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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA: We are NOT Amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 09/11/2004 9:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Open Letter to the Main Stream Media: We are not amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

We have watched you for years try to tell us how to think, what to think, who to vote for and what to believe based solely on your own agenda. In past years, you have come to think of yourselves as the fourth branch of government, the movers and shapers of opinion and the arbiters of truth.

In case you have not been watching, America is sick and tired of you. We are turning away from you in record numbers. Your audience and readership is declining faster than you can say the word 'bias', and instead of recognizing the trend, you have only become further entrenched and determined to force society to play by your rules.

Technology has allowed us to ignore you, and in many cases, replace you altogether. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite every night, not yet aware of his agenda, his bias and his overwhelming desire to turn the nation against its leaders unless they agreed with him. I saw him replaced by the most dishonest, agenda-driven anchorman this nation has ever produced. That Dan Rather is one of you should be enough to make you feel dirty.

You believe yourselves to be solely qualified to pontificate on the day-to-day events going on around the world as if journalism school gives you a special insight into the truth. When I was in college, people went to J-school only if they flunked out of business school and did not want to become teachers.

Well guess what?

The world is on to you.

Persons with knowledge and experience are not only ignoring you, but replacing you as sources of information. These sources, which don't need anything but their personal experiences and skills when sharing information with the public; persons who have spent more time learning and doing than you ever will, are generally more accurate and informative than you know how to be.

The Internet and Blogosphere would scare you, if you were smart enough or honest enough to know better.

People with practical knowledge and experience discussing current and historical events with more ability than you, are sharing more factual and in-depth information, and at a rate which you could never compete. We are relegating many of you to overpaid gossip mongers, while you don't want to acknowledge that we are eating your lunch.

You take polls, trying to convince us of what people are thinking as you have always done, but now, knowledgeable people are analyzing your methodology, your weighing and sampling and pointing out if your polls are to be believed. You can no longer expect what you say to be taken for gospel, because we are no longer amateurs about information. Someone, somewhere on a little web site is going to smoke you out, report your biases, and make you less believable than you once were. Count on it.

You can tell us that Swift Boat Veterans for truth are liars, and NOBODY is going to believe you just because you say it. Have you checked the Non Fiction Best Sellers lists lately? But even then, we know enough now to notice when book sales are based on giveaways, fund-raisers, pre-orders and the like, to notice when you want to push sales of your favorite liberal author when their book sheds no light, tells no truth, shares no facts, but only advances what you want us all to think about you and yours. We are not buying it anymore.

I'm writing this, because I know you are watching. Just as you watched last week when one of us 'amateurs' beat you at your own game. It happens here all the time. Free Republic is not a group of 'amateurs' or nutcases, as you like to think of us. This board is a slice of America, filled with people from all walks of life, whose cumulative knowledge dwarfs that of you and your 'hired experts'. I was offended to read your reaction to people here and at the Blogs who shared what started here regarding your fraudulent flunky Dan Rather, and his attempt to pass off what was clearly a forged document as legitimate news.

You attempted to deride us, not take us seriously, dismiss us as partisans (which is apparently only a bad thing if one is conservative) and generally ignore the wealth of information we passed along to the public about one of yours trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We nailed Dan Rather, not you, and you can't stand it.

Last week, you tried to suggest that Republicans booed Bill Clinton after Bush wished him well. We caught you. We got in your face and made you take it back, because you lied. Don't you hate that? We Internet-based losers made you back down, when you felt totally free to mislead the nation about the behavior of some you don't agree with.

It is only going to get worse for you.

You can no longer tell us anything, and expect to be believed without question. You can no longer mix your agendas into your 'news' and expect to get away with it. We may not catch you every time, but eventually we will, and then many of you are going to have to get real jobs. And when you do, you are going to need more than the ability to mislead, lie, slander and ignore people who don't agree with you. In the future, expect for Blogs like Instapundit and others to be on you like a fly on stink when you attempt to mislead us.

Yesterday, you attempted to paint the young LT. Bush as a poor pilot, because he attempted multiple landings a few times while flying a training jet. Stories like this are the reason why Network News has lost half of its audience over the last 10 years. Could not one of you pampered info-princes figure out that a military pilot WANTS to practice landings as much has he/she possibly can? I guess not, when you are blinded by ideology to the degree that any information you receive can only be interpreted in the negative.

