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CBS Lies. Will Dan Rather Get Away With It This Time?
ChronWatch ^ | 12 September 2004 | Doc Farmer

Posted on 09/13/2004 5:47:30 AM PDT by DocFarmer

CBS Lies. Will Dan Rather Get Away With It This Time?

Written by Doc Farmer

Sunday, September 12, 2004

Last week, 60 Minutes The Sequel (This Time It's Personal) ran a hard-hitting no-hold-barred investigative report trashing President George W. Bush. This is the fourth or fifth time CBS News has done this. Normally, this is done in the fashion of taking Bush-bashing books being sold by a publisher owned by the parent company of CBS News (Viacom) and doing puffball interviews with the authors. This time, however, CBS decided to raise, ad nauseum, the already discredited canard regarding Dubya's National Guard service.

Dan Rather interviewed a completely unbiased former Lt. Governor of Texas, one Mr. Ben Barnes, who regretted helping out Dubya by interceding on his behalf with the TXANG. Odd thing, though – Mr. Barnes wasn't Lt. Governor at the time he said he ''helped out'' the Bush family. Mr. Barnes is also a major contributor to the DNC and a big booster of Jean François Kerrée.

This is nothing new for CBS News, of course. ''Fair and Balanced'' it most definitely is not--by any stretch of the imagination. So, it's really not a shock that Dan Rather would do a softball interview with yet another Bush-whacker. His big mistake, it would appear, was to try and back up his political viewpoint with documentary evidence.

As we all know, CBS News obtained four documents, purportedly written in 1972 by Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, that supports the oft-repeated claim of Dubya's failure to complete assigned duties in the National Guard. CBS News vetted the papers with signature and document experts, people who supposedly know what they're doing, and declared them genuine. Thirty years ago, that would probably have been enough. CBS News says the documents are genuine so, to coin a phrase, ''that’s the way it is.''

That was then. This is now. That's not the way it is any more.

CBS News, in an effort to prove just how nifty it is, decided to make the evidence available on the Internet. Folks (like me) downloaded them. It didn't take long for folks like me to question the validity of those four documents. Now, I'm the first to admit that I didn't pick up on the subtleties of the missing items to begin with. However, others did. Then more. Word spread, and a bunch of ''amateurs'' started to see stuff that CBS News ''experts'' seemed to miss, overlook, or simply ignore.

** Proportional font, which came from a typewriter that could only do fixed-width fonts.

** Times New Roman font was used, which was not available on IBM Selectric font balls.

** In some cases, the th after a number was superscripted, which was also not available font balls.

** In other cases, there was a space between the number and the th, which was not superscripted (word processors automatically superscript number suffixes when joined to the number).

** Curled apostrophes and quote marks were used instead of the straight ones contained on the Selectric.

** The heading on some of the documents were typed, instead of using headed stationery. This isn’t disqualifying in itself, but the address is given as a post office box instead of an actual street address.

** The other odd thing is the PO box number provided. 34567? A five digit sequential number? Doesn't this look slightly suspicious to you?

** The fonts were ''kerned,'' meaning that the spacing was varied according to the content of the words or sentences. This is a typesetting function, not a typewriting one.

** When the contents of the document were typed into a blank Microsoft Word™ document using the factory default settings, the layout was identical. Not virtually identical. Actually identical.

Then, there's the issue of the people 60 Minutes II decided to interview. For example, a producer contacted the son of the late Lt. Col. Killian and asked him some questions. His answers were apparently not to her liking (since it disagreed with the show's premise) and so the answers were ignored. She asked him to provide other people her staff could interview. According to Mr. Killian, he provided those names, and the producer dismissed them because they were (Shock! Horror!) Bush supporters.

This part seems a bit odd to me, since the chief witness, the aforementioned Mr. Barnes, is a big Kerry supporter. What's odder still is that the grand inquisitor, Mr. Rather, has spoken before a Democrat fundraiser organized by his daughter and attended by Mr. Barnes. I suppose, however, that Desperate Dan doesn't view that as a conflict of interest.

