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Did the First Americans Come From, Er, Australia?
Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | Mon Sep 6, 9:24 AM ET | Editorial Staff

Posted on 09/11/2004 8:23:29 AM PDT by vannrox

Did the First Americans Come From, Er, Australia?

Mon Sep 6, 9:24 AM ET

EXETER, England (Reuters) - Anthropologists stepped into a hornets' nest on Monday, revealing research that suggests the original inhabitants of America may in fact have come from what is now known as Australia.


The claim will be extremely unwelcome to today's native Americans who came overland from Siberia and say they were there first.

But Silvia Gonzalez from John Moores University in Liverpool said skeletal evidence pointed strongly to this unpalatable truth and hinted that recovered DNA would corroborate it.

"This is very contentious," Gonzalez, a Mexican, said with a smile at the annual meeting of the British association for the Advancement of Science. "They (native Americans) cannot claim to have been the first people there."

She said there was very strong evidence that the first migration came from Australia via Japan and Polynesia and down the Pacific Coast of America.

Skulls of a people with distinctively long and narrow heads discovered in Mexico and California predated by several thousand years the more rounded features of the skulls of native Americans.

One particularly well preserved skull of a long-face woman had been carbon dated to 12,700 years ago, whereas the oldest accurately dated native American skull was only about 9,000 years old.

"We have extracted her DNA. It is going to be a bomb," she said, declining to give details but adding that the tests carried out so far were being replicated to make sure they were accurate.

She said there were tales from Spanish missionaries of an isolated coastal community of long-face people in Baja California of a completely different race and rituals from other communities in America at the time.

These last survivors were wiped out by diseases imported by the Spanish conquerors, Gonzalez said.

The research is one of 11 different projects in America, Africa, Asia and the Middle East being funded over a four-year period by Britain's Natural Environment Research Council.

The projects, focusing on diet, dating and dispersal of people down the millennia in the face of climate change, aim to rewrite anthropology.

"We want to make headlines from heads," said Professor Clive Gamble of Southampton university. "DNA will give us a completely new map of the world and how we peopled it."

TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ancient; biological; contested; dig; discovery; explore; find; found; history; man; new; past; unearthed; unusual; woman; wonder
1 posted on 09/11/2004 8:23:31 AM PDT by vannrox
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"Europeans" came over 16-18 thousand years ago as evidenced by spear point technology. We don't need you aussies and asians claiming to be the first, because the people who were in Europe before we were beat you to the Americas.

Nyaa Nyaa.
3 posted on 09/11/2004 8:35:17 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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4 posted on 09/11/2004 8:35:29 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Accepting the Piri Reis maps, Antarcia is shown without ice. Antarica is probably the Atlantis of legend. It may also be the home of ancient man. None of the dispersal theories and conflicts in man's age from China vs Africa are adequate explanations.

What excludes Anartica is the darwinism which prevails in thinking - slow evolutionary change vs cataclysm. The darwinist hold the seats of authority - professorships. But, they are wrong.

The Zuni's also have stories that might relate the the Phoenicians or Carthaginians (same people). These people controlled the sea lanes of the Mediterrean and beyond for 1000 years or more. They settled Sicily, Marsilles (Massilia), Southern Spain, North Africa...

5 posted on 09/11/2004 9:13:42 AM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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To: blam

What, no blam? ping

7 posted on 09/11/2004 10:45:53 AM PDT by Gothmog (The 2004 election won't be about what one did in the military, but on how one would use it)
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To: Cactuspete
If you can stand listening to Allan Alda . . .

Scientific American Frontiers

Coming Into America

premiered July 20th, 2004

"Were the First Americans European?" is the most pertinent.
8 posted on 09/11/2004 11:01:56 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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9 posted on 09/11/2004 11:02:55 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Did First Americans Come From, Er, Australia?

10 posted on 09/11/2004 11:44:23 AM PDT by blam
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There is a book of published black-and-white photographic images of southern California indigenous peoples taken circa 1900. I was surprised to see that most of the faces were entirely different from each other and some resembled Australian indigenous peoples.
There may be a copy of this volume at the Livermore Public Library in Livermore, California.


There are presently in the San Francisco Bay CA area several rock construction sites (12 foot-high walls buried to their tops) that stretch from along the hillsides from Orinda to San Jose for 30 miles which predate the native tribes arrival here thousands of years ago here and were chronicled by a missionary nun who interviewed the Ohlone tribes here centuries ago, published partially in the local newspaper, the 'Argus', of Hayward, CA circa 1986 with photos. Remnants of this wall may still be seen in back of The California State University campus at Hayward,CA and also next to a nearby housing development on "Barn Rock Road" (the farmers dug up the huge stones and used them as barn foundations.)

Also on Mt. Tamalpais just north of San Francisco there is a circular cairn of upright megaliths around which trees have grown and encompassed located on the western edge of "The Meadow".

There is also evidence in the eastern US in early French
construction engineers records of circa 1740's searching for suitable cliff faces to blast in order to obtain building stones for the forts they were building.

The local Iroquois captives from their Algonquin allies
said to the engineers, "There is already a cliff face that has been made into thousands of pieces."

Sure enough, the French engineers were directed to a cliff face that had thousands of 1-to-2 meter blocks
of granite apparently blasted out and laying in a neat
tumbled pile.
The Iroquois told the engineers that this huge pile was here before their ancestors had arrived here.

Directly across from this quarry is another rock face blasted out. Directly due east from the first cliff face an inverted trapezoid \___________/ 1 mile+ long has been cut into the 500 foot high mountaintops. On the spring solstice, the sun rises directly in the center of this trapezoid when view from high mountains directly to the west \____*o*_____/.

11 posted on 09/11/2004 1:43:38 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (whodunnit?)
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To: Prost1; All
The "slow" evolution model is in a word, wrong.
If one chooses to accept evolution, the only possible choice is punctuated equilibrium as opposed to linear evolution. Linear evolution would leave too many dead ends. The only positive aspect to linear is fewer "missing links".
The fossil record tends to lead that way as more than 1 type of "pseudo-human" existed simultaneously.
12 posted on 09/11/2004 2:09:13 PM PDT by olde north church (Ever see a photo of James Carville and Gollum standing next to each other?)
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To: Cactuspete

Read the book with caution. There is much to support an Austrailian southern entry.

BTW, the Navajo can understand a Mongol language still spoken in one of their "remote" provinces. Remote is " " because the whole country is "".

13 posted on 09/11/2004 3:10:17 PM PDT by Prost1 (Why isn't Berger in jail?)
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To: vannrox

John Miller of National Review, commented on the Kennewick Man controversy (a few years ago): ancient America was possibly and very probably a far more colorful place than the postmodern liberal (with all of his political correctness, multiculturalism and "anti-racism") is willing to admit.

14 posted on 09/12/2004 9:04:37 PM PDT by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, Gullible's Troubles! Steal the wealth, spread the poverty.)
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