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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA: We are NOT Amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 09/11/2004 9:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Open Letter to the Main Stream Media: We are not amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

We have watched you for years try to tell us how to think, what to think, who to vote for and what to believe based solely on your own agenda. In past years, you have come to think of yourselves as the fourth branch of government, the movers and shapers of opinion and the arbiters of truth.

In case you have not been watching, America is sick and tired of you. We are turning away from you in record numbers. Your audience and readership is declining faster than you can say the word 'bias', and instead of recognizing the trend, you have only become further entrenched and determined to force society to play by your rules.

Technology has allowed us to ignore you, and in many cases, replace you altogether. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite every night, not yet aware of his agenda, his bias and his overwhelming desire to turn the nation against its leaders unless they agreed with him. I saw him replaced by the most dishonest, agenda-driven anchorman this nation has ever produced. That Dan Rather is one of you should be enough to make you feel dirty.

You believe yourselves to be solely qualified to pontificate on the day-to-day events going on around the world as if journalism school gives you a special insight into the truth. When I was in college, people went to J-school only if they flunked out of business school and did not want to become teachers.

Well guess what?

The world is on to you.

Persons with knowledge and experience are not only ignoring you, but replacing you as sources of information. These sources, which don't need anything but their personal experiences and skills when sharing information with the public; persons who have spent more time learning and doing than you ever will, are generally more accurate and informative than you know how to be.

The Internet and Blogosphere would scare you, if you were smart enough or honest enough to know better.

People with practical knowledge and experience discussing current and historical events with more ability than you, are sharing more factual and in-depth information, and at a rate which you could never compete. We are relegating many of you to overpaid gossip mongers, while you don't want to acknowledge that we are eating your lunch.

You take polls, trying to convince us of what people are thinking as you have always done, but now, knowledgeable people are analyzing your methodology, your weighing and sampling and pointing out if your polls are to be believed. You can no longer expect what you say to be taken for gospel, because we are no longer amateurs about information. Someone, somewhere on a little web site is going to smoke you out, report your biases, and make you less believable than you once were. Count on it.

You can tell us that Swift Boat Veterans for truth are liars, and NOBODY is going to believe you just because you say it. Have you checked the Non Fiction Best Sellers lists lately? But even then, we know enough now to notice when book sales are based on giveaways, fund-raisers, pre-orders and the like, to notice when you want to push sales of your favorite liberal author when their book sheds no light, tells no truth, shares no facts, but only advances what you want us all to think about you and yours. We are not buying it anymore.

I'm writing this, because I know you are watching. Just as you watched last week when one of us 'amateurs' beat you at your own game. It happens here all the time. Free Republic is not a group of 'amateurs' or nutcases, as you like to think of us. This board is a slice of America, filled with people from all walks of life, whose cumulative knowledge dwarfs that of you and your 'hired experts'. I was offended to read your reaction to people here and at the Blogs who shared what started here regarding your fraudulent flunky Dan Rather, and his attempt to pass off what was clearly a forged document as legitimate news.

You attempted to deride us, not take us seriously, dismiss us as partisans (which is apparently only a bad thing if one is conservative) and generally ignore the wealth of information we passed along to the public about one of yours trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We nailed Dan Rather, not you, and you can't stand it.

Last week, you tried to suggest that Republicans booed Bill Clinton after Bush wished him well. We caught you. We got in your face and made you take it back, because you lied. Don't you hate that? We Internet-based losers made you back down, when you felt totally free to mislead the nation about the behavior of some you don't agree with.

It is only going to get worse for you.

You can no longer tell us anything, and expect to be believed without question. You can no longer mix your agendas into your 'news' and expect to get away with it. We may not catch you every time, but eventually we will, and then many of you are going to have to get real jobs. And when you do, you are going to need more than the ability to mislead, lie, slander and ignore people who don't agree with you. In the future, expect for Blogs like Instapundit and others to be on you like a fly on stink when you attempt to mislead us.

Yesterday, you attempted to paint the young LT. Bush as a poor pilot, because he attempted multiple landings a few times while flying a training jet. Stories like this are the reason why Network News has lost half of its audience over the last 10 years. Could not one of you pampered info-princes figure out that a military pilot WANTS to practice landings as much has he/she possibly can? I guess not, when you are blinded by ideology to the degree that any information you receive can only be interpreted in the negative.

