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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA: We are NOT Amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 09/11/2004 9:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Open Letter to the Main Stream Media: We are not amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

We have watched you for years try to tell us how to think, what to think, who to vote for and what to believe based solely on your own agenda. In past years, you have come to think of yourselves as the fourth branch of government, the movers and shapers of opinion and the arbiters of truth.

In case you have not been watching, America is sick and tired of you. We are turning away from you in record numbers. Your audience and readership is declining faster than you can say the word 'bias', and instead of recognizing the trend, you have only become further entrenched and determined to force society to play by your rules.

Technology has allowed us to ignore you, and in many cases, replace you altogether. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite every night, not yet aware of his agenda, his bias and his overwhelming desire to turn the nation against its leaders unless they agreed with him. I saw him replaced by the most dishonest, agenda-driven anchorman this nation has ever produced. That Dan Rather is one of you should be enough to make you feel dirty.

You believe yourselves to be solely qualified to pontificate on the day-to-day events going on around the world as if journalism school gives you a special insight into the truth. When I was in college, people went to J-school only if they flunked out of business school and did not want to become teachers.

Well guess what?

The world is on to you.

Persons with knowledge and experience are not only ignoring you, but replacing you as sources of information. These sources, which don't need anything but their personal experiences and skills when sharing information with the public; persons who have spent more time learning and doing than you ever will, are generally more accurate and informative than you know how to be.

The Internet and Blogosphere would scare you, if you were smart enough or honest enough to know better.

People with practical knowledge and experience discussing current and historical events with more ability than you, are sharing more factual and in-depth information, and at a rate which you could never compete. We are relegating many of you to overpaid gossip mongers, while you don't want to acknowledge that we are eating your lunch.

You take polls, trying to convince us of what people are thinking as you have always done, but now, knowledgeable people are analyzing your methodology, your weighing and sampling and pointing out if your polls are to be believed. You can no longer expect what you say to be taken for gospel, because we are no longer amateurs about information. Someone, somewhere on a little web site is going to smoke you out, report your biases, and make you less believable than you once were. Count on it.

You can tell us that Swift Boat Veterans for truth are liars, and NOBODY is going to believe you just because you say it. Have you checked the Non Fiction Best Sellers lists lately? But even then, we know enough now to notice when book sales are based on giveaways, fund-raisers, pre-orders and the like, to notice when you want to push sales of your favorite liberal author when their book sheds no light, tells no truth, shares no facts, but only advances what you want us all to think about you and yours. We are not buying it anymore.

I'm writing this, because I know you are watching. Just as you watched last week when one of us 'amateurs' beat you at your own game. It happens here all the time. Free Republic is not a group of 'amateurs' or nutcases, as you like to think of us. This board is a slice of America, filled with people from all walks of life, whose cumulative knowledge dwarfs that of you and your 'hired experts'. I was offended to read your reaction to people here and at the Blogs who shared what started here regarding your fraudulent flunky Dan Rather, and his attempt to pass off what was clearly a forged document as legitimate news.

You attempted to deride us, not take us seriously, dismiss us as partisans (which is apparently only a bad thing if one is conservative) and generally ignore the wealth of information we passed along to the public about one of yours trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We nailed Dan Rather, not you, and you can't stand it.

Last week, you tried to suggest that Republicans booed Bill Clinton after Bush wished him well. We caught you. We got in your face and made you take it back, because you lied. Don't you hate that? We Internet-based losers made you back down, when you felt totally free to mislead the nation about the behavior of some you don't agree with.

It is only going to get worse for you.

You can no longer tell us anything, and expect to be believed without question. You can no longer mix your agendas into your 'news' and expect to get away with it. We may not catch you every time, but eventually we will, and then many of you are going to have to get real jobs. And when you do, you are going to need more than the ability to mislead, lie, slander and ignore people who don't agree with you. In the future, expect for Blogs like Instapundit and others to be on you like a fly on stink when you attempt to mislead us.

Yesterday, you attempted to paint the young LT. Bush as a poor pilot, because he attempted multiple landings a few times while flying a training jet. Stories like this are the reason why Network News has lost half of its audience over the last 10 years. Could not one of you pampered info-princes figure out that a military pilot WANTS to practice landings as much has he/she possibly can? I guess not, when you are blinded by ideology to the degree that any information you receive can only be interpreted in the negative.

