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North Korea cloud 'not nuke blast'
CNN.com ^ | Sept 12, 2004

Posted on 09/11/2004 11:02:01 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort

SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- A large cloud that appeared over North Korea in satellite images several days ago was not the result of a nuclear explosion, according to a U.S. official.

The U.S. official said the cloud could be the result of a forest fire.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: nknukes; northkorea

1 posted on 09/11/2004 11:02:02 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort

And God didn't make little green apples.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 11:02:54 PM PDT by Just Lori (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Sounds like a crock of crap cover story to me.


3 posted on 09/11/2004 11:03:14 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Tim Dr Hook McCracken

Kinda hard to hide atmospheric radioactivity.


5 posted on 09/11/2004 11:07:18 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort ("Col. Mustard in the Library with a Word Processor")
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To: Leroy S. Mort
There is no way to cover up a nuclear detonation. If it was a nuclear test, the truth will come out. Radiation will be detected through the Pacific over the next few days.
6 posted on 09/11/2004 11:08:27 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

A forest fire? I've seen about 20 links that reported a blast or explosion.


7 posted on 09/11/2004 11:09:47 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (I'm a POP - Political Operative in Pajamas)
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To: COEXERJ145

If this happened Thursday then wouldnt the Japanese and S. Koreans already have detected radiation?


9 posted on 09/11/2004 11:11:12 PM PDT by rdl6989 (<fontface="Rather Not">)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

ok what about the hole in the ground was that dug by chipmunks trying to escape the heat? this doesn't pass the Rather test...


10 posted on 09/11/2004 11:11:46 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Lijahsbubbe

I think you'll find most, if not all, of those links referenced the same Yonhap story.


11 posted on 09/11/2004 11:14:25 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort ("Col. Mustard in the Library with a Word Processor")
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To: Tim Dr Hook McCracken
All of this and N. Koreans are beyond eating tree bark How sad.
12 posted on 09/11/2004 11:17:39 PM PDT by Gazoo
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To: Leroy S. Mort

You are correct sir, and have proven that you are more than qualified to take over Rather's chair!


13 posted on 09/11/2004 11:19:06 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (I'm a POP - Political Operative in Pajamas)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
It's CNN, but I buy it.

We get brushfires out West every summer, and the initial burns plume up a column of white smoke that look just like nuclear 'mushroom clouds'. They're lots bigger than 3 kilometers in size, that's for sure.

If the event happened Thursday, it would have already been worldwide news that it was indeed a nuclear test.

14 posted on 09/11/2004 11:20:37 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: rdl6989
If this happened Thursday then wouldnt the Japanese and S. Koreans already have detected radiation?

I would think so. Chernobyl was detected fairly soon after it happened. We knew within a few days after the Russians exploded their first atomic bomb in 1949.

15 posted on 09/11/2004 11:20:41 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
You are correct sir, and have proven that you are more than qualified to take over Rather's chair!

Do I get to Lysol it first?

16 posted on 09/11/2004 11:21:43 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort ("Col. Mustard in the Library with a Word Processor")
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To: The KG9 Kid
Here's a site that mentions the 'Mushroom Cloud' phenomenae that occur during rapid brushfires:

"... As the late afternoon breezes begin to pick up, the smoke enlarges into a billowing cloud that resembles an atomic bomb explosion. Soon the sun is blotted out by a huge mushroom cloud and the air is filled with ashes and the distant sounds of sirens and air horns. This is a brush fire out of control, a common occurrence in the parched hillsides of southern California and the beginning of one of nature's most fascinating cycles of death and renewal."

17 posted on 09/11/2004 11:24:46 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Gazoo

We can take 'em anytime we want ... just drop tons of Burger King Whoppers in the north end of that country and just walk across the DMZ picking up their dropped rifles as we go.

Seriously, IF this was a nuke, then it changes the overall equation very little. They are still stuck with the same 3 options: Deal, Lose, or Lose BIG.


18 posted on 09/11/2004 11:24:51 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Do I get to Lysol it first?

LOL

19 posted on 09/11/2004 11:26:25 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (I'm a POP - Political Operative in Pajamas)
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To: rdl6989
If this happened Thursday then wouldnt the Japanese and S. Koreans already have detected radiation?

If this was an atmospheric test last week Thursday, then yes there would be radiation that special air planes could have collected over international waters.

We should know by now. When the fertilizer train exploded a month or so back, they first thought it might be a nuclear explosion, but latter realized that it was on heck of a large explosion.

I suspect that what happened is catastrophic no matter what happened.

20 posted on 09/11/2004 11:27:40 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: COEXERJ145

On the other hand, is it conceivable that any other type of blast could have done this. I am beginning to question the accuracy of the "2 1/2 mile" wide mushroom cloud. I doubt it was a "forest fire".


21 posted on 09/11/2004 11:30:04 PM PDT by rdl6989 (<fontface="Rather Not">)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

And Billdo doesn't like interns;

and

Shrillery isn't a Machiavellian, Marxist, traitorous, evil power monger;

And CBS is patriotic and great champion of capitalism and freedoms

. . .