You want to call Bush AWOL, but you don't want to talk about his hundreds of flying hours in a jet that has killed lesser aviators, you only want to discuss what furthers your agenda, because you know that when Democrats win, YOU are in charge. You don't want to talk about our President's Master's Degree from Harvard while at the same time Al Gore could not hack Divinity school.

Don't you wish you could regulate us? We know you spend your nights praying to the gods of the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence us. Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere. Too bad we can't say the same for you. It is you who is being silenced as your audience is paying more attention to us, and tuning you OUT. Fox News is in 50 million fewer homes, but they managed to beat you silly during the Republican Convention. How did that happen? US; that's how. Because of us, the Internet, the Blogosphere, Talk Radio and others, the nation no longer see you as the gatekeepers of information.

Take a lesson MSM, though it hurts, try a little fairness. Give balance a shot, and stop being a mouthpiece for the liberal agenda. Pretend if you must, that Conservatives are not Neanderthals long enough to get through a news segment. I know it must hurt to not be able to prove your superiority to us in all that you do and say, but try it.

Finally, just embrace the horror, folks. You might actually learn something from us merry bands of 'amateur' journalists. You see, we don't have an audience to please. We don't have to sell ad-space, or get face-lifts to keep our jobs. That leaves us free to share information on the subjects we might know a little something about without angering our liberal masters. On Free Republic, you can at times find as many threads angry at Republicans as you can Democrats. We don't have to hire experts, if we don't know something, we can ask a fellow FReeper or use Google, much faster than you can pay someone to tell you what you want to hear.

On Free Republic alone, there are experts in many fields. We have writers, poets, engineers, aviators, artists, journalists, (they keep that on the down-low), lawyers, historians, teachers, politicians, current and former members of all branches of the military; all who actually know what they are talking about without having a script (or DNC talking points) shoved in their face.

The choice is yours, MSM. You can join us in working to share information with a hungry audience, or you can be replaced. We don't need Nielson, just a web site and an idea. Instead of insulting the remainder of your dwindling viewers, readers and listeners, why don't you just agree to cut the crap, stop the parroting of the NY Times long enough to do your own work, and finally decide to become REAL journalists again.

I'm not saying we are journalists; we have jobs and careers beyond 'he-said-she-said'. We do like to share what we know, and we don't even get it right every time. However, the truth is in the numbers. We have them and they are growing, while yours are shrinking more rapidly every day. If you don't change your ways and soon, you are going to become irrelevant before this decade is over. Many of you already are. We only tune in to 'Petah' Jennings to watch him bravely strain to keep his composure whenever he has to report a Democrat election defeat. On a good night Chris Matthews total viewership barely equals the number of viewers on the Oxygen network.

The trends are in our favor. If you don't wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.

I'm Pukin Dog.


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To: Pukin Dog

I feel the white hot heat of your rant. I've been there. Well done!!!!

Ding dong the witch is dead the wicked old media is dead.

Yeah!!!

Long live FR!!!


151 posted on 09/11/2004 7:59:38 PM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm in.

Great job. Thanks.

152 posted on 09/11/2004 7:59:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Pukin Dog

153 posted on 09/11/2004 8:00:14 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Yes, there's still time to buy my book.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Gotta Love it....Freepers have PASSION.....for the truth and for life........God Bless W!!!!!!!!!!


154 posted on 09/11/2004 8:00:42 PM PDT by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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To: Pukin Dog

As a former journalist who had to go into politics because I was blackballed by liberal puke editors, I appreciated your RANT!

Also... tonight on Fox Media Watch, Jim Pinkerton pointed out that bloggers and conservative internet junkies use "MTM" as a derisive term. (By the way, I'm in my pajamas too!)


155 posted on 09/11/2004 8:00:56 PM PDT by rabidbushie (Kerry, Rather and CBS are toast. Next up, NBC and Kitty Kelley.)
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To: Pukin Dog

BRAVO !!!
They can't run and they can't hide !!!
Great post !


156 posted on 09/11/2004 8:01:08 PM PDT by Thinkin
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To: Pukin Dog

Wow, your rant is pretty much the same thing I wrote to Newswatch tonight, only I had to be brief. I hope you don't mind if I spread your rant around a bit.


157 posted on 09/11/2004 8:01:12 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Pukin Dog

That's a beautiful rant and better than anything running on the op/ed page of 90% of mainstream papers tomorrow morning.

