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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA: We are NOT Amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 09/11/2004 9:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Open Letter to the Main Stream Media: We are not amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

We have watched you for years try to tell us how to think, what to think, who to vote for and what to believe based solely on your own agenda. In past years, you have come to think of yourselves as the fourth branch of government, the movers and shapers of opinion and the arbiters of truth.

In case you have not been watching, America is sick and tired of you. We are turning away from you in record numbers. Your audience and readership is declining faster than you can say the word 'bias', and instead of recognizing the trend, you have only become further entrenched and determined to force society to play by your rules.

Technology has allowed us to ignore you, and in many cases, replace you altogether. I grew up watching Walter Cronkite every night, not yet aware of his agenda, his bias and his overwhelming desire to turn the nation against its leaders unless they agreed with him. I saw him replaced by the most dishonest, agenda-driven anchorman this nation has ever produced. That Dan Rather is one of you should be enough to make you feel dirty.

You believe yourselves to be solely qualified to pontificate on the day-to-day events going on around the world as if journalism school gives you a special insight into the truth. When I was in college, people went to J-school only if they flunked out of business school and did not want to become teachers.

Well guess what?

The world is on to you.

Persons with knowledge and experience are not only ignoring you, but replacing you as sources of information. These sources, which don't need anything but their personal experiences and skills when sharing information with the public; persons who have spent more time learning and doing than you ever will, are generally more accurate and informative than you know how to be.

The Internet and Blogosphere would scare you, if you were smart enough or honest enough to know better.

People with practical knowledge and experience discussing current and historical events with more ability than you, are sharing more factual and in-depth information, and at a rate which you could never compete. We are relegating many of you to overpaid gossip mongers, while you don't want to acknowledge that we are eating your lunch.

You take polls, trying to convince us of what people are thinking as you have always done, but now, knowledgeable people are analyzing your methodology, your weighing and sampling and pointing out if your polls are to be believed. You can no longer expect what you say to be taken for gospel, because we are no longer amateurs about information. Someone, somewhere on a little web site is going to smoke you out, report your biases, and make you less believable than you once were. Count on it.

You can tell us that Swift Boat Veterans for truth are liars, and NOBODY is going to believe you just because you say it. Have you checked the Non Fiction Best Sellers lists lately? But even then, we know enough now to notice when book sales are based on giveaways, fund-raisers, pre-orders and the like, to notice when you want to push sales of your favorite liberal author when their book sheds no light, tells no truth, shares no facts, but only advances what you want us all to think about you and yours. We are not buying it anymore.

I'm writing this, because I know you are watching. Just as you watched last week when one of us 'amateurs' beat you at your own game. It happens here all the time. Free Republic is not a group of 'amateurs' or nutcases, as you like to think of us. This board is a slice of America, filled with people from all walks of life, whose cumulative knowledge dwarfs that of you and your 'hired experts'. I was offended to read your reaction to people here and at the Blogs who shared what started here regarding your fraudulent flunky Dan Rather, and his attempt to pass off what was clearly a forged document as legitimate news.

You attempted to deride us, not take us seriously, dismiss us as partisans (which is apparently only a bad thing if one is conservative) and generally ignore the wealth of information we passed along to the public about one of yours trying to pull the wool over our eyes. We nailed Dan Rather, not you, and you can't stand it.

Last week, you tried to suggest that Republicans booed Bill Clinton after Bush wished him well. We caught you. We got in your face and made you take it back, because you lied. Don't you hate that? We Internet-based losers made you back down, when you felt totally free to mislead the nation about the behavior of some you don't agree with.

It is only going to get worse for you.

You can no longer tell us anything, and expect to be believed without question. You can no longer mix your agendas into your 'news' and expect to get away with it. We may not catch you every time, but eventually we will, and then many of you are going to have to get real jobs. And when you do, you are going to need more than the ability to mislead, lie, slander and ignore people who don't agree with you. In the future, expect for Blogs like Instapundit and others to be on you like a fly on stink when you attempt to mislead us.

Yesterday, you attempted to paint the young LT. Bush as a poor pilot, because he attempted multiple landings a few times while flying a training jet. Stories like this are the reason why Network News has lost half of its audience over the last 10 years. Could not one of you pampered info-princes figure out that a military pilot WANTS to practice landings as much has he/she possibly can? I guess not, when you are blinded by ideology to the degree that any information you receive can only be interpreted in the negative.