Then, there’s the case of the content of the documents. One states that Lt. Col. Killian was getting pressure from General Staudt to ''candy-coat'' Lt. Bush's record. Problem – the general retired 18 months before the memo was supposed to have been written. Didn’t anybody at 60 Minutes Redux bother to consult a calendar? I mean, there's slipshod and there's just plain stupid.

This is what the Tiffany network has sunk to.

On Friday, Dan (looking decidedly torqued off) defended the report and trotted out some experts to discuss why all those partisan political operatives and bloggers (no kidding, they actually said that stuff!) were wrong. How dare they question the news Brahmin. Therefore, in an almost Kerry-esque post-convention hissy-fit, Danny-boy decided to correct the masses. For close to five minutes on his broadcast, Mr. Rather put his case to show that he was right and the rest of the world was wrong. It was rather pitiful to watch, actually.

Everybody knows the mainstream media is biased quite far to the left. Everybody except Dan, Tom, and Peter (and those people with fewer than 17 active brain cells, aka lib/dem/soc/commies), it would seem.

There's an old rule that if somebody lies in a court of law about one issue, you can pretty much ignore anything else s/he say. Dan Rather, and the entire mainstream news media, are in a much larger court--the court of public opinion.

Dan Rather lied. 60 Minutes II lied. They've all lied. Many times. This is just the latest example.

Folks, it's time that we pronounce sentence.

About the Writer: Doc Farmer is a writer and humorist who is also a moderator on ChronWatch's Forum. He formerly lived in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, but now resides in Indiana. Doc receives e-mail at docfarmer9999@yahoo.co.uk.

This Article Was First Published In ChronWatch At: http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=9639


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Just so you know, folks - the original article looks MUCH better. Please click on the link and you'll see what I mean...
1 posted on 09/13/2004 5:47:32 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

Hey!

(We've got a longer, more up-to-date list going now.)

It's up to 80+ errors and fraulaent points.


2 posted on 09/13/2004 5:50:51 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: DocFarmer

Constant
Bull
Sh*t

They are the National Enquirer on the boob tube.


3 posted on 09/13/2004 5:51:13 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. (I operate the minigun, more fun):.)
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To: DocFarmer
Will Dan Rather Get Away With It This Time?

Short Answer: Yes.

4 posted on 09/13/2004 5:52:00 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: DocFarmer

in short, yes. he will get away with airing forged documents and colluding with the kerry campaign.

sad.

can you imagine if britt hume had ran a forged document on Fox?


5 posted on 09/13/2004 5:52:47 AM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: Old Sarge

Ditto here.


6 posted on 09/13/2004 5:54:06 AM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: DocFarmer

7 posted on 09/13/2004 5:54:42 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: DocFarmer

The same thing will happen to Dan as happened to the guy that took all the docs from the National Archive in his pants.

In a few days it will be completely forgotten.


8 posted on 09/13/2004 5:56:19 AM PDT by devane617
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Can you provide a link? My bit was just an op/ed, but I'd love to see more details!

By the way, click on the link I provided for the original article. You'll see why it's better to see the "special" formatting that couldn't be transferred to this site...


9 posted on 09/13/2004 5:56:32 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: Old Sarge

He didn't get away with it at all. He might still be there but you know that most of the viewers see him as willing to fabricate a story to harm the president.


10 posted on 09/13/2004 5:56:45 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: DocFarmer

You left the word "Again" out of the headline.

Dan Rather is largely responsible, as Saigon bureau chief, for the American people forming the opinion that the Tet Offensive was a great victory for the Viet Cong/Army of North Vietnam when, in fact, it all but broke their backs. Rather has long been a merchant of fraud and deceit.

I find it interesting that he refuses to address the authenticity of documents he claims are authentic but for which he offers no proof -- because he has none -- and he refuses to explain how CBS (and other MSM outlets) received copies of the documents.

