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Poisoned by Putin
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| September 9, 2004
| Anna Politkovskaya
Posted on 09/13/2004 4:41:01 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
do they work for the Kremlin? My son works for the Chief Rabbi. He has no connection to the Kremlin.
There has been a massive religious upsurge among Russian Jewry. There has also been a massive religious upsurge among Russian Christians.
Do you think Russian Christian (Orthodox) missionaries work for the Kremlin too?
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posted on
09/13/2004 8:56:22 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Dan Rather lied. CBS died.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Sorry, I'm not buying. This woman's first instinct was to go looking for the chief Chechnyan terrorist. First of all, I don't buy the part about the poor simple Chechnyan peasant fighting for freedom, especially when they are finding Chechnyan trained terrorists all over the world conducting bomb making classes to Al Qaeda.
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posted on
09/13/2004 8:56:37 PM PDT
by
McGavin999
(If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
To: McGavin999
Her first instinct was to try to track down the one person who might be able to reason with the terrorists. That's a heck of a lot better than Putin's plan....he didn't have one. Since when is drugging journalists acceptable anywhere? And I think she's talking about freedom of speech, or the lack of it, in Russia.
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posted on
09/13/2004 9:05:18 PM PDT
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
To: Luis Gonzalez; MarMema
"Welcome back," said a woman bending over me in Rostov regional hospital. The nurse tells me that when they brought me in I was "almost hopeless". Then she whispers: "My dear, they tried to poison you." All the tests taken at the airport have been destroyed - on orders "from on high", say the doctors.
I see a drama queen? Does anyone believe the FSB is so incompetent they would attempt to murder this lady with poison and not succeed? However, Ms. Politkovskaya does create a dramatic story by including this in her article.
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posted on
09/13/2004 9:38:37 PM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Luis Gonzalez
According the Foxnews, Putin is using the tragedy to become a de facto dicatator. Russia is simply too fragile perhaps for a robust democracy. Sad.
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posted on
09/13/2004 10:18:38 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: Torie
"According the Foxnews, Putin is using the tragedy to become a de facto dicatator. Russia is simply too fragile perhaps for a robust democracy. Sad."
A sad fact indeed, however, lets not forget who were the leaders of the free world when "Soviet Communism" fell.
Clintons and algore were NOT the most reliable people on earth to establish a democracy, let alone a robust one.
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To: GarySpFc
Does anyone believe the FSB is so incompetent they would attempt to murder this lady with poison and not succeed? Even Mossad screwed up a poisoning in Jordan a few years ago. And Russia has failed at a lot of things lately. Also it's not entirely clear that they wanted to murder her. Perhaps they just wanted her sick enough so as to be unable to report on Beslan before the hostage incident ended.
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To: wideminded
Even Mossad screwed up a poisoning in Jordan a few years ago. And Russia has failed at a lot of things lately. Also it's not entirely clear that they wanted to murder her. Perhaps they just wanted her sick enough so as to be unable to report on Beslan before the hostage incident ended.
Firstly, this is nothing but speculation on your part. Words like "perhaps, could have, etc. are cheap in arriving as evidence in arriving at the truth. If the Russians were one-tenth as brutal as she reports, then they would not have hesitated in killing her.
Secondly, the lady's writings reek of hatred for the Russians and Bush. I can tell you for a fact few if any writers and reporters produce their reports from the front, rather they are written from the safety of a hotel. The days of Ernie Pyle are gone forever. This woman is not simply a bleeding heart liberal, but a Marxist to boot. And let me once again state for the record. It is my firm conviction the lady was not poisoned, but reported that to fuel hatred for the Russians.
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posted on
09/14/2004 2:44:12 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: McGavin999
I fully agree that al-Quida is behind this, and wanting to create a global war with the West. Yes, there may be a nationalist or two in the group, but al-Quida is running the show, because they are very disciplined, and will not allow anyone else to run the show.
Note carefully, these reporters are neglecting to mention the brutality of the terrorists against the children prior to the Russian army's involvement. Children were shot because they simply were unable to stop crying when ordered, and one baby was bayoneted. Young girls were raped by the terrorists, which is CLEARLY the work of Islamofacists. Furthermore, the reporters statement that the helicopters could not have been there instantly is a flat out lie. In a situation like this the helicopters would have been circulating very close to provide support to the Russian troops if needed.
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posted on
09/14/2004 3:11:46 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Whether the hostage takers intended to die from the very start is also unclear. They did in fact have a demand -- the withdrawal of Russian forces from Chechnya -- despite the Kremlin's initial denial of any motive.
When the hostage takers shot small children at the start, and then killed some of their own who objected to killing children, then only a complete idiot would deny the terrorist leader came with the intention of dying.
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posted on
09/14/2004 3:18:47 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Mahomed Idigov, recently taken out to be shot, is 16. He is a pupil in the tenth grade of School No 2 in the town of Starye Atagi, Grozny region. He has a favourite pair of jeans, a much loved tape recorder, and a stack of pop music cassettes which he enjoys listening to. He's a typical 16-year-old. The only disturbing thing about him is his eyes, which have the level steadiness of an adult's. They don't go with his teenager's skin problems and adolescent gawkiness.
Where is one shred of evidence this happened? Why does she completely ignore the direct evidence we have that the terrorists shot children for crying, raped young school girls, rigged the schools with bombs, and even shot their own when some objected to killing of school children? I was trained in counterinsurgency and spent many years on a Special Forces A-Team, and it is very apparent to me Anna Politkovskaya is misreporting the news and is one evil monster.
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posted on
09/14/2004 3:30:34 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
To: Speartip
Maybe you need to speak with all the law enforcement agencies in the U.S., because for years now, they've apparently been making the mistake of trying to negotiate in a hostage situation.... And doing it rather successfully too, but I guess you know better.
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posted on
09/14/2004 4:13:38 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
To: Torie
Yes. Dejas vu all over again. It is sad.
I haven't understood the pro-Putin sympathies around here.
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posted on
09/14/2004 4:24:00 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
To: Speartip; wideminded
You don't seem to be up on Russian techniques of keeeping the press quiet. I wasn't either until recently. This isn't the first time that they've drugged a reporter.
Murder? no, I doubt that. I think as Wideminded does...they just wanted to keep her away from the story for a while, so they could control the information that was reported.
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posted on
09/14/2004 4:33:55 AM PDT
by
nuconvert
(Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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