You want to call Bush AWOL, but you don't want to talk about his hundreds of flying hours in a jet that has killed lesser aviators, you only want to discuss what furthers your agenda, because you know that when Democrats win, YOU are in charge. You don't want to talk about our President's Master's Degree from Harvard while at the same time Al Gore could not hack Divinity school.

Don't you wish you could regulate us? We know you spend your nights praying to the gods of the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence us. Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere. Too bad we can't say the same for you. It is you who is being silenced as your audience is paying more attention to us, and tuning you OUT. Fox News is in 50 million fewer homes, but they managed to beat you silly during the Republican Convention. How did that happen? US; that's how. Because of us, the Internet, the Blogosphere, Talk Radio and others, the nation no longer see you as the gatekeepers of information.

Take a lesson MSM, though it hurts, try a little fairness. Give balance a shot, and stop being a mouthpiece for the liberal agenda. Pretend if you must, that Conservatives are not Neanderthals long enough to get through a news segment. I know it must hurt to not be able to prove your superiority to us in all that you do and say, but try it.

Finally, just embrace the horror, folks. You might actually learn something from us merry bands of 'amateur' journalists. You see, we don't have an audience to please. We don't have to sell ad-space, or get face-lifts to keep our jobs. That leaves us free to share information on the subjects we might know a little something about without angering our liberal masters. On Free Republic, you can at times find as many threads angry at Republicans as you can Democrats. We don't have to hire experts, if we don't know something, we can ask a fellow FReeper or use Google, much faster than you can pay someone to tell you what you want to hear.

On Free Republic alone, there are experts in many fields. We have writers, poets, engineers, aviators, artists, journalists, (they keep that on the down-low), lawyers, historians, teachers, politicians, current and former members of all branches of the military; all who actually know what they are talking about without having a script (or DNC talking points) shoved in their face.

The choice is yours, MSM. You can join us in working to share information with a hungry audience, or you can be replaced. We don't need Nielson, just a web site and an idea. Instead of insulting the remainder of your dwindling viewers, readers and listeners, why don't you just agree to cut the crap, stop the parroting of the NY Times long enough to do your own work, and finally decide to become REAL journalists again.

I'm not saying we are journalists; we have jobs and careers beyond 'he-said-she-said'. We do like to share what we know, and we don't even get it right every time. However, the truth is in the numbers. We have them and they are growing, while yours are shrinking more rapidly every day. If you don't change your ways and soon, you are going to become irrelevant before this decade is over. Many of you already are. We only tune in to 'Petah' Jennings to watch him bravely strain to keep his composure whenever he has to report a Democrat election defeat. On a good night Chris Matthews total viewership barely equals the number of viewers on the Oxygen network.

The trends are in our favor. If you don't wise up, we will kick your agenda-driven ass.

I'm Pukin Dog.


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KEYWORDS: bias; blogs; cbs; cronkite; danrather; davidosborne; documents; fake; forged; larryking; lies; media; mediabias; mediawingofthednc; msm; napalminthemorning; pukindogrocks; rathergate
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To: Pukin Dog

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501 posted on 09/12/2004 5:09:34 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Pukin Dog

502 posted on 09/12/2004 5:11:20 AM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Mr. K

LL Bean is definately going to get my letter.


503 posted on 09/12/2004 5:20:17 AM PDT by voicereason (John Kerry would just be a plain hamburger if it weren't for the Heinz!)
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To: Pukin Dog; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
I rarely take the time to read a "rant" but I made an exception in this case.....

Very well said my FRiend, and I am happy to bounce this rant....

BTTT !!

Passing it on....

David

P.S. I am also adding a link to this on my personal website.....

504 posted on 09/12/2004 5:25:23 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: Pukin Dog
Wow, if you were sick when you wrote that, imagine how great it'd be if you were well!
505 posted on 09/12/2004 5:27:13 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Pukin Dog
I didn't see this until this morning. Excellent work, and just what I needed to read!

I am tired of having to put up with the ignorance and partisanship of the MSM. Your rant is as good as Zell's speech!

506 posted on 09/12/2004 5:29:11 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Brilliant
He also complained that there was no check on the bloggers. To me, it seems that he's really complaining that the bloggers have now placed a check on the networks.

Yes, that's it. The Internet community has evolved into a watch dog of the MSM. Bloggers may get aspects to a news story incorrect, but their take on things can get vetted by hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, and the truth usually surfaces. We vet ourselves and we vet the news organizations, especially on important issues.

507 posted on 09/12/2004 5:30:15 AM PDT by demlosers (52 days left until the Kerry campaign is put out of its misery.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I am sure, without going through all the comments, that this has been said many times. Nonetheless, Pukin Dog:

Congratulations, You Nailed It.

