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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA: We are NOT Amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 09/11/2004 9:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Open Letter to the Main Stream Media: We are not amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

We have watched you for years try to tell us how to think, what to think, who to vote for and what to believe based solely on your own agenda. In past years, you have come to think of yourselves as the fourth branch of government, the movers and shapers of opinion and the arbiters of truth.

In case you have not been watching, America is sick and tired of you. We are turning away from you in record numbers. Your audience and readership is declining faster than you can say the word 'bias', and instead of recognizing the trend, you have only become further entrenched and determined to force society to play by your rules.

Technology has allowed us to ignore you, and in many cases, replace you altogether. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite every night, not yet aware of his agenda, his bias and his overwhelming desire to turn the nation against its leaders unless they agreed with him. I saw him replaced by the most dishonest, agenda-driven anchorman this nation has ever produced. That Dan Rather is one of you should be enough to make you feel dirty.

You believe yourselves to be solely qualified to pontificate on the day-to-day events going on around the world as if journalism school gives you a special insight into the truth. When I was in college, people went to J-school only if they flunked out of business school and did not want to become teachers.

Well guess what?

The world is on to you.

Persons with knowledge and experience are not only ignoring you, but replacing you as sources of information. These sources, which don't need anything but their personal experiences and skills when sharing information with the public; persons who have spent more time learning and doing than you ever will, are generally more accurate and informative than you know how to be.

The Internet and Blogosphere would scare you, if you were smart enough or honest enough to know better.

People with practical knowledge and experience discussing current and historical events with more ability than you, are sharing more factual and in-depth information, and at a rate which you could never compete. We are relegating many of you to overpaid gossip mongers, while you don't want to acknowledge that we are eating your lunch.

You take polls, trying to convince us of what people are thinking as you have always done, but now, knowledgeable people are analyzing your methodology, your weighing and sampling and pointing out if your polls are to be believed. You can no longer expect what you say to be taken for gospel, because we are no longer amateurs about information. Someone, somewhere on a little web site is going to smoke you out, report your biases, and make you less believable than you once were. Count on it.

You can tell us that Swift Boat Veterans for truth are liars, and NOBODY is going to believe you just because you say it. Have you checked the Non Fiction Best Sellers lists lately? But even then, we know enough now to notice when book sales are based on giveaways, fund-raisers, pre-orders and the like, to notice when you want to push sales of your favorite liberal author when their book sheds no light, tells no truth, shares no facts, but only advances what you want us all to think about you and yours. We are not buying it anymore.

I'm writing this, because I know you are watching. Just as you watched last week when one of us 'amateurs' beat you at your own game. It happens here all the time. Free Republic is not a group of 'amateurs' or nutcases, as you like to think of us. This board is a slice of America, filled with people from all walks of life, whose cumulative knowledge dwarfs that of you and your 'hired experts'. I was offended to read your reaction to people here and at the Blogs who shared what started here regarding your fraudulent flunky Dan Rather, and his attempt to pass off what was clearly a forged document as legitimate news.

You attempted to deride us, not take us seriously, dismiss us as partisans (which is apparently only a bad thing if one is conservative) and generally ignore the wealth of information we passed along to the public about one of yours trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We nailed Dan Rather, not you, and you can't stand it.

Last week, you tried to suggest that Republicans booed Bill Clinton after Bush wished him well. We caught you. We got in your face and made you take it back, because you lied. Don't you hate that? We Internet-based losers made you back down, when you felt totally free to mislead the nation about the behavior of some you don't agree with.

It is only going to get worse for you.

You can no longer tell us anything, and expect to be believed without question. You can no longer mix your agendas into your 'news' and expect to get away with it. We may not catch you every time, but eventually we will, and then many of you are going to have to get real jobs. And when you do, you are going to need more than the ability to mislead, lie, slander and ignore people who don't agree with you. In the future, expect for Blogs like Instapundit and others to be on you like a fly on stink when you attempt to mislead us.

Yesterday, you attempted to paint the young LT. Bush as a poor pilot, because he attempted multiple landings a few times while flying a training jet. Stories like this are the reason why Network News has lost half of its audience over the last 10 years. Could not one of you pampered info-princes figure out that a military pilot WANTS to practice landings as much has he/she possibly can? I guess not, when you are blinded by ideology to the degree that any information you receive can only be interpreted in the negative.

