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Large explosion in North Korea last week-This is Current For Real...
afp ^ | Sat, Sep 11, 200 | na

Posted on 09/11/2004 9:22:24 PM PDT by Flavius

SEOUL (AFP) - A huge explosion rocked North Korea (news - web sites)'s northern inland province of Ryanggang last week, triggering a mushroom cloud at least two miles in radius, South Korea (news - web sites)'s Yonhap news agency said.

Photo AFP/KCNA/file Photo

The explosion appeared to be stronger than an April 22 blast that killed more than 150 people and wounded some 1,300 others in Ryongchon near the western tip of North Korea's border with China, it said Sunday.

The latest blast took place in Kimhyungjik county near the Chinese border on September 9, when North Korea marked the 56th anniversary of its founding, Yonhap said, citing unnamed sources in Beijing.

"The United States was known to have shown its keen interest in the explosion after spotting its traces by satellite," the source was quoted as saying.

South Korea's unification minister Chung Dong-Young said Seoul had received an unsubstantiated report on the explosion in North Korea.

"We have received an unsubstantiated report on traces of an explosion in North Korea," he told reporters after a meeting of security-related officials. The unnamed source in Beijing said the blast had prompted speculation in Washington that the explosion was possibly related to a nuclear experiment, it said.

Chung, however, played down the possibility of a North Korea's nuclear weapons test.

He said the South Korean government was not aware of the scale of the blast but Yonhap quoted a diplomatic source in Seoul as saying the blast triggered a mushroom cloud with a radius of 3.5 to four kilometers (2.4 miles).

"The explosion occurred at around 11 am. But it is not clear yet whether the explosion is related to an intentional nuclear experiment or a simple accident," he was quoted as saying.

He noted the site of the explosion was not far from the North's missile base, according to Yonhap.

The New York Times reported on its Web site Saturday that US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) and his top advisers have received intelligence reports describing a confusing series of actions by North Korea that some experts believe could indicate the country is preparing to conduct its first nuclear weapons test.

Citing unnamed senior officials with access to intelligence, the newspaper said US intelligence agencies appeared divided over the significance of the new North Korean actions.

The suspicious activities included the movement of materials around several suspected test sites, including one near a location where intelligence agencies reported last year that conventional explosives were being tested that could compress a plutonium core and set off a nuclear explosion, The Times said.

But officials have not seen the classic indicators of preparations at a test site, in which cables are laid to measure an explosion in a deep test pit, according to the report.

US officials said if North Korea proceeded with a test, it would probably be with a plutonium bomb, perhaps one fabricated from the 8,000 spent nuclear fuel rods that the North has boasted in the past few months have been reprocessed into bomb fuel, the report pointed out.

However, some analysts in agencies that were the most cautious about Iraq (news - web sites)'s alleged weapons of mass destruction have cautioned that they do not believe the activity detected in North Korea in the past three weeks is necessarily the harbinger of a test, The Times reported.

Some analysts fear that a successful nuclear weapon test by North Korea could change the balance of power in Asia, perhaps leading to a new nuclear arms race there, the paper said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nknukes; northkorea

1 posted on 09/11/2004 9:22:25 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

I've reported it before I reported it ...


2 posted on 09/11/2004 9:23:35 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: Flavius
It was reported before it was reported buy YANKED - why? No matter: http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20040912/320000000020040912130313E0.html Mushroom Cloud Spotted at North Korean Border: Sources ... SEOUL, Sept. 12 (Yonhap) -- A reliable source in Seoul's diplomatic community said Sunday that a mushroom cloud with a radius of 3.5 to 4 kilometers was spotted, along with a massive explosion, in Kimhyongjik County in North Korea's northernmost inland province of Yanggang on Sept. 9. "The Sept. 9 explosion occurred at around 11 a.m.,"
3 posted on 09/11/2004 9:27:25 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Flavius

Just can't get the notion out of the back of my mind that maybe our Special Forces have something to do with North Korea's recent spate of "accidents." Certainly hope so, anyway.


4 posted on 09/11/2004 9:29:23 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Henchman
Kerry has initiated contacts with his old friends in Vietnam and the UN. Kerry wishes to innitiate surrender tactics. His PLAN, the first stated in his presidential run, would make Al-Quaeda their problem and end the current state of freedom in the US
5 posted on 09/11/2004 9:30:15 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Flavius

I thought it was common knowledge that NK had some nukes.

Does anyone think they don't ?

Am I the one that is confused about this ?


6 posted on 09/11/2004 9:30:52 PM PDT by Tobor
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To: noiseman
You've been watching too many movies
7 posted on 09/11/2004 9:31:20 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Flavius

Yeah, I saw your deleted article (per your request) after I read the news on Yahoo. I was wondering "what the heck" and then this one pops up.

You're quick Flavius.

Now, does anyone (with their tinfoil hat on) think that these were both "accidents" or could "someone" have assisted in their detonation. Hmmmm.

happydogx2


8 posted on 09/11/2004 9:31:25 PM PDT by happydogx2 (Let Freedom Reign!!)
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To: Flavius
The first indications of Chernobyl were radiation reading off the scale in Sweden. This was before the soviets admitted to an accident.

Any sign of increased radiation in the vicinity?