/satire


22 posted on 09/11/2004 11:33:03 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: COEXERJ145

Are there sufficient dectors outside of government/puppet masters heavy handed control?


23 posted on 09/11/2004 11:33:55 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: Quix

I suspect the "Grays" have a hand in this.....


25 posted on 09/11/2004 11:38:03 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort ("Col. Mustard in the Library with a Word Processor")
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To: rdl6989
On the other hand, is it conceivable that any other type of blast could have done this. I am beginning to question the accuracy of the "2 1/2 mile" wide mushroom cloud. I doubt it was a "forest fire".

Right now I'd be highly skeptical of how big the "mushroom cloud" was if it even existed.

But if one did, any explosion can create a cloud that could appear to have come from a nuclear detonation. In 1947 Texas City was destroyed when a ship carrying several thousand tons of ammonium nitrate exploded with the force of a small nuclear device. Pictures and video from the time look like a nuke went off. In 1988 a rocket fuel factory exploded in Nevada with an fireball and cloud that was simply amazing. Just before the Trinity Test in 1945, we stacked up 100 tons of TNT to use as a calibration test for our instruments. A video of it looks like a small nuke going off.

26 posted on 09/11/2004 11:40:20 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

i DON'T know if you're joking or what.

Supposedly all the ET races are fiercely against nukes.

I certainly would expect a coverup from the puppet masters if the timing didn't suit them just right.


27 posted on 09/11/2004 11:48:51 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: COEXERJ145
In 1988 a rocket fuel factory exploded in Nevada with an fireball and cloud that was simply amazing.

I wonder if that might be exactly what happened here?

28 posted on 09/11/2004 11:49:07 PM PDT by rdl6989 (<fontface="Rather Not">)
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To: rdl6989
My vote if for one of two things.

- Some kind if industrial accident involving rocket fuel or high explosives.

- A calibration test using hundreds to thousands of tons of high explosives.

29 posted on 09/11/2004 11:50:39 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: Quix
Supposedly all the ET races are fiercely against nukes.

They WOULD say that, wouldn't they? Hmmmmm.

30 posted on 09/11/2004 11:50:54 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort ("Col. Mustard in the Library with a Word Processor")
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To: Leroy S. Mort

There was a new twist on that issue in the last 6-12 months or so.

Some writer claimed that some race of ET's had claimed that our setting off nukes produced some time/other dimensional perturbation which mangled ET's home worlds or universes or some such.

First I'd read of that notion.

Interesting what some writers come up with.


31 posted on 09/11/2004 11:53:40 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: COEXERJ145

I am SOOOO glad that I live in the Southern Hemisphere..


32 posted on 09/11/2004 11:54:13 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! KERRY EDWARDS... Forging ahead...)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Obviously an exploding flashlight.


33 posted on 09/11/2004 11:54:59 PM PDT by PaleoPal
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Synchronized flatulence?

After all, don't Communists do EVERYTHING in lockstep?!

34 posted on 09/11/2004 11:57:48 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Tim Dr Hook McCracken
If it was a nuke going off we will never know about it.

The media sure as hell doesn't want us knowing about it either, because it would just legitimize a lot of what Bush has been saying.

35 posted on 09/12/2004 12:44:17 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Leroy S. Mort

The DU posters have it as a forest fire


36 posted on 09/12/2004 3:42:12 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: Lurking2Long

...and unfortunately one of them decided to light a cigarette. This could have serious impact on the ozone, we need to send in Greenpeace on this one.


37 posted on 09/12/2004 3:46:51 AM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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To: Gazoo

The U.S. official said the cloud could be the result of a forest fire.
All of this and N. Koreans are beyond eating tree bark How sad.
Maybe they're toasting their tree bark before they eat it.(sarcasm/humor)


38 posted on 09/12/2004 3:56:47 AM PDT by airborne (2/504 PIR - 'Devils In Baggy Pants')
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To: COEXERJ145
A calibration test using hundreds to thousands of tons of high explosives.
Hmm... interesting idea... it'll be clearer once the exact spot of the big boom is known, y'know, because it looks like a lot of people live and work in that area, and of course, it's near the border with China.

39 posted on 09/12/2004 9:53:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Can you say Space Based Laser?


40 posted on 09/12/2004 9:19:34 PM PDT by 7thOF7th ("Let's follow the lead, I'd hate to be a free thinker" (second lemming to the third))
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To: All

Just watched Behind Enemy Lines 2. They insinuate that this blast was a result of a covert operation on a missile site performed by a combined U.S./S. Korean force.

Fantastic movie.


41 posted on 10/18/2006 5:00:33 PM PDT by Gumption
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To: Leroy S. Mort
The U.S. official said the cloud could be the result of a forest fire.

With the teeny tiny chance that the 1 KT blast in a COAL mine ignited it.....

42 posted on 10/18/2006 5:02:41 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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