We ought to have people stand outside CBS and whenever he appears shout, "What's the frequency?"


11 posted on 09/13/2004 5:57:52 AM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: DocFarmer

I don't watch CBS, but do they have windows on the set that the public can see/be seen? Like Fox does?


12 posted on 09/13/2004 5:58:04 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: BoBToMatoE

Yes, Dan Rather will get away with his cute little stunt, but CBS and he are mortally wounded. He and CBS have no creditablilty whatsoever in the minds of millions of Americans. GW Bush will handily defeat John Kerry, and go on to secure USA freedom and safety from Muslim terrorists unfettered by the "traitor" Democrat Party. As GW Bush becomes a "lame duck" re-elected President, he will go forward unhampered or unimpeded by these treasonous Democrats. In the end the MSM loses bit time, with CBS the biggest loser of them all. If CBS had any smarts they would fire Dan Rather today!!!


13 posted on 09/13/2004 6:00:22 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: DocFarmer

It may seem crazy, but I think this will spell the end for Dan.

The libs may love him, but there are still moderate/undecided voter types who hate this type of dishonesty.


14 posted on 09/13/2004 6:00:48 AM PDT by Preachin' (Democrats are liars...)
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To: Lunkhead_01
We ought to have people stand outside CBS and whenever he appears shout, "What's the frequency?"

Sorry, I don't get the reference...
15 posted on 09/13/2004 6:01:49 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1213155/posts


16 posted on 09/13/2004 6:02:22 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: DocFarmer

This is the on-going summary of the factual erros and forgery evidence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214226/posts


17 posted on 09/13/2004 6:02:32 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: DocFarmer

CBS is working from its institutional liberalism.

Walter Cronkite was able to spin the Tet Offensive into a defeat. Rather thought he could do the same thing with these obvious forgeries and have this report be the cornerstone of his "legacy" as the man who turned the Kampaign for Kerry.

Rather is just plain ignorant and this just prooves the left is living in a 9/10 delusion. FR has debunked political BS within hours and with far more reliable references.

Much superior to Rather's near tearful "because I said so."


18 posted on 09/13/2004 6:03:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Preachin'


19 posted on 09/13/2004 6:05:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: DocFarmer

Bump for later reading...


20 posted on 09/13/2004 6:06:18 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go, people know I'm lyin' about 'Nam".....)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Wow, this is a new – and better one – than I had.


21 posted on 09/13/2004 6:06:21 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: DocFarmer
The most definitive and authoritative typographic refutation here. I sent this link to Drudge last night but he so far hasn't run with it.

Against this, Time magazine has come up with a typewriter repairman to back the MSM's reluctance to accuse Rather of the obvious.

22 posted on 09/13/2004 6:06:49 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Preachin'

I think this will just push CBS into the niche of the looney moore left. CBS is ceeding the approximate 45% concervatives, the self proclaimed 35% moderats for the 19% self described liberals.

Eventually CBS news as a division will be gone because it is just a liabilty for atings and reputation.


23 posted on 09/13/2004 6:06:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Diogenesis

That's priceless!


24 posted on 09/13/2004 6:06:58 AM PDT by Preachin' (Kerry/Rather 2004)
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To: devane617

I'm not forgeting it.

I am still contacting sponsors but my main target is my local affiliate. I have written the FCC and wrote a letter of complaint for their relicensing file.


25 posted on 09/13/2004 6:07:16 AM PDT by Republican Red (We're going to win one for the gipper...they're going to lose one for the flipper)
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To: DocFarmer
Gads, you'd think that someone with as much experience lying and forging documents as CBS they would have at least tried to do a convincing job.

I guess they had to rush it to broadcast to save us from GWB!
26 posted on 09/13/2004 6:09:43 AM PDT by 50 Cal (Next time you think nobody cares if you exist just don't pay the IRS!)
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To: DocFarmer
Will Dan Rather Get Away With It This Time?