You want to call Bush AWOL, but you don't want to talk about his hundreds of flying hours in a jet that has killed lesser aviators, you only want to discuss what furthers your agenda, because you know that when Democrats win, YOU are in charge. You don't want to talk about our President's Master's Degree from Harvard while at the same time Al Gore could not hack Divinity school.

Don't you wish you could regulate us? We know you spend your nights praying to the gods of the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence us. Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere. Too bad we can't say the same for you. It is you who is being silenced as your audience is paying more attention to us, and tuning you OUT. Fox News is in 50 million fewer homes, but they managed to beat you silly during the Republican Convention. How did that happen? US; that's how. Because of us, the Internet, the Blogosphere, Talk Radio and others, the nation no longer see you as the gatekeepers of information.

Take a lesson MSM, though it hurts, try a little fairness. Give balance a shot, and stop being a mouthpiece for the liberal agenda. Pretend if you must, that Conservatives are not Neanderthals long enough to get through a news segment. I know it must hurt to not be able to prove your superiority to us in all that you do and say, but try it.

Finally, just embrace the horror, folks. You might actually learn something from us merry bands of 'amateur' journalists. You see, we don't have an audience to please. We don't have to sell ad-space, or get face-lifts to keep our jobs. That leaves us free to share information on the subjects we might know a little something about without angering our liberal masters. On Free Republic, you can at times find as many threads angry at Republicans as you can Democrats. We don't have to hire experts, if we don't know something, we can ask a fellow FReeper or use Google, much faster than you can pay someone to tell you what you want to hear.

On Free Republic alone, there are experts in many fields. We have writers, poets, engineers, aviators, artists, journalists, (they keep that on the down-low), lawyers, historians, teachers, politicians, current and former members of all branches of the military; all who actually know what they are talking about without having a script (or DNC talking points) shoved in their face.

The choice is yours, MSM. You can join us in working to share information with a hungry audience, or you can be replaced. We don't need Nielson, just a web site and an idea. Instead of insulting the remainder of your dwindling viewers, readers and listeners, why don't you just agree to cut the crap, stop the parroting of the NY Times long enough to do your own work, and finally decide to become REAL journalists again.

I'm not saying we are journalists; we have jobs and careers beyond 'he-said-she-said'. We do like to share what we know, and we don't even get it right every time. However, the truth is in the numbers. We have them and they are growing, while yours are shrinking more rapidly every day. If you don't change your ways and soon, you are going to become irrelevant before this decade is over. Many of you already are. We only tune in to 'Petah' Jennings to watch him bravely strain to keep his composure whenever he has to report a Democrat election defeat. On a good night Chris Matthews total viewership barely equals the number of viewers on the Oxygen network.

The trends are in our favor. If you don't wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.

I'm Pukin Dog.


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KEYWORDS: bias; blogs; cbs; cronkite; danrather; davidosborne; documents; fake; forged; larryking; lies; media; mediabias; mediawingofthednc; msm; napalminthemorning; pukindogrocks; rathergate
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To: OCCASparky
Nita, I wish I shared your optimism. However, the media is just one step in a larger journey against leftist bias in our society. And perhaps the only place it is more blatant than the media is in academia itself.

Well, as a member of academia, I can tell you that more and more conservatives are coming out of the closet, so to speak. And I see much promise in the current crop of students. Remember, they're Internet-savvy. Those liberal professors now have some major competition when trying to shape minds.

Take heart!

351 posted on 09/11/2004 9:25:28 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Pukin Dog

Bump for FR and my email list. Outstanding! :-)


352 posted on 09/11/2004 9:26:29 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (JFK:"I think there has been an exaggeration," Re: Terror Threat: See Beslan for reference. :-()
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To: FredZarguna
I'll see your black pajama's and raise you a pair of undies. And I've got them on my head. ( Actually I really don't, I just wanted to rub a little Abu Graib in their noses since we are unburdening our chests tonight.)
353 posted on 09/11/2004 9:28:44 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: Pukin Dog

354 posted on 09/11/2004 9:28:48 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Pukin Dog

bump


355 posted on 09/11/2004 9:30:02 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Pukin Dog

I enjoyed reading your rant very much.