You want to call Bush AWOL, but you don't want to talk about his hundreds of flying hours in a jet that has killed lesser aviators, you only want to discuss what furthers your agenda, because you know that when Democrats win, YOU are in charge. You don't want to talk about our President's Master's Degree from Harvard while at the same time Al Gore could not hack Divinity school.

Don't you wish you could regulate us? We know you spend your nights praying to the gods of the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence us. Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere. Too bad we can't say the same for you. It is you who is being silenced as your audience is paying more attention to us, and tuning you OUT. Fox News is in 50 million fewer homes, but they managed to beat you silly during the Republican Convention. How did that happen? US; that's how. Because of us, the Internet, the Blogosphere, Talk Radio and others, the nation no longer see you as the gatekeepers of information.

Take a lesson MSM, though it hurts, try a little fairness. Give balance a shot, and stop being a mouthpiece for the liberal agenda. Pretend if you must, that Conservatives are not Neanderthals long enough to get through a news segment. I know it must hurt to not be able to prove your superiority to us in all that you do and say, but try it.

Finally, just embrace the horror, folks. You might actually learn something from us merry bands of 'amateur' journalists. You see, we don't have an audience to please. We don't have to sell ad-space, or get face-lifts to keep our jobs. That leaves us free to share information on the subjects we might know a little something about without angering our liberal masters. On Free Republic, you can at times find as many threads angry at Republicans as you can Democrats. We don't have to hire experts, if we don't know something, we can ask a fellow FReeper or use Google, much faster than you can pay someone to tell you what you want to hear.

On Free Republic alone, there are experts in many fields. We have writers, poets, engineers, aviators, artists, journalists, (they keep that on the down-low), lawyers, historians, teachers, politicians, current and former members of all branches of the military; all who actually know what they are talking about without having a script (or DNC talking points) shoved in their face.

The choice is yours, MSM. You can join us in working to share information with a hungry audience, or you can be replaced. We don't need Nielson, just a web site and an idea. Instead of insulting the remainder of your dwindling viewers, readers and listeners, why don't you just agree to cut the crap, stop the parroting of the NY Times long enough to do your own work, and finally decide to become REAL journalists again.

I'm not saying we are journalists; we have jobs and careers beyond 'he-said-she-said'. We do like to share what we know, and we don't even get it right every time. However, the truth is in the numbers. We have them and they are growing, while yours are shrinking more rapidly every day. If you don't change your ways and soon, you are going to become irrelevant before this decade is over. Many of you already are. We only tune in to 'Petah' Jennings to watch him bravely strain to keep his composure whenever he has to report a Democrat election defeat. On a good night Chris Matthews total viewership barely equals the number of viewers on the Oxygen network.

The trends are in our favor. If you don't wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.

I'm Pukin Dog.


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To: Titan Magroyne

"Hey, if someone could create an iron-on transfer for the VRWC logo underscored with "Catching Journalist Lies In My Jammies" or with the center pic a cartoon of someone at the puter in jammies with a steamin cuppa joe at hand, that might be a nice one for the Freeper Store..."

JR should get something going on the Freep...ajamas. Must strike for the moment while the PJ's are a hot topic, he could generate some revenue for FR with sales for same.


401 posted on 09/11/2004 10:00:12 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Drango

That explains a little but have you noticed how there are about 50 points of proof on the forgeries and all the MSM can report on is the superscript? Is all the rest too complicated for them to understand?


402 posted on 09/11/2004 10:01:01 PM PDT by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)
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To: Pukin Dog
HOT DAMN!

Bookmarked.

403 posted on 09/11/2004 10:02:26 PM PDT by Constitution Day (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: Pukin Dog
Hey MSM... Who's your daddy!

(Nice job Pukin Dog!)
404 posted on 09/11/2004 10:03:14 PM PDT by DocRock (Why don't the RNC protesters come down here and help clean up after Charley and Frances?)
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To: writer33

Ohhhhh, that hurt. You should know I haven't had time even to read "Unfit for Command". Do you have any idea how badly I want to read that book? Come winter I hope to catch up.


