's (Democrat--same thing, IMO) name is underlined.


11 posted on 09/10/2004 5:40:19 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: texgal

And go out of state to have your children, because you will be required to have mental health screenings after you have a child in Illinois.

Their legislature slimed through the bill, with no discussion. The discussion came after they passed it.


12 posted on 09/10/2004 5:54:01 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: familyop

Illinois passed it, but a lot of people are not happy with it.

http://www.illinoisleader.com/news/newsview.asp?c=18658

Maybe I should write in Ron Paul for president. I'm not happy with this either.


13 posted on 09/10/2004 6:05:28 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: ladylib
"Maybe I should write in Ron Paul for president. I'm not happy with this either."

That would certainly send a message. If word could get out to enough of the populace, he would win the vote. Some of the Democrat and even teacher sites are already running rage pieces at Democrats who voted against Paul's Amendment (Amendment to stop universal screening).
14 posted on 09/10/2004 6:15:30 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
This is NOT good. Not good at ALL. My son had *issues* for a few years. (From ages 3-10) I knew that there was something wrong, but I refused to believe that the behavior was the problem. Instead, I took the mindset that the behavior was a symptom of a problem.

I was right. It took me many doctors, many tests, homeschooling, and (finally) a two-year migraine to pin-point the really cause of his hyperactivity and mild Autism-like symptoms. He's a Celiac. He gets drunk on wheat, oats, rye and barley. We stopped feeding him gluten products and I have a normal, sociable, healthy (except for the diabetes), well-adjusted young man.

I don't know what would've happened to him had I relented to the pressure to put him on behavior modifying medications. I'm so glad that he's mine!

15 posted on 09/11/2004 3:17:19 AM PDT by Marie (I want to be queeeeeen, just like like Hillary! 8 - ))
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To: Marie

You're a good mom. God bless you for perservering.


16 posted on 09/14/2004 9:59:12 PM PDT by Auntie Mame ("Whether you think you can or think you can't -- you are right." Henry Ford)
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Thank you, Auntie. The proof will be in the pudding.


17 posted on 09/14/2004 10:35:16 PM PDT by Marie (*shhhh!* The Liberals are sleeping....)
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