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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA: We are NOT Amateurs and we are going to kick your butts.

Posted on 09/11/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 09/11/2004 9:23:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Pukin Dog; Travis McGee; mhking; rdb3; Servant of the 9; Lazamataz; Paul Atreides; Eaker; ...

bookmarked.
adding a link to this to my FR page.
pinging some FRiends.

BRILLIANT.

Pukin Dog, I salute you.


651 posted on 09/12/2004 10:35:52 AM PDT by King Prout (civilization is a veneereal disease)
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To: armymarinemom
I heard a Dem. talking head today start with the "What the poor current Military and their families must think" line today



Everyone I have spoken to who is returned military or current military family is out there saying the same thing. The troops come back and tell everyone to not believe the media because it is lies. Everywhere I go, these families are telling others. I tell folks to read the Iraq blogs and the military blogs for the truth. Sometimes I have to explain that these are interactive, real time discussions linked to news articles and other POV, but often, I see head nods areound the group. People KNOW!.

Tell your kids Thank You for their service to America and to liberty. We love them all.
652 posted on 09/12/2004 10:38:55 AM PDT by reformedliberal (W stands for WINNER!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Another thing I hear folks saying:"After I watch a speech, I don't need some talking head to tell me what I heard or how to think about it". Like you, these aren't my best friends, only, but it is a commonly-held view of a majority cross-section of American life.


653 posted on 09/12/2004 10:42:59 AM PDT by reformedliberal (W stands for WINNER!)
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To: null and void
A Boston TV Party

good one!

654 posted on 09/12/2004 10:42:59 AM PDT by King Prout (civilization is a veneereal disease)
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To: Pharmboy; Pukin Dog

And scientists.


655 posted on 09/12/2004 10:43:23 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: King Prout
*blush* Thank yew!
656 posted on 09/12/2004 10:45:25 AM PDT by null and void (the mockery of life in a galvanized body)
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To: Pukin Dog

We're mad as hell and we ain't taking it no more!

Nice one PD.


657 posted on 09/12/2004 10:46:01 AM PDT by Bullish
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To: Old Professer
I can't take my computer to the bathroom,

No problem.


658 posted on 09/12/2004 10:49:05 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Right On!....Write on!...We are here and they can't control "the message" anymore!


659 posted on 09/12/2004 10:49:13 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Were you in your pajamas when you wrote that?

No, naked as a jaybird. It is HOT in Mira Mesa. Too hot for clothes. Just a towel on my computer chair.

660 posted on 09/12/2004 10:53:46 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Pukin Dog, you are a DAMN good writer.


661 posted on 09/12/2004 10:55:33 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Pukin Dog; Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; ...
Well worth the vent.

I've excerpted the letter (and linked to it) and added some of my own commentary at http://mhking.mu.nu/archives/045499.php I don't have the Instapundit readership, but I reach enough folks (and enough who may get word back to Glenn!) to get some attention....

662 posted on 09/12/2004 10:55:51 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Pukin Dog
PD,

Where I'm from, you just single-handedly gave out what we call a family ass-whippin'!

I wish I were where you are so I could shake your hand on an outstanding piece. Wonderful!


$710.96... The price of freedom.
VII-XXIII-MMIV

663 posted on 09/12/2004 11:01:06 AM PDT by rdb3 ("The Republican Party is the ship and all else is the sea." ---Frederick Douglass)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

Pukin Dog's open letter to the liberal media establishment...

664 posted on 09/12/2004 11:04:35 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: Pukin Dog; Americanwolfsbrother

Rant on DOG! Rant on!


665 posted on 09/12/2004 11:05:14 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Zell Miller for Secretary of Defense against liberals! (jeez spitballs.. now thats funny!))
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To: Reb Raider

PING!


666 posted on 09/12/2004 11:06:01 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Pukin Dog

The more times the media tries to slander Free Republic, the more traffic it generates here and the more members (and even converts) it creates.

Their early attempts at smearing Rush Limbaugh failed as well (I remember when he was a guest host on Pat Sajak's tv show).


667 posted on 09/12/2004 11:07:27 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: Pukin Dog
Well then what you wrote must be even more false.. I mean. have you ever seen the Emmey award winning Rather and his Emmy award winning crew with anything less than a shirt and pants on? Didn't think so!