Bite it, Danny!


158 posted on 09/11/2004 8:01:13 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (What freakin' frequency are you on, Kenneth...NPR?)
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To: lionstar
Welcome to FR. :)

What kind of films do you make?

159 posted on 09/11/2004 8:01:28 PM PDT by Free Trapper (Terrorism is the Black Heart of Islam,not the fringe!)
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To: Pukin Dog
Hey, I was going to tell them the very same thing, except I was going to call them A-holes. LOL I for one never watch the alphabet channels anymore but maybe for a football game etc. Specifically not for any news. Internet and FOX is my home base now.
160 posted on 09/11/2004 8:01:31 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: Pukin Dog

Fantastic. I should share the letters I got from Seth Borenstein, the Knight Ridder writer who passed on the bogus story about the "booing" in Milwaukee. The AP hasn't given me the courtesy of an answer yet -- and I'm not holding my breath. Neither has the original author returned my phone call.

The essence of Seth Borenstein's answer was that he made an "honest" mistake and corrected it later. To my righteous indignation (I was at the event standing about 10 feet in front of the President) he said that there is a difference in relying upon the word of a single person vs. relying on an old time news organization such as the AP. Barf!

And he made some cheap shots against some "internet group that likes to criticize the press." He went on to say that inclusion of the "booing" incident was just an attempt to balance his assertion that Kerry had announced Clinton's hospitalization and that the audience had applauded.

borenstein said he just picked up a "nugget" from the AP. In other words, he did not double check his source, which he should have. The very statement should have caused his antennae to go up; and he should have checked it further, but he relied on the AP. He was writing from Washington on the medical aspects of the story -- the "booing" part was non-essential and didn't even belong in the story, even if it had been true.


161 posted on 09/11/2004 8:01:42 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Our first great victory will be the downfall of Dan Rather.

If not for the fact that I have crossed paths with OJ twice and his poor son once in the last year I would be more optimistic.

OJ was talking up a brunette sitting next to me about "dinner in Coral Gables".

These people stick together.

162 posted on 09/11/2004 8:02:16 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: doug from upland

Honored to get a song from you, buddy.


163 posted on 09/11/2004 8:02:26 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Duh....forgot to post the e-mail.

When the printing press was invented and the Bible became readily available, the priests could no longer hold control over the people. When the old media (newspapers, radio, TV) came into being, it controlled and shaped what news people received. The invention of the computer (thank you Al Gore) has caused a seismic shift in the way the ordinary citizen accesses the news. The old media has buried its head in the sand and refused to recognize that it is no longer relevant. Lately I am amazed at the lack of knowledge exhibited by the talking heads. The question that reporters need to answer is this: Who is more likely to dig up the truth of a subject, one reporter or thousands of reporters from around the world? It's a new world that can't be hoodwinked by spin. Long live the bloggers.

164 posted on 09/11/2004 8:03:09 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Pukin Dog

Did you see that condescending main stream media puke on Tony Snow sits in for Oreilly last night?

He just kept up this grin throughout the words of a blog spokesperson.

His grin told me all I needed to know. He thought the world was stupid and he was the source of all knowledge.

Tony was weak last night, imho.


165 posted on 09/11/2004 8:03:17 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: rabidbushie
...tonight on Fox Media Watch, Jim Pinkerton pointed out...

Oh goody! I'll catch the re-run tomorrow AM.

166 posted on 09/11/2004 8:03:39 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: Pukin Dog
Here's the letter I sent to Fox News tonight:

Eric:

On your program tonight, Neal Gabler suggested that perhaps Dan Rather & CBS were trying to be fair, and provide equal time to counter the coverage allowed for the Swift Vets. Would you please ask Neal, if Rather & CBS are trying to be fair, why then in 1997, they found it newsworthy to attack Colonel David Hackworth over the medals he had listed on his website, yet they've totally ignored the allegations from the Swift Boat Vets regarding the medals that John Kerry earned? Why is it that the media was so willing to believe the second and third-hand tales of war atrocities from John Kerry in April of 1971? They accepted those tales as truth, despite the fact that Kerry never served with any of the men whose stories he told. Yet the press has refused to even consider the possibility that the Swift Vets, many of whom served within feet and yards of John Kerry on a daily basis, might be telling the truth?