You want to call Bush AWOL, but you don't want to talk about his hundreds of flying hours in a jet that has killed lesser aviators, you only want to discuss what furthers your agenda, because you know that when Democrats win, YOU are in charge. You don't want to talk about our President's Master's Degree from Harvard while at the same time Al Gore could not hack Divinity school.

Don't you wish you could regulate us? We know you spend your nights praying to the gods of the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence us. Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere. Too bad we can't say the same for you. It is you who is being silenced as your audience is paying more attention to us, and tuning you OUT. Fox News is in 50 million fewer homes, but they managed to beat you silly during the Republican Convention. How did that happen? US; that's how. Because of us, the Internet, the Blogosphere, Talk Radio and others, the nation no longer see you as the gatekeepers of information.

Take a lesson MSM, though it hurts, try a little fairness. Give balance a shot, and stop being a mouthpiece for the liberal agenda. Pretend if you must, that Conservatives are not Neanderthals long enough to get through a news segment. I know it must hurt to not be able to prove your superiority to us in all that you do and say, but try it.

Finally, just embrace the horror, folks. You might actually learn something from us merry bands of 'amateur' journalists. You see, we don't have an audience to please. We don't have to sell ad-space, or get face-lifts to keep our jobs. That leaves us free to share information on the subjects we might know a little something about without angering our liberal masters. On Free Republic, you can at times find as many threads angry at Republicans as you can Democrats. We don't have to hire experts, if we don't know something, we can ask a fellow FReeper or use Google, much faster than you can pay someone to tell you what you want to hear.

On Free Republic alone, there are experts in many fields. We have writers, poets, engineers, aviators, artists, journalists, (they keep that on the down-low), lawyers, historians, teachers, politicians, current and former members of all branches of the military; all who actually know what they are talking about without having a script (or DNC talking points) shoved in their face.

The choice is yours, MSM. You can join us in working to share information with a hungry audience, or you can be replaced. We don't need Nielson, just a web site and an idea. Instead of insulting the remainder of your dwindling viewers, readers and listeners, why don't you just agree to cut the crap, stop the parroting of the NY Times long enough to do your own work, and finally decide to become REAL journalists again.

I'm not saying we are journalists; we have jobs and careers beyond 'he-said-she-said'. We do like to share what we know, and we don't even get it right every time. However, the truth is in the numbers. We have them and they are growing, while yours are shrinking more rapidly every day. If you don't change your ways and soon, you are going to become irrelevant before this decade is over. Many of you already are. We only tune in to 'Petah' Jennings to watch him bravely strain to keep his composure whenever he has to report a Democrat election defeat. On a good night Chris Matthews total viewership barely equals the number of viewers on the Oxygen network.

The trends are in our favor. If you don't wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.

I'm Pukin Dog.


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KEYWORDS: bias; blogs; cbs; cronkite; danrather; davidosborne; documents; fake; forged; larryking; lies; media; mediabias; mediawingofthednc; msm; napalminthemorning; pukindogrocks; rathergate
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To: Bandaneira

My name is 'airborne' and I'm a FReepaholic.


251 posted on 09/11/2004 8:26:41 PM PDT by airborne (2/504 PIR - 'Devils In Baggy Pants')
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To: Pukin Dog
Bravo, Pukin Dog! The revolution is on!

By the way, there was a thread floating around yesterday that was urging the writing of a New Media Manifesto. I think you might have written it.

252 posted on 09/11/2004 8:26:52 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Pukin Dog
It needed sayin PD !..........Well done , bookmarked !.

Stay safe !

253 posted on 09/11/2004 8:27:19 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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BUMP!

Rather Authentic

254 posted on 09/11/2004 8:27:27 PM PDT by Quicksilver (I finally have a reason to like Microsoft Word.)
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To: Semper911
"He's not that kind of a pukin dog. He's THIS kind:"

Thank goodness!

255 posted on 09/11/2004 8:27:29 PM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: Pukin Dog
One criticism

OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA

They are NOT the Main Stream Media anymore. WE are the Main Stream Media. They are the Old Media or Dinosaur Media or Democratic Party Propaganda Branch but they lost the Main Stream title last week.

FR rules.