405 posted on 09/11/2004 10:06:32 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Peach
A-a-a-a-a-a-men, a-a-a-a-a-a-men, a-a-a-men, a-a-a-men,
a-a-men, a-a-men.
We will
we will
sock you
sock you
old media
we will sock you!
406 posted on 09/11/2004 10:06:41 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Titan Magroyne; Nita Nupress
I'm not going to deface this thread by posting a photo of one of The Awfuls, but I will direct you to the thread: Al Gore does not look well
407 posted on 09/11/2004 10:06:52 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: blue-duncan
"No, no, we are amateurs. That's why the trees don't hinder us from seeing the forest. We are not jaded by ego, self aggrandizement or self importance and it is still the love of the game, not the prestige of the position that keeps us in our pajamas making sure the facts correspond with reality, truth. We are amateurs, really."

Not so.

Professional Amateurs all

408 posted on 09/11/2004 10:07:56 PM PDT by spokeshave (Traitor Kerry did for free what the POWs received torture to make them say)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

"Freepajamas" I LIKE it! :o)


409 posted on 09/11/2004 10:09:44 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Cha! I am SO not an aggressive driver! Merely a pro-active one.)
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To: Pukin Dog

BTTT! Outstanding read!


410 posted on 09/11/2004 10:10:24 PM PDT by Eastbound ("Ne'er a Scrooge or a Patsy Be")
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To: tiki
BTW, Jane said tonight that the reason Bush got a convention bump is that the speeches were relatively unfiltered

Heard that one... IMO the Dems scripting their convention was an insult to my intelligence and boring as he!!... I loved the fire and brimstone of the Republican Convention and the cherry on top was Zell Miller challenging Chrissy boy to a duel!

411 posted on 09/11/2004 10:10:38 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: arasina

Thankee kindly, that's the one I meant.


412 posted on 09/11/2004 10:11:14 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Cha! I am SO not an aggressive driver! Merely a pro-active one.)
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To: WVNan

I know. I was just teasing you. ;-)


413 posted on 09/11/2004 10:15:57 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: Pukin Dog

The Mainstream Media is STILL in business?!?

I haven't watched network news since 1981.
I thought they'd be gone by now.


414 posted on 09/11/2004 10:16:12 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Pukin Dog
What you wrote isn't a rant. It's just telling the truth that the mainstream media is now facing SERIOUS competition in terms of spreading the news.

You may want to find a copy of Alvin Toffler's famous book The Third Wave, which prophesized that with improvements in communications technology the hammerlock on the control of information dissemination by the mainstream press will come to an end; Toffler describes the process as de-massifying the media. When Buckhead wrote that post on Wednesday night right as CBS finished their report on 60 Minutes II it triggered off an online investigation that essentially debunked CBS' claims in twelve hours! This is the power of New Media at its very finest.

415 posted on 09/11/2004 10:16:14 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: writer33

I know. I HAVE to get to bed. Hate to leave this great revolution, but I have to preach in the morning. Goodnight and God bless.


416 posted on 09/11/2004 10:17:06 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Pukin Dog

Bump


417 posted on 09/11/2004 10:17:30 PM PDT by sport
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bttt


418 posted on 09/11/2004 10:18:08 PM PDT by ELS
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To: WVNan

Good night and God bless.


419 posted on 09/11/2004 10:18:20 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: sargon
without having to depend on the MSM

All you guy's talk like Dan Blather would know that MSM means Main Stream Media. I am posting this to let them know.

420 posted on 09/11/2004 10:18:20 PM PDT by The Real Deal (The United States has the best fight forces in the world!)
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To: mylife

Ever notice posters here and the bloggers always link to sources, that the utmost effort is made as to vetting and veracity. If found to be lacking in either, it is slapped down in nano seconds by said posters peers.

Hell, the moderators alone here at FR make old media editors look like Hillary's turtles on a fence post.

And the old media has the nerve to say the Bloggasphere is unvetted and without editors? If only they should be a fraction as honest and truthful.


