Posted on 09/14/2004 1:30:02 AM PDT by Truth666
I wouldn't want to be Mexico right now.
Um, not likely; aren't the prevailing winds carrying Javier away from Mexico?
Is that Javier in the Pacific? If so, it's not all bad. They might get some badly needed rain in western United States. I think it's now a 7-year drought in the western Rockies.
Yeah, I know they wont hit Mexico in any likelyhood. It just looks ominous.
Huh. All this talk about Global Warming and we wind up getting Global Drenching.
AFP reports that Javier is headed toward Acapulco.
Javier is not headed towards Acapulco...It's headed northwest. A few days ago it's track was estimated to be towards Puerto Vallarta, then yesterday they had the track heading towards Cabo San Lucas, and now its track is estimated to be way west of Cabo.
I wouldn't want to be in New Orleans. From a buoy 64 nm South of Dauphin Island, AL - Winds from the east at 20 kts. With Ivan in it's current position there is a huge fetch for a storm surge to build up. I'd expect minor coast flooding in the Louisiana/Mississippi Coastal Region at any time.
Better pray the storm turns east soon so the wind reverses direction there.
I'm glad Ivan slowed down. Some earlier forecasts had predicted it would move over Atlanta today - and my wife's 21-hour flight is scheduled to land in Atlanta in a few hours.
Javier's latest track is heading back out to sea. If it just skirts the coast, it will deliver needed rain
Does your dad do the billfish thing? Nice to meet you.
"-country threatened by TWO cat. 5 hurricanes-"
- - -
Which country? Mexico?
It won't hit Mexico. Hurricanes always travel west, then loop upward and northeast later.
BS Alert...
This thread is full of it
"Inconceivable!"
"I wouldn't want to be in New Orleans."
Me neither... Hey, where am I... uh oh... Time to move.
Check the column Wind-Wave Height (WWH) here
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42003
| MM | DD | TIME (CDT) |
WDIR | WSPD kts |
GST kts |
WVHT ft |
DPD sec |
APD sec |
MWD | PRES in |
PTDY in |
ATMP °F |
WTMP °F |
DEWP °F |
SAL | VIS mi |
TIDE ft |
|
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 09 | 14 | 4:50 am | E | 31.1 | 38.9 | 13.5 | 10 | 7.5 | SE | 29.71 | -0.05 | 83.7 | 84.0 | 75.6 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 14 | 3:50 am | E | 29.1 | 35.0 | 12.8 | 10 | 7.2 | SE | 29.71 | -0.06 | 84.2 | 84.0 | 76.6 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 14 | 2:50 am | E | 27.2 | 33.0 | 11.5 | 8 | 7.0 | ESE | 29.73 | -0.05 | 84.4 | 84.0 | 77.2 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 14 | 1:50 am | E | 27.2 | 33.0 | 12.5 | 8 | 7.1 | ESE | 29.75 | -0.06 | 84.6 | 84.0 | 77.0 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 14 | 12:50 am | ENE | 25.3 | 33.0 | 12.5 | 9 | 7.3 | ESE | 29.76 | -0.05 | 84.2 | 84.0 | 78.3 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 11:50 pm | ENE | 25.3 | 31.1 | 12.5 | 10 | 7.2 | SE | 29.78 | -0.03 | 84.2 | 84.0 | 78.1 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 10:50 pm | E | 25.3 | 29.1 | 10.8 | 10 | 7.0 | SE | 29.81 | +0.01 | 84.0 | 84.2 | 78.3 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 9:50 pm | ENE | 25.3 | 29.1 | 11.2 | 10 | 7.0 | SE | 29.81 | +0.02 | 84.0 | 84.2 | 77.7 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 8:50 pm | E | 25.3 | 29.1 | 9.8 | 10 | 6.6 | SE | 29.81 | +0.03 | 83.5 | 84.2 | 77.7 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 7:50 pm | ENE | 23.3 | 29.1 | 9.5 | 10 | 6.9 | SSE | 29.80 | +0.01 | 82.4 | 84.2 | 77.4 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 6:50 pm | E | 21.4 | 27.2 | 9.2 | 9 | 6.7 | ESE | 29.79 | -0.02 | 82.0 | 84.2 | 76.5 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 5:50 pm | ENE | 19.4 | 21.4 | 9.5 | 9 | 6.8 | SE | 29.78 | -0.04 | 81.5 | 84.2 | 75.4 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 4:50 pm | ENE | 21.4 | 25.3 | 9.2 | 8 | 6.6 | ESE | 29.79 | -0.05 | 81.7 | 84.2 | 74.1 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 3:50 pm | E | 23.3 | 27.2 | 9.2 | 8 | 6.4 | SE | 29.81 | -0.06 | 81.7 | 84.2 | 73.4 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 2:50 pm | ENE | 23.3 | 29.1 | 8.5 | 8 | 6.4 | ESE | 29.82 | -0.06 | 82.2 | 84.2 | 76.6 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 1:50 pm | E | 21.4 | 25.3 | 9.2 | 9 | 6.3 | SE | 29.84 | -0.04 | 81.5 | 84.2 | 75.4 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 12:50 pm | E | 21.4 | 25.3 | 8.9 | 7 | 6.3 | ESE | 29.87 | +0.00 | 84.4 | 84.2 | 76.6 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 11:50 am | E | 21.4 | 25.3 | 8.2 | 7 | 6.1 | ESE | 29.88 | +0.02 | 84.2 | 84.2 | 76.6 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 10:50 am | E | 19.4 | 25.3 | 8.5 | 10 | 6.2 | SSE | 29.89 | +0.04 | 84.2 | 84.2 | 76.1 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 9:50 am | E | 21.4 | 27.2 | 7.9 | 9 | 6.1 | SE | 29.87 | +0.03 | 84.0 | 84.0 | 77.0 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 8:50 am | E | 21.4 | 25.3 | 7.9 | 9 | 6.1 | SSE | 29.85 | +0.02 | 84.2 | 84.0 | 76.8 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 7:50 am | E | 21.4 | 25.3 | 7.5 | 9 | 6.1 | SSE | 29.85 | +0.02 | 84.0 | 84.0 | 76.6 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 6:50 am | E | 21.4 | 25.3 | 6.9 | 8 | 5.9 | SE | 29.85 | +0.02 | 83.8 | 84.2 | 76.3 | - | - | - | |
| 09 | 13 | 5:50 am | E | 21.4 | 23.3 | 6.6 | 9 | 5.8 | SSE | 29.84 | +0.00 | 83.8 | 84.2 | 77.7 | - | - | - |
He used to. He has a giant marlin stuffed and mounted in his den. Nowadays, he's just after trout and catfish. He's down in Cabo for relaxation, I guess.