That can NOT be allowed to happen!!

If the rest of the MSM does not hold him and CBS accountable then someone HAS to.

27 posted on 09/13/2004 6:10:46 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: Republican Red
I too am not forgetting. I do believe we will see a shift back to the middle by the MSM. To stay competitive they will have to court the conservative side of news stories because the cable news services are kicking b&^%t now. The Internet has provided people with a voice to fight the heavy slants of the MSM and they are certainly feeling the effect.
28 posted on 09/13/2004 6:12:09 AM PDT by devane617
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To: devane617
I'd like to think you are correct but I do not think so. Point in case is our local paper the St. Pete Times. Their circulation has been dropping for years because they have been nothing but a shrill for the Dims.

In an attempt to run back to the middle to get sales they softened considerably for a few months, however....

Ever since the Repub convention they have gone full scale frenzied attack mode on the Repubs. Page after page of vicious attacks and vile labels.

I knew it was an act but it is a beautiful thing to watch. The libs are deeply angry that they no longer have a stranglehold on the media and it is driving them nuts! And honestly months ago I did not believe it could get any worse but now something tells me we have not seen anything yet. Enjoy the show!
29 posted on 09/13/2004 6:22:52 AM PDT by 50 Cal (Next time you think nobody cares if you exist just don't pay the IRS!)
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To: devane617
This Ben Barnes character is something else:

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14993

30 posted on 09/13/2004 6:24:44 AM PDT by paulsy
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To: DocFarmer
I would have thought the major news media would realize that they need to scrupulously maintain at least the appearance of objectivity and fairness, since, rationally, there's always the possibility the side they don't support may win. Payback can be a bitch.

Now that CBS has been exposed as a party to fraud of the most serious kind, this is becoming a death struggle. It is fascinating to watch I will say.

31 posted on 09/13/2004 6:25:10 AM PDT by Menehune56
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To: DocFarmer


Jammie Nation

http://www.melaniesemporium.com/curious%20george%20pajamas.jpgI'm with Amy and N.Z. Bear. Jammies now! I want a pair, yo.


"Bloggers have no checks and balances . . . [it's] a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas." -- Jonathan Klein

This is, of course, far too delicious a statement to simply ignore. Already, bloggers have taken it up as a badge of honor.

Welcome to Jammie Nation, where Dan Rather gets his ass kicked by guys in pajamas.

Via Instapundit, "NO DISPUTING IT -- Blogs Are Major Players." Viva la revolucion. Left, Right, Center. Who cares? We don't need you anymore, Mr. Rather. We can do for ourselves just fine now, thank you.


32 posted on 09/13/2004 6:37:45 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: DocFarmer

Yes he will get away with it as will CBS and 60 Minutes. While the main stream media smells blood in the water right now, they will not push this. Doing so would be to their own detriment.

How can the other alphabet networks justify going after one of their own for doing exactly the same thing they do. We all know the networks flat out lie about most Republican positions. Everything from false statistics on economic news, to the number of homeless and poor in the country to ridiculous charges on the end of the assult weapon ban. To go after one of their own for making false claims, makes them vunerable.


33 posted on 09/13/2004 6:42:50 AM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: Old Sarge

As the elites have for 40 years.

These "news organizations", are politcal organizations.

cbsabcnbccnnnprnyt.....

This fact needs to be before the public in a grass-roots effort.

It should be relentless, consistant, with the total distruction as the goal.


34 posted on 09/13/2004 6:45:41 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Lunkhead_01
We ought to have people stand outside CBS and whenever he appears shout, "What's the frequency?"

Or "what's the font type, Kenneth?"

35 posted on 09/13/2004 6:45:55 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: DocFarmer

The only problem is the 34567 thing which is the legit P.O. Box.
Rather would say, "See! See! That proves you're lying and the memos are genuine!"