508 posted on 09/12/2004 5:31:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: davidosborne

BTTT!!!!! The mainstream media is not our frined, it's our enemy and anyone who takes up for them is our enemy also.


509 posted on 09/12/2004 5:34:11 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Pukin Dog

Declaration of Independence BUMP


510 posted on 09/12/2004 5:37:33 AM PDT by gdzla
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To: Congressman Billybob
No No No. That was my embellishment / vent on the original quote. Definitly my F'n. Sorry for the confusion.

Instapundit posted the quote below on 9-10-04. Not sure Instapundit had the exact quote. might have to get a transcript for that.

JUST CAUGHT Jonathan Klein debating Stephen Hayes about the CBS forgery scandal. Klein says that "Bloggers have no checks and balances . . . [it's] a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas."

511 posted on 09/12/2004 5:38:03 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: E.G.C.

But yet look at the millions who still don't get it my FRiend...


512 posted on 09/12/2004 5:38:22 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: Pukin Dog

Dog, as you were, my comments were addressed to the MSM, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


513 posted on 09/12/2004 5:40:41 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Pukin Dog

Love the rant
Thats why I had to finally register, instead of just reading all the posts. If the MSM thinks FR is a bunch of right wing lunatics then I should fit in just fine.
btw- gotta get me some of them "superman" pajamas


514 posted on 09/12/2004 5:41:08 AM PDT by DeepInTheHeartOfTexas (There once was a man from Nantuckett.............)
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To: Pukin Dog

Q-1.


515 posted on 09/12/2004 5:42:13 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Pukin Dog

Congratulations. You have obviously touched a FReeper nerve. :-)



"New Media Manifesto" bump!


516 posted on 09/12/2004 5:43:02 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Pukin Dog
Rant was good, here's a website to help get rid of Rather

http://s91935771.onlinehome.us/

517 posted on 09/12/2004 5:45:32 AM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: tom paine 2

Gonzo Dog! Tell it like it is brother freeper!


518 posted on 09/12/2004 5:48:55 AM PDT by libs_kma (If J effin K doesn't support your position now...just talk to him and he will...in a nuanced way)
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To: arasina
I don't wear pajamas. Petronski does, though. :o)

Ahem. They're called 'jammies' thank you very much. ;O)

519 posted on 09/12/2004 5:50:02 AM PDT by Petronski (With what? Spitballs!?!)
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To: Pukin Dog

The Old Media is now in the same position as the old communist ruling party in the Soviet Union at the time of Gorbachev.

They knew it was over, but were just trying to hang on a little longer........


520 posted on 09/12/2004 5:51:53 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: FredZarguna
This is what Jonathan Klien of CBS thinks of all of us based on his quote captured at Instapundit

"Bloggers have no checks and balances . . . [it's] a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas."

I think we have been misunderestimated. ;-)

521 posted on 09/12/2004 5:52:00 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

hey, are there are "official" pjs????


522 posted on 09/12/2004 5:53:23 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Sacajaweau
What are pajamas?

let's not go there

523 posted on 09/12/2004 5:54:25 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Pukin Dog

Not too shabby. : )

This is one of the best threads I've seen in a while.


524 posted on 09/12/2004 5:54:35 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Pukin Dog
BRAVO!</font size>

*GIVES STANDING OVATION*

525 posted on 09/12/2004 5:55:22 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (--Your message could post here--)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Oops! Forgive my haste, I was overcome by the speech...


526 posted on 09/12/2004 5:56:35 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (--Your message could post here--)
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To: davidosborne

Posted by Pukin Dog
On News/Activism ^ 09/11/2004 10:26:18 PM EDT · 525 replies · 8,517+ views


527 posted on 09/12/2004 5:59:13 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: OCCASparky
Time for me to get off my first post soapbox...

And by the way, I meant to address that but was in a hurry last night.

That was an excellent first post and I hope you never step down again. We need each and every one of you lurkers to sign up and join the New Media. I'm amazed at how many new people are signing up or posting or the 1st time on this thread. Cool!

528 posted on 09/12/2004 5:59:38 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Nita Nupress
I'm amazed at how many new people are signing up or posting for the 1st time on this thread.

Because, as you can see, spelling or typing skills do not matter. :-)

529 posted on 09/12/2004 6:02:41 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: LadyX

Maggie, you've got to read this thread. It will make your day.


530 posted on 09/12/2004 6:02:45 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Congressman Billybob

I'll create another with a robe....


531 posted on 09/12/2004 6:02:50 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset • www.2asisters.org • www.cantheban.net)
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To: Pukin Dog
well said!