Javier is not and never has been a Category 5. And it's not going to get anywhere near the United States.
Lots of typhoons and hurricanes is normal. I know reality is probably pretty depressing to you, though.
Analysis, Spock?
14:15
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/archdat/tropical_cyclones/tc04/EPAC/13E.JAVIER/ssmi/vis1km/20040914.1430.goes10.x.vis1km.13EJAVIER.125kts-936mb-166N-1075W.jpg
15:30
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/archdat/tropical_cyclones/tc04/EPAC/13E.JAVIER/ssmi/vis1km/20040914.1530.goes10.x.vis1km.13EJAVIER.120kts-NAmb-166N-1075W.jpg
14:15 (correct link)
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/archdat/tropical_cyclones/tc04/EPAC/13E.JAVIER/ssmi/vis1km/20040914.1415.goes10.x.vis1km.13EJAVIER.125kts-936mb-166N-1075W.jpg
Hey Truth666! Are you Art Bell, or George Noree??? That sure is a devilish screen name!!! (grin)
/Tinfoilhat firmly on
Could it be that the poles are really shifting like Casey forecasted and this is a sign of it?
/Tinfoilhat removed
Your link took over two minutes to load on my computer with high-speed Comcast; when I went out of FR and put the URL in it took two seconds. FR needs to do something about its servers
Ith Inconthievable. Just watchted this recently again with the kids. This guy was great in princess bride.
We are supposed to be calling it global climate change now. That way every drought, flood, thunderstorm, snowshower or sunny day can be blamed on the eeeeevul Americans.
But of course! Can't have Al Gore wailing about "Global Warming" when showing up during the coldest day on record.
That way every drought, flood, thunderstorm, snowshower or sunny day can be blamed on the eeeeevul Americans.
Amazing. I wonder who the Libs blamed the last Ice Age on? And isn't it interesting that the planet started warming up long before the U.S.A. came into existence?
Leave it to the Leftists to buy into this B.S. when nary a fact supports such ludicrous notions.
Correct on all points. It's been very dry. We didn't get monsoon rains this year in the N.W. portion of NM where I live. Last year we did and I got hit by a 'freak' tornado, and 3 times by lightening. I'm a little spooked at the thought of monsoon rains now.
To be fair, the Tucson NWS have accorded a very slight possibility of a Baja strike. Worst case it might jump over into the Gulf of California then die out as a tropical storm over the lower Colorado Valley or Socal. It would not be the first time that has happened. That said, I may recall incorrectly, but I do not beleive there has ever been an upper category Pacific storm to actually strike the mainland, not so sure about Hawaii - I think there might have been a couple 4s to hit it.....
And the Madrid Quartet is scheduled to meet this month.
Looks like Northwest to me.
The potential cone keeps moving east ...
The IVAN thread of an historic day - September 14, 2004
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1215347/posts
hahahhahah!
that's the best scene in the movie.
That thread is an impressive document of how the possibility of the destruction of New Orleans appeared, after Ivan entered the Gulf and kept headed to NOLA
September 14, 2004 - not just another historic day, when Mexico beated the US in this race (Jeanne was born a couple days too late) :
country threatened by TWO cat. 5 hurricanes - Ivan, Javier (unprecedented)
... but because it marks the entry in a new era - the global superstorm
Below the ONLY article (October 2002) that google could find, September 14, 2004, about the facts. This as Ivan started heading directly into New Orleans and finally the first press article on the subject (Associated Press) appeared.
---- Why is New Orleans so vulnerable? Try these three main reasons: (October 2002)
My comment on the article : this time isn't a new cycle of hurricane intensity ...
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1590/is_3_59/ai_95845370
--- People who stick their head in the mud, pardon, sand (from the AP article, September 14, 2004)
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Vulnerable%20New%20Orleans
The worst storm in recent decades to hit New Orleans was Hurricane Betsy in 1965, which submerged parts of the city in water 7-feet deep and was blamed for 74 deaths in Louisiana, Mississippi and Florida. That storm was a Category 3, weaker than Ivan is expected to be.
Even if New Orleans escapes this time, van Heerden said, it will remain vulnerable until the federal and state governments act to restore the
coastalwetlands that should act as a buffer against storms coming in from the Gulf.
Louisiana has lost about a half million acres of coast to erosion since 1930 because the Mississippi River is so corralled by levees that it can dump
sediment only at its mouth, and that allows waves from the Gulf to chop away at the rest of the coastline.
"My fear is, if this storm passes (without a major disaster), everybody forgets about it until next year, when it could be even worse because we'll have even less wetlands," van Heerden said.
Wow. You are really into this, aren't you? :O)
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