Seriously They must be right and you must be wrong! ;}Heeheee.. What a bunch of arrogant idiots they are. Everyone knows the bigger you are the harder you fall!

668 posted on 09/12/2004 11:11:03 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (It's not Bush's fault... it's the media's fault!)
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To: Pukin Dog
On Free Republic alone, there are experts in many fields. We have writers, poets, engineers, aviators, artists, journalists, (they keep that on the down-low), lawyers, historians, teachers, politicians, current and former members of all branches of the military; all who actually know what they are talking about without having a script (or DNC talking points) shoved in their face.

This is true of talk radio (like Rush's show) as well. Rush knows that if he makes a mistake in facts or assumptions about something like an airplane, he will soon get a call from someone who has a detailed working knowledge of that field.

FR has the benefit of having no "call screener" to keep the number of topics at a minimum. The Admin Moderator serves a thankless task of keeping the trolls out, the duplicate threads to a minimum, the flamewars under control, and the copyright lawsuit infractions out.

Also the internet permits quick hyperlinking to earlier threads/related articles that allow people to come into a story already in progress without much repeat of the basic facts.

FR is successful where other blogs are not so strong because there are FReepers around the world, on mailing lists of all sorts, reading/listening to news reports from all over. When something makes it to FR, it is sourced (not just accepted as "fact") and even kicked around awhile.

We have had live observers at numerous historical events.

How many "journalists" just retype existing wireservice stories?

669 posted on 09/12/2004 11:15:31 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: null and void

"Another freeper has already likened this to a 21st century BOSTON TEA PARTY!!!Hmmmmm.
A Boston TV Party..."

How about A BOSTON PAJAMA PARTY.....?

By the way Pukin' Dog - this is more 5han a rant - it's a manifestp - wonderful


670 posted on 09/12/2004 11:17:05 AM PDT by Lexington Green (It just ain't right to ask an American soldier to salute John Kerry.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm piling onto this thread a little late because I don't often read vanity posts. I'm glad I read this one. This is much more than a vanity. In fact, it could appropriately be titled: "The New Media Manifesto". Very well done and I hope it gets a lot of circulation.


671 posted on 09/12/2004 11:23:02 AM PDT by lonevoice (The emperor has no medals!)
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To: Pukin Dog; TheMom; humblegunner; Flyer
Yer forgiven!

Great rant!

672 posted on 09/12/2004 11:25:20 AM PDT by Eaker (Deer Camp North Gives a Whole New Meaning to Labor Day Weekend!!!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Collective intelligence. They don't like that one bit!




Too bad, eh? And from the people who believe "It Takes A Village", too.

Careful what you wish for.


673 posted on 09/12/2004 11:28:43 AM PDT by reformedliberal (W stands for WINNER!)
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To: mhking
Hey, I just visited your site. Good stuff. I'll be a frequent viewer.
674 posted on 09/12/2004 11:30:10 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: spokeshave

We were professionals before we were amatuers.


675 posted on 09/12/2004 11:30:14 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Pukin Dog

Bravo! The Declaration of Independence from the MSM.


676 posted on 09/12/2004 11:31:40 AM PDT by anonymous_user ("F" is for Forgery.)
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To: bt_dooftlook

Yep.


677 posted on 09/12/2004 11:32:20 AM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: Peach
Do your darned jobs or be forever irrelevant.

As a CIO of a small company, and a Deacon in the Catholic Church, I couldn't agree more. Like Pukin Dog stated; we are not a bunch of amateurs or immature kids. And we are fed up with the liberal socialist secularist bias that exists in the commentary delivered by so-called journalists day in and day out.

678 posted on 09/12/2004 11:38:22 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm mad as ZELL, and I aint gonna take it anymore.


679 posted on 09/12/2004 11:39:49 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: Pukin Dog

They accused us of a VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY! They will rue the day they woke this sleeping giant.


680 posted on 09/12/2004 11:42:55 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: Pukin Dog
I'm speechless. You said it all.

I will be sending this on. Why do I get the feeling this could end up in a history book, something in the (not-too-distant, I hope) future?