356 posted on 09/11/2004 9:31:04 PM PDT by Rocky (Heinz Kerry: 57 positions on any issue)
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To: Pukin Dog

An excellent, stimulating, necessary "rant".

The Old Media know that they have a problem. But - like a scorpion - they aren't likely to change their behavior.

The Old Media is very dangerous (e.g., Rather and the "memos") and they will do all that they can to suppress us.

Many FReepers have jobs and outside interests. They bring knowledge and experience that makes them awesome truth-seekers, and truth-tellers. There will be ups and downs, but we will prevail.

Good job, Dog.


357 posted on 09/11/2004 9:31:20 PM PDT by Diddley (Hey Kerry: The swiftees are comin' for ya')
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent rant! I think you speak for all of us, we're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it any more.


358 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:09 PM PDT by jamaly
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To: microgood
I saw that show, also. Yes, a FEW of the LSM are smart enough to be scared. Most are not that smart.

John / Billybob

359 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:16 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: OCCASparky

The good news is that the kids have access to computers. I'm even somewhat optimistic about the DU types. They actually come here and see the truth and some of it has to eventually rub off on them. At least they have no excuse for being stupid. The difference here at FR is that we post both conservative and liberal articles, news, etc. and then pick them apart to find the truth in them. Places like DU only tolerate one point of view. But they still encounter the truth from time to time on the internet.


360 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:39 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Peach

I am 70 years old and NEVER, EVER watch the networks. Be
sure you do your homework before deciding who is watching
what. Also, it is ll:12 PM and I am still up and reading
everything I can find on the internet.


361 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:51 PM PDT by just truth please
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To: tiki

You are right on the money. Even Fox News, the number one TV news network in the country doesn't get it. The internet helped GW Bush win the Presidency in 2000 and destroy the Democrats in 2002, when all the old media pundits had it wrong. This year the MSM is going to look like the fools and idiots they now portray themselves to be. CBS is lost! There is no hope for them. No one with half a brain listens to the MSM anymore. We keep predicting their downfall. Fact is: they are already dead and don't know it! Dan Rather is just a walking mummy, but dead nonetheless!!!


362 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:55 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Pukin Dog; potlatch; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; ntnychik; Interesting Times; Chieftain; ...

Walter gestures hypnotically....






John "V" Kerry now admits he was at the VVAW Executive Steering Committee Meeting in Kansas City, Missouri from November 12-15, 1971

This was John "V" Kerry's
first US Senate vote.

Kerry claims he voted "Nay".

Isn't that special!





THE GREAT PRETENDER



KILLIAN'S ISLAND?

BARNES' DOOR?

KELLEY'S HEROS?

ROBINSON'S CRUSADE?

RAthER BUYASSED?

363 posted on 09/11/2004 9:33:44 PM PDT by devolve ( -- John"V"Kerry scams Boston Irish voters! - http://pro.lookingat.us/FakeIrish.html --)
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To: TASMANIANRED
I'll see your black pajama's and raise you a pair of undies. And I've got them on my head.

They're doing a virtual human pyramid over at the FReeper canteen.

364 posted on 09/11/2004 9:33:56 PM PDT by FredZarguna (TickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTick...What did Dan know, and when did he know it?)
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To: writer33

Be sure to give me a ping my FRiend when you get the essay up.


365 posted on 09/11/2004 9:34:35 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Pukin Dog

Hey MSM... sue this!


366 posted on 09/11/2004 9:35:02 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Pukin Dog

It was a great rant .. sure made me feel better!!


367 posted on 09/11/2004 9:35:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Pukin Dog

Pukin, that's a pretty impressive piece of writing, my friend, not only in content, but also from a WRITING perspective. There are so many blogs and posts and what have you that have good content, but the style is so bad that it kills the credibility. Kudos to you for putting 'em both together. Nice job.

MM


368 posted on 09/11/2004 9:36:26 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

That's modern times. This place is getting as interesting as it was in the run-up to impeachment.


369 posted on 09/11/2004 9:36:36 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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To: Pukin Dog

Well said, a direct hit!