256 posted on 09/11/2004 8:28:51 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: prisoner6

This story and the attribution to FR really set 'em back on their heels! Never, EVER have they become so quiet, so intimidated...so deeply saddened.

$$$$$


Your story needs to be in a special section called "Highlights and Firsts at FreeRepublic."

Is there a historian/librarian in the house?


257 posted on 09/11/2004 8:29:08 PM PDT by maica (W is for Winner)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Pukin Dog

Good post from each of you.

The 2nd American Revolution has begun!

To the Old Media:

You lack the moral authority to dictate Truth.

Your credibility is gone.

You can say the Swift Vets have been discredited, we'll present evidence it is Kerry that has been discredited

You can say Barbara Bush is a practicing witch, we'll read that statement by Sharon denying being a source.

You can say we were 'misled' about the Iraq war, we will point you to the multiple reasons action in Iraq was necessary and the world community pledging agreement on their resolutions.

You can say G.W. was selected not elected, we can demonstrate the illegal act of the Florida court supporting the Dems attempt to selectively count Dem districts to turn out fraudulent votes to put Gore over the top. We can point out your aid in announcing Florida for Gore, before the entire state had voted.

You can say under Clinton we experienced a time of unmatched peace and prosperity, we can point to multiple terrorists attacks against our country & the revealed corporate fraud and recession that begun before Clinton left office.

You can say those killing our soldiers are 'freedom fighters', we'll spit in your face and call them what they are- murderers.

You can say you are relevant, we say with the abundance of discussion forums, blogs, and talk radio connecting us in real time to the events of the day, that you are the dinosaur.

You can say we need you, we say YOU need us to validate your self worth.


258 posted on 09/11/2004 8:29:44 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: maica

I think he puttin on his jammies...the official FR uniform..


259 posted on 09/11/2004 8:30:24 PM PDT by LuvMyRedneck
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To: LuvMyRedneck

I like it..a Freeper uniform!
XXX and black, please!

Also, I already have my own source for cowboy hats to go with the outfit. ;>)


260 posted on 09/11/2004 8:31:14 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Pukin Dog

Bravo! Very nice post.


261 posted on 09/11/2004 8:31:42 PM PDT by octobersky
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent


262 posted on 09/11/2004 8:31:56 PM PDT by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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To: Ichneumon; Admin Moderator
Cant sleep, too keyed up.

The fact is, upon re-reading this, and with some constructive comments, I have noticed so many grammatical errors, I am somewhat embarrassed.

I'm hoping since so many people liked the rant, that the Admin Moderator will correct my errors with my full support.

Just don't take out 'ass' please.

263 posted on 09/11/2004 8:32:52 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: writer33
Oh, man. I really didn't wanna know that you were in your pajamas. :)

I'll tell you a secret...

...I'm not in mine!   8-o

264 posted on 09/11/2004 8:32:54 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: All
I agree that the average person seems to be way ahead of these supposed reporters on TV. Another fine example was on display tonight as I watched Meet the Press. I had had enough and fired off this email:
Dear Mr. Russert, I am really embarassed for you, sir. I've just witnessed this interview with James Carville and you know very well the statistics of job loss after 9/11 - you also know the fact that we are helping the Iraqi people, that the brutal dictator of Saddam Hussein is in jail, and that we have made tremendous progress even though Al Qaeda is doing all they can to stop us, nonetheless an amazing amount of good has been done. For you to allow this bozo Mr. Carville to characterize the sacrifice of these good men & women as being totally worthless is highly offensive to me. I promise you one thing - I won't spend any more time watching your show. To allow your forum to be used for such a one sided presentation and distortion of the truth is truly disgraceful.
While an email from me isn't likely to be heard by anyone over at MSNBC, I can promise Mr. Russert 1 thing: I'll be cancelling out his vote with mine!
265 posted on 09/11/2004 8:33:58 PM PDT by sourdoughAK
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To: Nita Nupress
...tonight on Fox Media Watch, Jim Pinkerton pointed out...

Oh goody! I'll catch the re-run tomorrow AM.

Do you know what time that comes back on, by chance?

Heads up to all. I think it's on now.

266 posted on 09/11/2004 8:34:58 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Peach

This Pukin Dog is one very talented FReeper, isn't he? Nothing like that Pukin Dog_143 imposter. :o)


267 posted on 09/11/2004 8:35:14 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Darn good rant too.


268 posted on 09/11/2004 8:35:30 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: Peach
As I said on another thread today:

I am sick of the media/libs and their insanity.