Sue CBS!

532 posted on 09/12/2004 6:04:51 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Pukin Dog

Hey!!!!
You are forgiven for ranting!
I do that too!
God bless you for the truth!

The media has been in the pocket of socialism, and communism, and anti-Americanism for such a long time.

No longer is it "just a different view-point", or just "the other party", in our two or more party system.

The dnc and media want the death of freedom, as we know it!

Your thoughts represent, I would guess 80% of this Country.
The other 20% are a lost cause. The other 21%-27% or so, just fall for the 20%'s line.


533 posted on 09/12/2004 6:05:44 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: All
From earlier in the thread:
To: Pukin Dog
Here is contact info for some of the companies that sponsor CBS
Have at 'em
viagra
taco bell
campbells soup
L L Bean
Ambien
Iams
3 posted on 09/11/2004 9:28:26 PM CDT by Mr. K

534 posted on 09/12/2004 6:05:44 AM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: USNBandit

BUMP


535 posted on 09/12/2004 6:09:26 AM PDT by fedupjohn
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To: Pukin Dog

Posted by Pukin Dog
On News/Activism ^ 09/11/2004 10:26:18 PM EDT · 525 replies · 8,517+ views


536 posted on 09/12/2004 6:10:20 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

Posted by Pukin Dog
On News/Activism ^ 09/11/2004 10:26:18 PM EDT · 534 replies · 8,632+ views


537 posted on 09/12/2004 6:10:59 AM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: tiki
They aren't internet savvy.

With one exception: Brit Hume. The majority of the FNC bunch, most notably O'Reilly, are too darn lazy to get the facts. Why? Because it requires time and effort to read, compare and analyze all the varied sources/facts/opinions you can find on the net. Much easier to parrot the biased wire sources and schedule some equally uninformed talking heads to duke it out, leaving the public confused and generally turned off.

I've always wondered why Hume doesn't host Fox News Sunday; he's the best they've got.

538 posted on 09/12/2004 6:11:06 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Pukin Dog
We are not amateurs and we are going to kick your butts

Well actually, we are amateurs but that's what makes it even sweeter. In their arrogance they dismissed us and we are definitely going to kick their butts.

539 posted on 09/12/2004 6:11:32 AM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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To: All
Holy crap, you guys! 500+ Responses?

What can I say? I am really happy that everyone liked the rant so much.

Thank you, Everyone.

PD
540 posted on 09/12/2004 6:16:21 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Whew! I'm glad you're on our side.

That's one of the best rants ever. Can I pass it along to some folks?

Slim


541 posted on 09/12/2004 6:17:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Post #47: Note to Big Brother... the Memory Hole is Officialy CLOSED!)
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To: Pukin Dog
The image is clickable @ Allah is in the House
542 posted on 09/12/2004 6:17:50 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Please do, Slim. Thanks.
543 posted on 09/12/2004 6:18:14 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

I have some family that can get it out to the aviation community and subvets. Thanks, and hope you're feeling better.


544 posted on 09/12/2004 6:19:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Post #47: Note to Big Brother... the Memory Hole is Officialy CLOSED!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Just read. RIGHT on target. I'd be interested in comparing FR average IQ to that of the news media.......(We seem a little heavy on engineers, lawyers and PHds. Wonder how many of the MSM made it out of college?)


545 posted on 09/12/2004 6:28:09 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: Rebelbase; jmstein7; Protest Warrior
Everyone here needs to email this to their friends so that it goes around the world spreading the truth.

Can someone in NYC print a copy off and nail it to the door at CBS?

489 posted on 09/12/2004 7:24:16 AM EDT by Rebelbase (Partisan Political Operative) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

546 posted on 09/12/2004 6:34:57 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: Pukin Dog
Pukin Dog

547 posted on 09/12/2004 6:35:03 AM PDT by demlosers (52 days left until the Kerry campaign is put out of its misery.)
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To: tiki

Sadly I think Fox is trying to "buy" the admiration/legitimacy by doing professional courtesy of a free pass.

The fox that was trying to be #1 would have been all over this story in DETAIL and WHO GAVE THE INFORMATION!

I think Fox may have been told to back off or they would look "access" to Kamp Kerry.


548 posted on 09/12/2004 6:37:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Forgive nothing. That was great! Sic 'em!


549 posted on 09/12/2004 6:38:58 AM PDT by Samwise (Kerry is a self-made man. He created a doofus.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Not a rant but a great pukin vent


550 posted on 09/12/2004 6:42:16 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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