The main stream media creates the lies, spreads them as truths, and perpetuates those lies. Dan Rather & CBS are prime examples of this. The public is fed up with the hypocritical, biased coverage presented as news today. They're also tired of today's journalists arbitrarily deciding which stories will be investigated & reported, and whose record will and won't be scrutinized.

George W. Bush signed Form 180 to release all his military records to the public. John Kerry refuses to sign Form 180. You tell me which man has something to hide.

And here's Dan Rather crying on David Letterman after he learns he's been terminated:


167 posted on 09/11/2004 8:03:47 PM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: Pukin Dog
"If you don’t wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass. "

Correction: asses

168 posted on 09/11/2004 8:04:18 PM PDT by The Doctor (all your ass is belong to us!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Right ON ! Your excellent essay is the voice of the new media speaking truth to the old media. The old media is dying because it is locked into liberal lies. The new media is living and growing and flourishing because it is free to speak the truth.


169 posted on 09/11/2004 8:04:55 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: B Knotts

Exactly - It's Free News.


170 posted on 09/11/2004 8:04:56 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't confuse disagreement with argumentation.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Well said!


171 posted on 09/11/2004 8:05:04 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Congressman Billybob

Perfect analogy, CBB!


172 posted on 09/11/2004 8:05:16 PM PDT by Budge (<><)
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To: Pukin Dog

bump


173 posted on 09/11/2004 8:05:45 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (Cevapcici and Slivovitz......for everyone)
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To: mass55th
Excellent.
174 posted on 09/11/2004 8:05:48 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Memo to CBS, 60 Minutes and Dan Rather:

You're doing a fantastic job! Keep up the good work. Don't give in to a bunch of Radicals. Igore all the opposition and throttle on full steam ahead. There are a lot of folks counting on you so hang in there. Move towards the light.

Watch out for that oncoming FReight train!

175 posted on 09/11/2004 8:06:19 PM PDT by slimer ("The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato)
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To: Ciexyz
That was my Daddy's war. He's gone now

Sorry to hear that. I'm lucky that my both my father (Navy, convoy duty) and uncle (2nd Armour), both WW2 vets are still around. Both despise the liberal democrats and the MSM. They are often fascinated with my stories about the goings on here on the Free Republic.

Help is on the way I tell them.

176 posted on 09/11/2004 8:06:37 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-za)
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To: Pukin Dog
Persons with knowledge and experience are not only ignoring you, but replacing you as sources of information.

They just become one of many and their past and biases are exposed by all as they present an article. Instead of being the only source, they are marginalized and have to compete not only with the other two, but cable, the world media, the experts at FR, and the Net, all which can be reached with the click of a mouse. That is why FR is so addictive.

The era of three views of the world are over.

I do miss the kind of family part of gathering together at the end of the day and thinking: what happened today. Now its instantaneous and makes us all kind of neurotic.

Great post.
177 posted on 09/11/2004 8:06:44 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Peach
This exercise has led Team Kerry to one important corrollary conclusion. They now know for absolute certain beyond any doubt that they never, ever want to sign the 180 to release all the documents.

We've proven to them that we will examine those docs with the finest of tooth combs (wait a minute, those are supposed to be combs with the finest teeth, not tooth combs) and find every error and fraudulent jot and tittle in them.

No, there is no way Kerry signs a 180 now.

178 posted on 09/11/2004 8:07:07 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Pukin Dog

I loved this so much that it made me cry.


179 posted on 09/11/2004 8:07:16 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Pukin Dog

EXCELLENT rant, Pukin Dog. Most excellent. I'm standing tall, right next to you.


180 posted on 09/11/2004 8:07:16 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Become a monthly donor to FR!! $5 per Freeper...and you'll never be bugged again)
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To: FairOpinion
One of the MSM defenders, I forget who, impuned the bloggers and internet posters the other day "just a bunch of guys in their bathrobes sitting at their computers".

It was Jonathan Klein, he said we sit at our computers in pajamas thinking we are experts ... Steven Hayes called it a cheap shot and insulting to a lot of folks..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96207,00.html

We’ll examine the issue with Stephen Hayes of The Weekly Standard and Jonathan Klein, former executive vice president of CBS News and founder of FeedRoom.com.

181 posted on 09/11/2004 8:07:20 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Pukin Dog
None of the great reporters of the past went to Journalism School. They were adventurers, hustlers, novelists and poets, just trying to make a buck and tell the truth.