They shun truth as a vampire shuns the light and project all of their vile tactics onto good and decent people.

They will no longer be allowed to get away with it and will be confronted consistantly and repeatedly everytime they spew their foul lies. We are not going to back down or be intimidated from speaking out. The days of their propaganda reigning supreme are over.

269 posted on 09/11/2004 8:35:50 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

First post for long time lurker. Have I died and gone to heaven? Swiftvets [over 30 yr wait for that payback]..now Pukin Dog, God Bless and thanks.


270 posted on 09/11/2004 8:37:00 PM PDT by boadecelia
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To: Gator113

Must have an Eagles Up! emblem on the jammy top...luv it!


271 posted on 09/11/2004 8:37:04 PM PDT by LuvMyRedneck
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To: Pukin Dog
In case you have not been watching, America is sick and tired of you.

Amen.

272 posted on 09/11/2004 8:38:01 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent. My sentiments exactly. Keep up the good work around here.Your all doing a fine job of keeping the liberals off balance. :)


273 posted on 09/11/2004 8:38:54 PM PDT by janmo
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To: Brilliant
I saw Tony Snow interview some former CBS producer. He was a real nutcase.

He's the guy that dismissed us all as "some guy in his pajamas, typing from his living room".

Stephen Hayes from the Weekly Standard answered that very eloquently and took the supercilious ass to task quite handily.

274 posted on 09/11/2004 8:39:25 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: unspun

R U wearing somebody else's??!


275 posted on 09/11/2004 8:39:30 PM PDT by LuvMyRedneck
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To: WVNan
"Are you following me? LOL"

LOL!! You'd think we'd have something else to do on a Saturday night right?

276 posted on 09/11/2004 8:39:38 PM PDT by mass55th (It's the superscript, stupid!!!!)
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To: boadecelia

Welcome aboard. You're not dead. You've just come alive!


277 posted on 09/11/2004 8:41:00 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Ciexyz
My uncle, a WW 2 Navy submarine vet, is still around also.

Well, thats good. Submarines had to be interesting work.

My Uncle was in combat from Oct.1942 (Africa) till May of 1945 (Germany). In that time he got 2 purple hearts, 2 bronze stars, and a silver star and he went AWOL to join his platoon back at the front after being wounded a second time. To quote a line from "Black Hawk Down "Its all about the man next to you". Everything about John Kerry and Vietnam makes me feel ill at ease.

It was good to see a WW2 vet like Bob Dole step in a defend the Swift Boaters and dress down John Kerry like he did a couple of weeks ago. He slammed Kerry on the Lefts 527's were doing all Kerry's dirty work for him.

278 posted on 09/11/2004 8:41:17 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-za)
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To: SERKIT
Concerning McCain-Feingold, don't forget that I'm putting my neck on the line ti challenge that law by running ads that it forbids, this fall. See second link below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Time to Talk about the 2008 Election"

If you haven't already joined the anti-CFR effort, please click here.

279 posted on 09/11/2004 8:42:05 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: Pukin Dog

That was NOT a rant. That was the Zell Miller brand of truth.

Right on!!


280 posted on 09/11/2004 8:42:16 PM PDT by wizr (Without the War on Terror, you only have the Terror. Ask a Russian.)
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To: Rome2000
I've been comparing it to the Boston Tea Party for weeks.

I think the blogosphere is wonderful. It is the most refreshing thing to happen in many a generation.

In many ways it is the national equivalent of a town hall meeting. It is the true voice of democracy.

It is the most refreshing thing to happen in politics since the constitutional convention.

I don't even think the 527's are a bad thing, despite how many millions Soros has thrown at them. This is the first time that I know of that individuals instead of party's and party bosses have decided independently to take on an issue and a candidate.

The Swifties and the bloggers have proved that the truth will find a way.
281 posted on 09/11/2004 8:42:28 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: Pukin Dog
So did you send it?? This might have full-page ad written all over it! Well stated. My favorite: If you don’t wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.
282 posted on 09/11/2004 8:42:58 PM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: Pukin Dog

I like it!!!


283 posted on 09/11/2004 8:43:04 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana ("Kerry-Edwards" or "Bury Vets' Words"? or "Verry Leftwards"?)
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To: unspun

I don't need to know anymore. :) HA!