36 posted on 09/13/2004 6:49:53 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: saveliberty
"Bloggers have no checks and balances . . . [it's] a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas." -- Jonathan Klein

CBS apparently has no checks and balances either.

Is it just me, or is there a whiff of fascism in that Klein statement?

37 posted on 09/13/2004 6:52:52 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Grandma is beating off the Indians, and they keep on coming...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The legit PO Box to what? National Guard units normally provided a street address, not a PO Box. Besides, I didn't say it was fake - I said it looked fishy. Still does.

Who does/did PO Box 34567 belong to?


38 posted on 09/13/2004 6:53:53 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: mgc1122

No, no, no, no!

We run a full page Washington Times ad. Laying out the LIES by CBS and Dan Rather's attempt to throw a National Election.

We list our Experts, their determinations, the facts and
let America decide.

At the bottom a Statement from us, saying In today's world the word of a worn out Shill for the DNC is NOT a place to attempt to get the News regardless if the are a MSM news anchor, because what you are really getting is the Socialist slant with a taste of Political smear interjected for effect.

They can't be trusted!


39 posted on 09/13/2004 6:56:08 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: saveliberty

"Bloggers have no checks and balances . . . [it's] a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas." -- Jonathan Klein

This is, of course, far too delicious a statement to simply ignore. Already, bloggers have taken it up as a badge of honor.

Welcome to Jammie Nation, where Dan Rather gets his ass kicked by guys in pajamas.

Via Instapundit, "NO DISPUTING IT -- Blogs Are Major Players." Viva la revolucion. Left, Right, Center. Who cares? We don't need you anymore, Mr. Rather. We can do for ourselves just fine now, thank you.



32 posted on 09/13/2004 6:37:45 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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Just one thought MSM,

JASON BLAIR!


40 posted on 09/13/2004 7:01:29 AM PDT by Area51 (Diapers and Politicians need to be changed-For the same reason)
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To: Area51

Why should we have to buy space for a legitimate news story that would be run just that way for free if it were the other way around? I say force the major dailies to run it.


41 posted on 09/13/2004 7:01:38 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: DocFarmer

It's covered in at least 20 threads. Pull up in your pajamas and do the reading :-)


42 posted on 09/13/2004 7:03:59 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Area51

My favorite quote was

Welcome to Jammie Nation, where Dan Rather gets his ass kicked by guys in pajamas.


43 posted on 09/13/2004 7:32:07 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: DocFarmer
CBS Lies. Will Dan Rather Get Away With It This Time?

Probably.

44 posted on 09/13/2004 7:54:45 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: DocFarmer

Will they get away with it? Yes.


45 posted on 09/13/2004 7:56:40 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Area51; saveliberty
"Bloggers have no checks and balances . . . [it's] a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas." -- Jonathan Klein

The Vietcong had their black pajamas.

We've got our Red White and Blue pajamas.

The PJ brigades win every time...
46 posted on 09/13/2004 7:59:32 AM PDT by null and void (the mockery of life in a galvanized body)
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To: All
Dear CBS and lurking shareholders,

Since you are here anyway, listen up: Get rid of that anchor, it is weighing you down.

"O Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling..."

47 posted on 09/13/2004 8:03:45 AM PDT by granite (IT IS UP TO US NOW.)
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To: Area51
We run a full page Washington Times ad. Laying out the LIES by CBS and Dan Rather's attempt to throw a National Election. I'll chip in some $$ for this cause ...
48 posted on 09/13/2004 8:06:38 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: DocFarmer
"will"?

It's past tense. The frequency guy did not get away with it. Someone, however, needs to remind him that that saying "it is true" without evidence is an opinion, not a fact.

Whatever happened to professionalism?

49 posted on 09/13/2004 8:09:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: Publius6961

He's a professional. In the same sense a whore is a professional. He gets paid, doesn't he?


50 posted on 09/13/2004 8:11:43 AM PDT by null and void (the mockery of life in a galvanized body)
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