421 posted on 09/11/2004 10:18:35 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Pukin Dog

LOL, reading it while listening to "Twisted Sisters" "We're Not Gonna Take It!"


422 posted on 09/11/2004 10:20:18 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent rant, PD!


423 posted on 09/11/2004 10:23:48 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Read John Kerry's new book: Mein Kampuchea)
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To: Pukin Dog
That was... Beautiful
respectfully, StarfireIV
424 posted on 09/11/2004 10:26:33 PM PDT by StarfireIV
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To: Pukin Dog

WELL PUT!

425 posted on 09/11/2004 10:31:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: spokeshave

I think the definition below of the word "Amateur" about sums it up for us all.

"Word History: When Mrs. T.W. Atkinson remarked in her 1863 Recollections of the Tartar Steppes and their Inhabitants, “I am no amateur of these melons,” she used amateur in a sense unfamiliar to us. That sense, “a lover, an admirer,” is, however, clearly descended from the senses of the word's ultimate Latin source, amtor, “lover, devoted friend, devotee, enthusiastic pursuer of an objective,”

Above from: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Amateur


426 posted on 09/11/2004 10:32:06 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: StarfireIV

You know when a similar revolt happened in France there were a bunch of folks that lost their heads.

I'd be satisfied if they lost their jobs and had to find decent work instead of the swill slinging they do now.


427 posted on 09/11/2004 10:32:21 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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To: Pukin Dog

BRAVO!

I only get my news here, FOX News (TV and internet) and talk radio. It's all I need. No newspapers either.

Thanks for a great essay. We know they're watching!


428 posted on 09/11/2004 10:32:58 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Pukin Dog

I agreed with the "rant" so much that I forwarded it to the alphabet news boys. Need more of the same..


429 posted on 09/11/2004 10:34:27 PM PDT by chadsworth (There are over 2 dozen johns in the white house, we don't need two more.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

half the fun of blogging is finding fault with something not to cut someone down but to get to the truth...something MSM forgot a long time ago...you are 100
% correct, no sources and one will be called on it within half a minute or two...


430 posted on 09/11/2004 10:35:05 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: RayChuang88

ah yes Marshal McLuhan the medium is the message...


http://www.mcluhan.utoronto.ca/article_mediumisthemessage.htm

Dan Rather take note..


431 posted on 09/11/2004 10:40:00 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: writer33

Ping me when you post it? Thanks.
Oh, and bookmarking history.


432 posted on 09/11/2004 10:40:51 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (john F'n kerry reminds me of a horse, I'm just not sure which end.)
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To: Pukin Dog; potlatch; onyx; nopardons; ntnychik; Smartass; MeekOneGOP; devolve; Grampa Dave; ...
Martin Luther's current incarnation Pukin Dog nails his 99 theses to the Wittenberg Cathedral (ABCNNBCBS) doors--

--using a M-61A1 20mm Cannon Gattling Gun--

Toto exposed the Wizard of Oz as Professor Marvel--"Pay no attention to that Dan behind the curtain."

But Humpty Rather cannot unbreak his egg--

His 2002 comment to O'Reilly that Bill Clinton was an honest man despite lying to the American people on network television should have alerted all--

Bernard Goldberg's Bias in 1999, together with the continual work of Media Research Council has provided the objective data.

The Howlin-Buckhead Proof of Word vis-a-vis the Superscript Forgery caught CBS' icon with Registered's egg on his face.

Dan Rather is just another flasher in a trench coat.


433 posted on 09/11/2004 10:41:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: HiJinx; Pukin Dog
Way to go Pukin Dog!

Thanks for the ping HiJinx, well worth the read.

434 posted on 09/11/2004 10:45:59 PM PDT by SAMWolf (There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Here's an Award for Dan after he layed an egg;


435 posted on 09/11/2004 10:49:13 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: mylife

"huntley and brinkley"

Yah, I remember him, too. However, my political awareness
was limited to trying to convince the neighborhood kids
that Nixon was NOT going to make us go to school year
'round. te he

"Goodnight, Chet."
"Goodnight, David, and, goodnight for
NBC News."


436 posted on 09/11/2004 10:51:16 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: Not now, Not ever!

Will do, NNNE!