Of course for being so revealing, you win this free link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml


284 posted on 09/11/2004 8:43:31 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: mass55th

LOL. I do, but I'm procrastinating.


285 posted on 09/11/2004 8:44:18 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: arasina
This Pukin Dog is one very talented FReeper, isn't he?

I'll second that. I just read it again. He managed to capture and state everything I've wanted to say for years.

Folks, we're living in an historic era right now. Twenty (or less) years from now, we'll be reading about the "Death of the Main Stream Media" in the history books. I'm very thankful that I'm living in this period of time to witness it.

286 posted on 09/11/2004 8:44:56 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Angry Enough
Send it where? I would not have the slightest idea who to send it to. I suspect that the MSM visits Free Republic often though.

Thanks. I wanted that to be the title, but I was concerned the mods would pull it if I did.
287 posted on 09/11/2004 8:45:28 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

We don't believe in you Queen Mab (MSM). We turn our backs on you and you shall cease to exist.

Just like Merlin.


288 posted on 09/11/2004 8:45:31 PM PDT by JiggyMac
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To: Nita Nupress; arasina
Thanks,

I think the grammar errors give it a certain charm. You?
289 posted on 09/11/2004 8:47:47 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog; M. Thatcher

Hope you draw Rush's attention to this!


290 posted on 09/11/2004 8:48:24 PM PDT by Budge (<><)
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To: cyncooper
I saw Tony Snow interview some former CBS producer. He was a real nutcase.

He's the guy that dismissed us all as "some guy in his pajamas, typing from his living room".

I saw that too. What planet do these people live on?!

291 posted on 09/11/2004 8:48:35 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

"Proud of Pukin" BTTT

292 posted on 09/11/2004 8:48:50 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Amen brother!


293 posted on 09/11/2004 8:48:57 PM PDT by stratman1969
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To: Ichneumon

your weighting and sampling and pointing out of your polls are to be believed."


^^^^^

possibly "if your polls are to be believed."

of = if


294 posted on 09/11/2004 8:49:07 PM PDT by maica (W is for Winner)
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To: Pukin Dog
CBS's unrevealed source of their Faux Docs are most certainly a an anti-Bush 527 or Team Kerry source.

Since the (D)'s new talking points are:
1) CBS has faux docs, and Kerry has faux medals, ergo, SwiftVets are faux too (that's a quantum leap)
2) Everybody is slinging mud, so believe nothing (esp. the SwiftVets)

.

This tactic will best with their own base, for whom it is targeted.

295 posted on 09/11/2004 8:50:17 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Sorry Kerry, you're 3 decimal places adrift: 3,000,000 not 3,000 "displaced"/murdered SE Asians)
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To: Mr. K

Looks like See BS hasn't received any of my money yet. I don't use or need any of the products from the companies listed.


296 posted on 09/11/2004 8:50:29 PM PDT by stratman1969
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To: Pukin Dog

Good heavens, that was beautiful.... majestic, even.

I heard hallelujahs in the background.

Thank you!


297 posted on 09/11/2004 8:50:50 PM PDT by Tamzee (Free Republic .... Partisan Pajama People)
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To: Pukin Dog
MOST excellent rant! Sums up *why* I have been coming to FR for my news for the past couple of years. It angers me to this day that I didn't know of the photos of jumpers from WTC until I began lurking here.

I'm Titan Magroyne typing in my pajamas, and I approved this message.
298 posted on 09/11/2004 8:50:59 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Cha! I am SO not an aggressive driver! Merely a pro-active one.)
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To: Rome2000
"Journalism majors?"

You want to know what is wrong with Journalists, the same thing that is wrong with Hollywood.

People used to go into journalism after having a real life. They used to bring something with them. The journalists today don't know anything. I have seen pieces written about the economy or economic issues that demonstrated the author doesn't know diddly about money or how money works. They don't even know how to ask good questions.

Hollywood used to be great when the stars came from Vaudeville or from the Stage or spent time in the military. All the early days of Hollywood was made of real people, innovators and people that actually had some depth to them.

Today all it takes is the right look and a junior high school education if that. In 15 years when the face goes most of them are has beens at 30. They have the depth of a mirror and it shows.
299 posted on 09/11/2004 8:51:41 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Excellent - ping


300 posted on 09/11/2004 8:51:57 PM PDT by fetts
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