With the inflation of reporting from a job to a profession, pomposity and hypocrisy became the most important talent.

With the blogosphere, we can find all the news ourselves, we no longer need anyone to bring it to us or interpret it for us.

Forget the talking points and practice "You want fries with that?" because your career is obsolete.

So9

182 posted on 09/11/2004 8:07:39 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Rome2000
I haven't read all the other posts yet....but, I'd say this has been the first.....

INTERNET INFO-TEA PARTY

183 posted on 09/11/2004 8:07:41 PM PDT by goodnesswins (VICTORY...........brings peace.)
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To: microgood

To paraphrase Triumph, "The Old Media is great-for me to be PUKIN on!"


184 posted on 09/11/2004 8:07:51 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (It's about the forgery, stupid.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Awesome rant!
Pajama FReeping bump!

Who knew Algore's little invention
would eventually be the MSM and
'Rats undoing?


185 posted on 09/11/2004 8:08:43 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I just emailed your rant to Hugh Hewitt, suggesting he read a portion of it on his show this coming week.


186 posted on 09/11/2004 8:08:49 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Pukin Dog

Good piece, and right,too


187 posted on 09/11/2004 8:08:55 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Pukin Dog

Wow...That was good. You have given the MSM fair warning.


188 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:09 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Actually, upwards of half of all the participants on FreeRepublic have some journalistic experience. Mine began on the Yale Daily News. It is a permanent disease that repeats from time to time -- like malaria.

Billybob

189 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:09 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: The Doctor
Correction: asses

Sorry, I tend to see them as one amorphous blob of bias with one fat ass.

190 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:17 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
I wanted to stand and cheer as I read your words.

If this beautifully written letter is a 'rant', then I want MORE!

How I wish this could be placed in front of Dan, Tom, Peter, Katie colic, Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, matt lauer, charley gibson, and on and on as required reading.

Your piece of work is a REAL PIECE OF ART! Signed, sealed and (sure hope it gets) delivered!

191 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:24 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: airborne

Free Republic is like an open forum where the best and the brightest minds gather to discuss ways to make the world a better place.

The Media Machine is a closed space where the most manipulative and most charming gather to discuss ways to make the world a better place for them and no-one else.


192 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:50 PM PDT by Bandaneira (There is objective truth in the universe !)
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To: Pukin Dog

"Don’t you wish you could regulate us?"

McCain-Feingold sure is trying to regulate us. With the 60-day gag rule, the news media slides right into the driver's seat. Maybe there should be some additional "equal-time" rules:

1) For every piece of feces thrown at one candidate, and equal amount of feces must be thrown at the other candidate.

2) Media must practice due diligence to ensure that forged, false, or otherwise inaccurate feces is not used in "reporting".

3) "Fair and Balanced" must be practiced, and not just on Fox.


193 posted on 09/11/2004 8:10:08 PM PDT by SERKIT (Firefighters 4 Bush!)
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To: Pukin Dog

The MSM MUST exist....there are a LOT of people with IQ's UNDER 90!! What else would they watch???


194 posted on 09/11/2004 8:10:21 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mass55th

Are you following me? LOL


195 posted on 09/11/2004 8:10:40 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: xzins
He thought the world was stupid and he was the source of all knowledge.

These guys are still sore that it was a "Internet Guy, Matt Drudge" that broke the story about Monica's dress proving that one of their heroes, Bill Clinton was a liar and that Hillary (vast right wing conspiracy) was a fool.

196 posted on 09/11/2004 8:11:17 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-za)
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To: Pukin Dog
That's one of the best items written here in sometime.

Well done Dog!

197 posted on 09/11/2004 8:11:18 PM PDT by Don Munn
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To: Pukin Dog

You rock! I would love to see you take over for Dan RaTHer on the MSM.
Thank you !


198 posted on 09/11/2004 8:11:20 PM PDT by luckybutts
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To: Mr. K

Man...I use NOTHING on that pitiful list except Campbell's soup.....but I can buy Progresso.


199 posted on 09/11/2004 8:11:27 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pukin Dog

YOU speak for ME!!!! (Well, but, you said it better than I could have!) THANKS!!!! We needed this!!!!


200 posted on 09/11/2004 8:12:02 PM PDT by goodnesswins (VICTORY...........brings peace.)
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