437 posted on 09/11/2004 10:51:24 PM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: Brilliant
He also complained that there was no check on the bloggers. To me, it seems that he's really complaining that the bloggers have now placed a check on the networks

Exactly! I found this comment posted on the INDC blog:

"It used to be that we needed a free press in order to keep the government honest, and now we need the blogosphere to keep the press honest."

my new tagline - thanks to poster "Jewel" on INDC

438 posted on 09/11/2004 11:03:15 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Once the free press kept the government honest, now we need the blogosphere to keep the press honest)
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To: Mr. K

Here is a example of how our media old-timey, that is, has not made much mention of to the viewship of the country as a whole: Over 9 MILLION people in Afghanistan have registered to vote. On a World news channel, they show people in long lines like as for food or ice or something, waiting to get their voter cards. Women with their faces proudly revealed but still properly head-covered, tell the reporter from Sweden they are thrilled to have the chance to vote in this election. A man says that he is looking forward to his country being able to hold an election. To us, it seems mundane, but, the Afghanistanis seem thrilled by it. WE are responsible for this taking place. People should know about it in "depth" as old out-going Blather would say.
So. What do we get from our own media? At the most, on the evening news, I think I saw once, about a week or so ago, a four second blip that went like "people in Afghan mummbbblllee to mumb vote in their election but the chances of that happening are sure to be diminished by factions who are against it(gloomy voice over by the reporter, and NO PICTURES of the happy people over there.


439 posted on 09/11/2004 11:07:21 PM PDT by onyx eyes
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To: Pukin Dog

Pukin Dog, I think I'm infatuated with you. Be still my heart!! lol


440 posted on 09/11/2004 11:11:09 PM PDT by My back yard (Deep Font detector in use.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Fantastic, well crafted, vent. You done us poor, partisan, pajama clad, FReepers proud.


441 posted on 09/11/2004 11:11:27 PM PDT by radiohead (Burn in hell, Kerry.)
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To: Semper Paratus
Its reminds me of the pre-battle scene in "Braveheart".

Or the President's speech to the pilots before destroying the aliens in "Independence Day"...

"....we can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. ...you will once again be fighting for our freedom...for our right to exist.

And should we win the day, (the 4th of July) will no longer be an American holiday but the day the world declared in one voice,

we will not go quietly into the night, we will not vanish without a fight, we're going to live on, we're going to survive.

Today we celebrate our Independence Day."

From the MSM that is!

442 posted on 09/11/2004 11:15:26 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Pukin Dog
Forgive the rant, please. Just venting.

Forgive it? I'm standing and applauding it!

I have been wanting to write something like that for months -- ever since it became abundantly clear that the media majority would compromise their own shaky standards of "journalism" to make sure that John Kerry is elected.

443 posted on 09/11/2004 11:19:59 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Telling it like it is!! Well done.


444 posted on 09/11/2004 11:21:22 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Thickman

Sometimes I miss rotary telephones. They weren't fast but they were heavy enough to not go flying off the counter or get lost under my kid's beds. And I didn't have to "beep" it to find the dang thing. :)


445 posted on 09/11/2004 11:21:52 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Pukin Dog
Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere.

Yup. We're here, we're jammied, and we're in your face.

446 posted on 09/11/2004 11:25:59 PM PDT by MaeWest ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind - which is why Effin is circling the drain.")
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To: radiohead

Hey now, I am poor partisan and nightgown clad. hah

I thought it was so typically liberally demented of him to impugn the weblog reporters, in light of the CBS forgeries.


447 posted on 09/11/2004 11:27:15 PM PDT by My back yard (Deep Font detector in use.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Brilliant rant, PD! I'm with you all the way here... the MSM will soon be on life support, if it isn't already.

Bravo! I've got to ping a few FRiends to this thread. ;-)

448 posted on 09/11/2004 11:31:12 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Howlin; Buckhead; TankerKC; NYCVirago; abner; doug from upland; Mia T; ALOHA RONNIE
Awesome rant by Puking Dog ping! (Sorry for any duplicate posts)
449 posted on 09/11/2004 11:32:34 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

450 posted on 09/11/2004 11:33:19 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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