370 posted on 09/11/2004 9:37:24 PM PDT by Amish with an attitude (If (now a big if )Kerry wins... we all lose.)
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To: airborne

"FreeRepublic.com is the future"

I recall a WSJ comment regarding FR being what the internet was meant to be after the space shuttle tragedy. If memory serves correct, the live thread on that event beat AP by 11 minutes on the disaster. Freepers are everywhere and are very observant


371 posted on 09/11/2004 9:38:13 PM PDT by Damagro (Kerry posesses all the best traits of a dog... well, except loyalty)
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To: WVNan

Will do.


372 posted on 09/11/2004 9:38:40 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: FredZarguna

I have leashes to go around. With 2 Puppies I have short ones and long ones, a retractable, a shoulder harness and 2 gentle leaders. Man we can party.


373 posted on 09/11/2004 9:41:31 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: writer33

You know, I'm embarassed to admit that I've not had time to read your book yet. Don't feel slighted however. I have a backlog of about 10 books right now. Summers are not for leisure around here. Non-stop projects.


374 posted on 09/11/2004 9:41:54 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Pukin Dog
Forgive? Are you kidding? I loved every minute of this! This is a keeper, well written, wonderfully sarcastic, and full of something the MSM has no use for, The TRUTH!
Way to go Pukin Dog!
375 posted on 09/11/2004 9:42:03 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: devolve

LET'S START BY KICKING DAN RATHER'S BUTT





Proud To Be Part Of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

376 posted on 09/11/2004 9:42:35 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: sargon; Pukin Dog

And like our courageous President
We shall not tire
We shall not falter
We shall not fail


377 posted on 09/11/2004 9:43:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: All
Too many mainstream media organizations have become skid marks on American journalism's clean shorts.

Well, not so clean. Journalism hasn't washed its underwear in over thirty years. It's about time.

378 posted on 09/11/2004 9:45:48 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: USNBandit

Well Old Media, the only reason we read or watch you at all is to tear your arses up when we catch you as in ala CBS, Dan Rather.

But old media, you have urinated us and got our Freep...ajamas in a knot once too often, now you are going to pay, big time.


379 posted on 09/11/2004 9:45:54 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Pukin Dog

I can completely destroy with facts anything written by the AP, WP, Reuters, etc. As can most of you.

The Lame Stream Media has met its match, and it is us. FR is better informed, more well written, fresher, and open to contradiction and in-stream improvement.

The old media is dead. Long live the blogs, with FR as King and adjudicator!


380 posted on 09/11/2004 9:47:52 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (SPITBALLS?!)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm off to bed, but first, let me say excellent rant. Well done.


381 posted on 09/11/2004 9:48:56 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pukin Dog
Forgive the rant, please. Just venting.

Steam, when "vented" in such a precisely controlled and contained manner is one of the most powerful forces known. Well said! That's my kind of rant - full of Zellfire and brimstone!

382 posted on 09/11/2004 9:50:09 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (Negotiations are the heroin of Westerners addicted to self-delusion.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Bump. Good one.


383 posted on 09/11/2004 9:50:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Islamo-Jihadis and Homosexual-Jihadis both want to destroy civilization.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Is this okay to forward on?

Thanks.


384 posted on 09/11/2004 9:50:53 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Mo1

I hope you really send this out to the MSM and to your editorial page. You need to publish this. And thank you, you are speaking for all of us and I could not of said it better. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.


385 posted on 09/11/2004 9:50:58 PM PDT by GUIDO
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To: WVNan

No. I know what it is. You just don't care. ;-) Hehe!


386 posted on 09/11/2004 9:50:59 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: Rome2000
Another freeper has already likened this to a 21st century BOSTON TEA PARTY!!!

That be me -- she says proudly! I do feel that's exactly what is happening and I'm proud to be even a small part of it... it's been a long time coming as we've had to sit back and listen to drivel we know isn't true and helpless to do anything more than write letters to the editor or the network station. There is Power in Numbers! I've always known it and finally it's being taped...

Thank you PunkinDog for a GREAT letter!

387 posted on 09/11/2004 9:51:24 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Pukin Dog
Forgive the rant, please. Just venting.

Forgive the rant - not needed friend. However, what we need is more of the same, in their face, relentless and hard hitting facts, just like you posted.