681 posted on 09/12/2004 11:43:26 AM PDT by PosterQue (How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside. - Zell Miller)
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To: just truth please; Peach
Followin' right behind you, with just 8 1/4 years to go.

Even when I have FNC on, it is muted. I listen if it looks interesting and when the lefty flack-catchers are on, the sounds goes off, again.

But let's not be too hard on Peach, who is an outstanding FReeper, researcher, linker and all around soldier for truth. Thank you, Peach. I have long admired your contributions here.

IMO, the people who only watch network broadcast news are the people who simply refuse to pay for TV. While some are older, many are just incapable of change, no matter what their age.
682 posted on 09/12/2004 11:43:29 AM PDT by reformedliberal (W stands for WINNER!)
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To: All
Heard some yee-haw on Fox yesterday (I think it was yesterday morning) who made the comment that the bloggers were a bunch of people sitting in their living rooms wearing pajamas posting their opinions. The commentator (sorry, can't remember who) said, "Well, we shouldn't characterize them in quite that way", or words to that effect. He's right. I am not wearing pajamas. I am, instead, dressed appropriately for a near-afternoon Sunday wearing my ball gown and tiara. (And I'm not eatin' chitlins, either).

These guys from the opposition are SOOOO DEEEEP with such well-thought-out arguments, aren't they? We must be having SOME impact. Listen to how they put us down.

683 posted on 09/12/2004 11:47:42 AM PDT by Max7 (.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; nutmeg; davidosborne
Dubya:
FreeRepublic.com
IS the "Best
site on the
'Net!"

Well said, Meek!


684 posted on 09/12/2004 11:49:08 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry's testimony before the Senate was instrumental to America's defeat in the Vietnam War)
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To: Pukin Dog
Your analysis is excellent.

Dems and CBS have a lot to lose -- and they're desperate. CBS might not be honest or honorable, but they know the game and how to cheat the game. And how to take us down -- they've turned manipulation of public opinion into the art form. And they hate us. They'll use every dirty trick they have. I fear the "th" thing might be a set up. The other parts are solid and probably beyond what they had considered. But let's be ready for their "gotcha". If we're right on a thousand points, and they're right on one point, that "one" will be the only story. We need to be ready.

Somewhere in my memory is a typewriter with the "th" on one key. I'm thinking Smith Corona - home model - light blue. The kind of machine rich liberal parents would give their kids as they went off to college in the 60's or early 70's. I wouldn't bet my life on this vague memory, but this whole CBS thing could be a twofer -- to discredit the new media - and to cast doubt on Bush. We can be thankful our guys discovered more than just the "th". The truth will hold.

Don't you wish you could regulate us? We know you spend your nights praying to the gods of the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence us. Sorry, but we are here, and we are not going anywhere. Too bad we can't say the same for you. It is you who is being silenced as your audience is paying more attention to us, and tuning you OUT. Fox News is in 50 million fewer homes, but they managed to beat you silly during the Republican Convention. How did that happen? US; that's how. Because of us, the Internet, the Blogosphere, Talk Radio and others, the nation no longer see you as the gatekeepers of information.

685 posted on 09/12/2004 11:50:15 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: reformedliberal; Peach
But let's not be too hard on Peach, who is an outstanding FReeper, researcher, linker and all around soldier for truth. Thank you, Peach. I have long admired your contributions here.

Let me second that. Nobody better mess with Peach, or they will answer to the Dog. Peach is Peachy.

686 posted on 09/12/2004 11:54:31 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: GOPJ
Oh, I think we ARE ready. We are watching them. There is no set up. Don't forget the kerning, curly apostrophes, text centering, and other aspects of the document that cannot have been produced on a typewriter. My browsing of various news services today, show a accepted determination of the documents being forgeries. I think its over for CBS. They have no choice but to back-peddle.
687 posted on 09/12/2004 12:00:15 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks for the 'rant'. Never before have I read completely through a thread this long. Never before have my own thoughts of the MSM been expressed as well as you have. I will do my part in getting this the greatest possible distribution.

You deserve a good ole southern 'Atta Boy'.