9 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:07 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The Swiftboat Vets - Patriotic Americans STILL serving their country!)
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To: Henchman

I can understand the govt's silent reaction to such an event. But a blast this size would be captured on seismic instruments allover the world. Most of those are not controlled by any govt. Why would they keep an atomic test by NK quiet.?


10 posted on 09/11/2004 9:32:49 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: noiseman

Special forces like in high-altitude bomb drop from a B1 or B2 on a site being prepared by NK to test a weapon???


11 posted on 09/11/2004 9:33:00 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: happydogx2

I know it crazy aint it? There weas another thread on someone posting an translation...

Thats when I started looking for it saw the first one the wrong one... so i posted that...

Now this one started to pop up on news media outlets...

Its a crazy world we live in thats a fact...


12 posted on 09/11/2004 9:33:04 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: Flavius

There's no point to a zillion postings of the original Yonhap article as regurgitated by every single media outlet on the globe.


13 posted on 09/11/2004 9:35:21 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: happydogx2

Dan Rather has received a memo from a reliable source indicating Mars has launched an attack-- as directed by Karl Rove. Signed "Carl Rowve." Look for this blockbuster on 60 Minutes Sunday night.


14 posted on 09/11/2004 9:35:31 PM PDT by Jack Bull
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To: Tobor

Probably confused - this one WENT OFF! FOX reports in a SO SO manner. Kim Spy also reports and states, in part...
09/12 Reports May Indicate N.Korea Nuclear Test

... One senior intelligence official noted that preparations the North knew could be detected by the United States might be a scare ... North Korea, while other(s) ... speculated a test could be intended to influence the U.S. presidential election in November...(John SKarry <sarc?)


15 posted on 09/11/2004 9:35:58 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: VRWCTexan

T.R.O.L.L


16 posted on 09/11/2004 9:36:17 PM PDT by DixieOklahoma
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To: Flavius

EarthQuake Data 9.9.04


http://www.myforecast.com/bin/earthquake.m?city=73327&metric=true


17 posted on 09/11/2004 9:36:47 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: Flavius

humongous kimchi fart


18 posted on 09/11/2004 9:38:28 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece: seeBS -all your forgeries are belong to us)
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To: Rakkasan1

Aww c'mon, I have to go to bed soon. I'll either be up laughing or smelling that sh!t!


19 posted on 09/11/2004 9:39:48 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Flavius

US intelligence will be the first to know when NK fires off an atomic or nuclear weapon. We had lots of practice during the Cold War. You can't pop off one of these weapons and hide it from the US.


20 posted on 09/11/2004 9:43:36 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Flavius


Ref: http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20040912/301100000020040912131751E3.html
excerpt> Alleged Nuclear Test Site Said to House Missile Launch Facilities </excerpt

Y'mean they have a Vanguard project too!

Other news article shows:
Excerpt> Nature of Blast in N. Korea Unclear: U.S. Diplomatic Sources

WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 (Yonhap) -- A diplomatic source here said a huge explosion reported to have occurred in North Korea appears not to be a nuclear weapons test, but said it remains unclear whether it was a natural disaster or an accident.</excerpt


21 posted on 09/11/2004 9:46:15 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: Henchman
STOP! YOU GUYS ARE KILLIN' ME!


22 posted on 09/11/2004 9:50:04 PM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Flavius

Probably Bullshit.


23 posted on 09/11/2004 9:51:08 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: noiseman

This will encourage Iran to get very busy. We'll have to take care of business over there sooner rather than later.


24 posted on 09/11/2004 9:51:46 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Flavius

Nuclear sniffer planes, aloft!


25 posted on 09/11/2004 9:51:57 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (SPITBALLS?!)
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To: Flavius
"10:32:29 AM UTC San Francisco Bay Area, California ( 37.27N, 122.00W )"

HEY! Wait a minute!
I'm at 37N, 122W! DAMN! Nobody tells me nuttin'!

26 posted on 09/11/2004 9:56:08 PM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and the Armed Forces ... Arnold and Zell too!)
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To: Flavius
"What ever you do, don't flip that swit......... "
...OR...
Oops!
27 posted on 09/11/2004 10:08:39 PM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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To: Flavius
"Photo AFP/KCNA/file Photo"

Nice photo.

28 posted on 09/11/2004 10:29:57 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: Flavius; All
He said the South Korean government was not aware of the scale of the blast but Yonhap quoted a diplomatic source in Seoul as saying the blast triggered a mushroom cloud with a radius of 3.5 to four kilometers (2.4 miles).

I was wondering what size blast this would represent, or whether that size was big/small for a nuclear explosion, so I went Googling and found this, concerning first observations of the Hiroshima nuking:

A U.S. Forces observing plane reported that five minutes after the bombing a massive gray cloud about 5 kilometers in diameter was hanging over the center of the city. The mushroom cloud rapidly grew into a gigantic pillar of rolling white smoke, and soon it reached an altitude of about 17,000 meters, spreading out wide at its top.
The Hiroshima bomb had a yield of about 13-15 kilotons. So depending on whether the word "radius" in the NK report is accurate, or an error (reporting the diameter would have made more sense), the NK bomb would be on the order of around 9-10 kilotons, or 20-25 kilotons -- both figures well within the expected range of a "first attempt" plutonium nuclear weapon.
29 posted on 09/11/2004 10:42:06 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Brad Cloven
Aww c'mon now. Nuclear sniffer planes - just because of a little kimchi gas¿
30 posted on 09/12/2004 12:49:17 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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