Great Post!!!

388 posted on 09/11/2004 9:51:44 PM PDT by chadsworth (There are over 2 dozen johns in the white house, we don't need two more.)
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To: Nita Nupress

I couldn't possibly locate the pic, but yesterday (I think) a Freeper posted a very recent picture of Gore. He didn't look healthy.

Hey, if someone could create an iron-on transfer for the VRWC logo underscored with "Catching Journalist Lies In My Jammies" or with the center pic a cartoon of someone at the puter in jammies with a steamin cuppa joe at hand, that might be a nice one for the Freeper Store...


389 posted on 09/11/2004 9:52:38 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Cha! I am SO not an aggressive driver! Merely a pro-active one.)
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To: Mo1
Thanks for the ping! GREAT THREAD! I especially liked post 127!

NordP (www.pledgewear.com) – I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

390 posted on 09/11/2004 9:52:45 PM PDT by NordP (The terrorists aren’t bullies on a playground; they’re hard core, “24” TV, head-sawing TERRORISTS!)
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To: Brilliant

I saw that same interview between Snow and the CBS Network guy and picked up on the exact same exchanges you noted.
I came to the same conclusion I've come to a thousand times
before: these people simply can't be reached by logic, common sense, or even facts. Even an admission of guilt by the people they're defending won't change them. They have NO interest in the truth if it threatens their pointless idiot agenda.Listening to them, I don't so much get a feel for how extreme they are, so much as how closed their logical faculties are, permanently closed, and how impossible it is for any degree of self-awareness to enter their minds.


391 posted on 09/11/2004 9:53:06 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Pukin Dog

Your rant was beeautiful.


392 posted on 09/11/2004 9:55:00 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: PA Engineer

> the most dishonest, agenda-driven anchorman
> this nation has ever produced.

Perfect description. Now let's make certain that he is held accountable for his forgery. Career loss at a minimum, jail time if justice were done.

It really sickens me that CBS had the audacity to continue to lie when called on it. They really need to be driven out of business. Dan Rather should be Freeped the way we used to Freep Clinton. He is a disgrace, and has no business being on the airwaves...


393 posted on 09/11/2004 9:55:07 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: just truth please

"I am 70 years old and NEVER, EVER watch the networks. Be
sure you do your homework before deciding who is watching
what. Also, it is ll:12 PM and I am still up and reading
everything I can find on the internet."

I was going to raise you my 66 years, but can't match the 70.

We don't have a single alphabet media outlet on the Dish.

The net is a blast for an old fart like me, even if the wife does say I spend waaaaay too much time here at FR and the bloggers.


394 posted on 09/11/2004 9:56:06 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Redcoat LI
,Krugman,and his fellow sleaze merchants

Now you're going to make us all puke bringing up that little boy Krugman... New York Times would go a long ways towards improving their image if they got rid of him and Dowd.

395 posted on 09/11/2004 9:56:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Pukin Dog

Beautiful rant and it rates a well deserved ~bump~!

Old media is dying and hopefully the Democrat party with it. What will the Democrat party become without the MSM of old to prop it up?


396 posted on 09/11/2004 9:57:48 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
As I've said before, thank God for FR. I don't think we could have made it through the Clinton years w/o it. We are no longer the silent majority and we will have our say.

BTW, Jane said tonight that the reason Bush got a convention bump is that the speeches were relatively unfiltered. As if people can't make the right decisions or come to the correct conclusions w/o them leading us by the nose.

397 posted on 09/11/2004 9:58:29 PM PDT by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)
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To: Thickman
It should be the mission, indeed the responsibility, of every registered Freeper to seek out MSM bias and post it on this venerable site.

It also brings awsome responsibility on each of our shoulders (as the word spreads re: the Freepers) we know our posts are being watched for accuracy..

398 posted on 09/11/2004 9:59:24 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Pukin Dog
Please do. I want Dan Rather's job. I figure any chimp can do it.

Know what you get when you cross Dan Rather with a chimp?

A retarded chimp.

399 posted on 09/11/2004 9:59:45 PM PDT by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Shortstop7; All
Since these posts almost have me believing that I can write, please feel free to forward or pass along the rant to anyone you wish.
400 posted on 09/11/2004 9:59:56 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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