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Slime Time Live (Possible clue to source of CBS Story)
Newsweek ^ | Sept. 20 issue | Howard Fineman and Michael Isikoff

Posted on 09/12/2004 12:26:09 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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To: NEPA
I think Burkett must be some kind of nut with a huge (hugh?) chip on his shoulder, exactly the kind of person who would tell whoppers (Bush's people came to the office to destroy records) and compose bad forgeries.

Mystery solved.

I would tend to agree...except for one teeny, weeny, little thing.

Say you are Dan Rather, or the CBS producer, Mary Mapes. Are you buying what Burkett's selling? Given your ragin biases, you'd want to, sure. But would you trust Burkett enough to grant him "umimpeachable source" status? Indeed, enough to stake your professional reputation on his crapped-out credibility?

The left is desperate, be be sure. But are they that desperate?

Even if Burkett is the "source" of these memos, somebody else would be vouching for him. Somebody hefty enough that Rather can trust enough to go out on a limb for him...

161 posted on 09/12/2004 10:00:15 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: shrinkermd
I believe this quote came after the last election and before the Iraq War. It surely indicates troubling thinking closely to akin to paranoid delusions; however, taken out of context no definitive statement can be made.

If Burkett plays a part in these memos, then the key to his reasoning is crucial to understand how and why he obtained these phoney documents.

Bill Burkett in his own words.

162 posted on 09/12/2004 10:16:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
...And in 73 as well.

Which is now!

163 posted on 09/12/2004 10:19:47 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: NEPA
You may be right..... *************************** USA TODAY obtained copies of the documents independently soon after the 60 Minutes segment aired Wednesday, from a person with knowledge of Texas Air National Guard operations. The person refused to be identified out of fear of retaliation. It is unclear where the documents, if they are real, had been kept in the intervening three decades.

More here.

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Sounds suspiciously like Bill Burkett...

164 posted on 09/13/2004 12:18:46 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Mo1

Is the Open Society institute that organization of Karl Popper's disciples who have little if anythingin common with Mr. Popper himself?


165 posted on 09/13/2004 3:50:19 AM PDT by Cosmo (There are no memos of mass destruction, no stockpiles, no reconstituted nuclear memo programs)
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To: Cosmo

First I've heard of his name


166 posted on 09/13/2004 5:27:45 AM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Southack
You need to post a barf alert -- I thought that was your stuff for a while!
167 posted on 09/13/2004 12:15:13 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Mo1
Or is it just convinent to dump it on him ??

You think that whoever at CBS decided to take the flyer, maybe saw Burkett as a fusible link, a sacrificial source if it went south?

168 posted on 09/13/2004 12:23:11 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

No .. I think he is involved .. I just think some higher ups at CBS are going to pass the buck and make sure someone else gets blamed for this


169 posted on 09/13/2004 12:36:54 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Mo1
No .. I think he is involved .. I just think some higher ups at CBS are going to pass the buck and make sure someone else gets blamed for this

I think we ought to take it out on Les Moonves, and then on his way out the door he can tell us where he thinks we might profitably make some changes down the wiring diagram.

170 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:28 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: okie01
Careful about "diagnosing" Burkett.

Newsweek's article -- I presume it was Isikoff's, who is a good journalist as his performance in Monicagate shows -- made the point that Burkett is a classic Dudley Do-Right, whistleblower type. If he got a burr under his saddle at Governor Bush and his political types (Joe Allbaugh is a certified Bush Kool-Aid drinker deluxe), then yes, he'd be like a dog with a bone, and it wouldn't mean he's nuts. Let's be fair. He isn't impartial, and he may even be biased, but careful about saying he's "delusional", if he says he was in the room when the political people started talking about scrubbing Bush's service file.

Because, let's face it, there was something to scrub -- that order to report to the Denver ARF office, which I looked at, nobody is contesting as a genuine document, and likewise his separation paper from the Texas ANG. Bush either booted or gundecked his last year of obligation to the ANG, in order to help someone out in an Alabama campaign, and then to enroll in Harvard. The degree to which Bush took his ANG obligation seriously is fairly open to question on the extant documentation, and so it isn't outside the realm of possibility that Burkett attended a meeting of the character that he claims took place. Bush admits he took his life less seriously than he should have when he was younger, and it's understandable that Bush's political people would have their hair on fire if they found out that a fat file was still extant that had uncomplimentary fitness reports, administrative thundergrams, and various other signs of official displeasure in it.

If Bush and his political aides decided not to go the full-hangout route about his drinking and goofing off, that was their decision. I think it was a mistake, given Bush's reconstruction of his life later on, but people will differ. But the point is, none of this (yet) warrants taking it out on Burkett, if he bristled and decided to be a pain in the ass over issues he had with Bush's performance.

Now, if Burkett is finally the source of the forged memos (but see Dallas Mike's post above), then all bets are off -- hang him high. But not yet.

171 posted on 09/13/2004 2:22:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: grey_whiskers
The thing you need to keep in mind is the time line of the story. Dan has been trying to get CBS to air this story since the early part of this year and all of these postings fall into that time frame.

I guess that with the beating Kerry has been taking over his Viet Nam records, they felt that they had to do something, like put the final nail in Kerry's political campaign.
172 posted on 09/13/2004 5:01:29 PM PDT by RHSOB (Look towards the shadows, that's where the action is!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Thanks for the insight.

Much appreciated.

173 posted on 09/13/2004 6:42:42 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: conservative in nyc

Bev Harris and Talion return to see if Freepers have pockets as deep as those at DU :
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3487281/posts?page=35


174 posted on 10/31/2016 1:46:47 PM PDT by piasa
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