688 posted on 09/12/2004 12:09:05 PM PDT by Techster
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To: Pukin Dog

Well said, but a little long winded. I am surprised I read it all. Only comment, "In the future, ... for Blogs like Instapundit and others." Change to In the future, ... for Blogs like FreeRepublic and others.

It was great to note that the term MSM, Main Steam Media, was picked up by FOX. I would like to think that the revolt flamed by the bloggers here caused MSM to give rise to FOX which airs both sides and thus exposes the rst of MSM for their bias.

Thansk PUKIN DOG and thank FOX, and I do not mean PUKIN FOX.


689 posted on 09/12/2004 12:30:40 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Rock on, brother, rock on!


690 posted on 09/12/2004 12:33:36 PM PDT by Archytekt
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To: Pukin Dog

Normally when a Pukin Dog vents it isn't something you want any part of! But this vent is as sweet smelling as a rose to this Freeper.


691 posted on 09/12/2004 12:39:49 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (hey, hey, ho, ho ... Kerry, sign the one-eight-oh!)
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marker


692 posted on 09/12/2004 12:45:11 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: FairOpinion; Jim Robinson; Seeking the truth
One of the MSM defenders, I forget who, impuned the bloggers and internet posters the other day "just a bunch of guys in their bathrobes sitting at their computers".

Should there be FreeRepublic merchandise as a premium for support, etc., I would die for an official FR bathrobe. I'd even settle for an iron-on patch to modify my own!

693 posted on 09/12/2004 12:50:25 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (hey, hey, ho, ho ... Kerry, sign the one-eight-oh!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Forgive the rant?!! No way!! That was just awesome, PD!!


694 posted on 09/12/2004 12:56:01 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: NonValueAdded

Hey, I want one,too! A FR bathrobe would be excellent! Terry,flannel, t-shirt fabric?

Personally, I want a navy blue terry with a tasteful red, white & blue insignia.


P.S.You can make that patch, you know, with iron on fabric that can be printed by your computer.


695 posted on 09/12/2004 12:57:05 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Techster
Never before have I read completely through a thread this long.

Wasn't it fulfilling to do so? You'll have to try it more often my friend. Although it can be time-consuming, it's often time well spent!

696 posted on 09/12/2004 1:02:39 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you, PD. I also sent emails to LLBean, Iams and Campbell Soup stating I would not purchase any of their products until Dan Rather retracts the story and declares the documents as forgeries.


697 posted on 09/12/2004 1:31:38 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Pukin Dog; Real Rush; holdonnow

I've been here for awhile, and I'm still learning about 'the media.'

More now than when I first showed up.

Back during the the heady days when we had Drudge coming in giving us the details of his scoop on the site as they happened.

The thread had the editors at the post, and producers at CNN.com and MSNBC quivering in their boots and hand wringing all night.

I would participate in the thread, and watch it be re-discussed in detail on the cable TV air..

No credit to FR offered on the cable/public air..

Not really caring anyway. Because they know and I know the real story behind the story...

Yesterday Rush Limbaugh said he's the original member of the 'new media.'

I fully agree..

Because before I ever heard of the internet, I heard him describe on the radio why he thought that e-mail was a very important tool...

I checked it out, and by golly he nailed that one right out of the park.

Many important things have happened here.

When those things happened, I declared the thread associated those things as the best ever etc.

This one ranks right up there..

Think Global Act Local

The punks that came up with the bumper sticker probably didn't have Freerepublic.com in mind..

Oh well.....

It is what we are, in a very pure form..

Freerepublic.com will be available soon on a digital TV near you...

Various US Senators will try to stop it or slow it down this year..

We will not let them do it in the dark..

That's a good thing IMHO.

ciao
TT


698 posted on 09/12/2004 1:44:17 PM PDT by Trailer Trash (Force equals mass times acceleration.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Les Batards!


699 posted on 09/12/2004 2:08:20 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (This case is hotter than a Laredo parking lot, Dan.)
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To: Pukin Dog; Eaker

I would loan you my tool belt, but I see you already nailed it.



I love this place!


700 posted on 09/12/2004 2:12:07 PM PDT by Flyer (Post #47 - A reply that will live in infamy)
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