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CBS Guard Documents Traced to Tex. Kinko's
Washington Post ^ | September 16, 2004 | Michael Dobbs

Posted on 09/15/2004 7:46:31 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

Documents allegedly written by a deceased officer that raised questions about President Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard bore markings showing they had been faxed to CBS News from a Kinko's copy shop in Abilene, Tex., according to another former Guard officer who was shown the records by the network.

The markings provide one piece of evidence suggesting a source for the documents, whose authenticity has been hotly disputed since CBS aired them in a "60 Minutes" broadcast Sept. 8. The network has declined to name the person who provided them, saying the source was confidential, or to explain how the documents came to light after more than three decades.

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There is only one Kinko's in Abilene, and it is 21 miles from the Baird, Tex., home of retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, who has been named by several news outlets as a possible source for the documents.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: burkett; cbsnews; forgery; killian; kinkos; michaeldobbs; rather
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1 posted on 09/15/2004 7:46:31 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: blogblogginaway

bump


2 posted on 09/15/2004 7:47:31 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: blogblogginaway

Strong didn't comment on that by accident. It's clear Burkitt is being set up as the fall guy here.


3 posted on 09/15/2004 7:48:03 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: blogblogginaway

WHOA!
The WP already has the story.
Mr. CBS is drowning.


4 posted on 09/15/2004 7:48:11 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: blogblogginaway

Bump


5 posted on 09/15/2004 7:49:36 PM PDT by jseth
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To: blogblogginaway

Give it up Billy. You're busted.

And your lawyer...David Van Os...who is a democratic candidate for the Texas Supreme Court....well...its only a matter of time before they figure out you two coordinated with the Democratic party.

And that will down two guys running for office.


6 posted on 09/15/2004 7:50:22 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: NYCVirago

No so fast.........Ben Barnes lives REAL near Abilene.


7 posted on 09/15/2004 7:52:05 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: NYCVirago

If this is Burkitt, what are the chances this may immediately become a criminal matter?

It's either fraud or theft of government property.


8 posted on 09/15/2004 7:52:06 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: Howlin

Where at? I know he once had a place near Austin...and then moved to some place like Main.


9 posted on 09/15/2004 7:53:51 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: blogblogginaway
In a related development, White House press secretary Scott McClellan hinted that more documents regarding Bush's National Guard service may soon be released. Asked whether officials in the White House have seen unreleased documents, McClellan called that "a very real possibility." Other officials with knowledge of the situation said more documents had indeed been uncovered and would be released in the coming days.
Now THERE's a teaser final paragraph!
10 posted on 09/15/2004 7:54:39 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: ArmyBratproud

Baird or Brownwood.


11 posted on 09/15/2004 7:57:08 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: VadeRetro

Yes, that's a teaser alright. Hope they are supportive of the President's service.


12 posted on 09/15/2004 7:57:11 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: Howlin

Besides, it's a conspiracy and they're in it together.

And that includes CBS.


13 posted on 09/15/2004 7:57:21 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Howlin

I mentioned this in the other thread. Burkitt was in the Texas Army National Guard. The memos were written in what Knox said sounded "army". CBS said the documents came from a "former military officer". Burkitt was an officer.


14 posted on 09/15/2004 7:57:41 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: blogblogginaway

Damnit! you beat me on the post L0L


15 posted on 09/15/2004 8:00:00 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Howlin
No so fast.........Ben Barnes lives REAL near Abilene.

It may or may not be Barnes. But it's really clear CBS wants us to think it's Burkitt -- remember, they said it was from a retired officer in the military.

16 posted on 09/15/2004 8:00:40 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: tirednvirginia

Of course they'll be supportive of GWB's service.

Goodness, you don't believe the spin do you?

He did serve and he didn't break the rules and he was honorably discharged.


17 posted on 09/15/2004 8:00:46 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: blogblogginaway

burkett is sweating about now


18 posted on 09/15/2004 8:00:53 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: blogblogginaway

It appears this might even implicate USA Today because they too refuse to disclose who their source was. Maybe they can get a person at the Kinkos from where this "memo" was faxed. He wouldn't be obliged to keep silent, unless, of course he was a "Fairy Kerry" supporter.


19 posted on 09/15/2004 8:01:40 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: mylife

About time I beat someone to it.........LOL


20 posted on 09/15/2004 8:02:55 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: lavrenti; All
Just Who Is Bill Burkett?
21 posted on 09/15/2004 8:03:33 PM PDT by NewLand (Stop watching ALL network TV if you want to STOP liberals.)
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To: Howlin

As I posted on another thread, the Brownwood paper in a very recent article describes barnes as a "former resident" of that town.


22 posted on 09/15/2004 8:05:51 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Shermy, look at this article I found today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1129353/posts


23 posted on 09/15/2004 8:06:34 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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****BREAKING****SOURCE: BILL BURKETT USES ABILENE KINKOS
WMCA-NY ^ | 9.15.2004

Posted on 09/15/2004 9:47:54 PM CDT by KMC1

~10:41pm~ EST JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH ABILENE KINKOS: Bill Burkett has a standing account with the Kinkos in Abilene Texas,

and while the lady who answered the phone would not be more specific she did say Burkett was in there last week - she waited on him on last (a week ago) Tuesday....

(Excerpt) Read more at kmclive.com ...


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1217366/posts


24 posted on 09/15/2004 8:06:46 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Howlin

Howlin,

Look at this.
http://www.vanosforsupremecourt.com/

David Van Os was the name of the guy that was listed as Burkett's lawyer in the NY Times piece that mentioned Knox.

LOOK AT THIS FROM HIS BIOGRAPHY PAGE.....Seems like the DNC might have been playing games here. HE WAS A GORE CHAD LAWYER

Political & Community Activities, Positions, & Honors



Ø Life Member, NAACP



Ø 1985-1995 – Member, Board of Directors, Texas Equal Access to

Justice Foundation, by appointment of Texas Supreme Court



Ø 1990 – President’s Citation for Achievement in Civil Rights, Austin NAACP



Ø 1990 – Civil Libertarian of the Year Award, Central Texas Chapter, ACLU



Ø 2002 – Texas Women’s Political Caucus “Good Guy” Award



Ø Attended every Texas Democratic State Convention since 1974



Ø Block-walked for Democratic Party general election tickets in 1972, 1974, 1976, 1978, 1980, 1982, 1984, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, and 2002



Ø President, Northeast Austin Democrats, 1978-1980



Ø Democratic Precinct Chairman, Travis County, 1981-88



Ø Travis County Democratic Party Chairman, 1996-98



Ø Ran in statewide General Election as Democrat for Texas Supreme Court, 1998



Ø 2000-2003 – Chairman, North East Bexar County Democrats



Ø 2001-03 – Democratic Precinct Chairman, Bexar County



Ø Represented Austin NAACP in federal voting rights suit over Austin City Council elections



Ø Represented LULAC in federal voting rights suit over Austin School Board elections



Ø Represented Central Texas ACLU in federal suit over re-segregation of Austin AISD elementary schools



Ø Traveled to Palm Beach, Florida, November-December 2000, to assist Democratic Party in vote recount efforts


25 posted on 09/15/2004 8:09:51 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: ArmyBratproud; Mo1; kcvl; Tamsey

Isn't this the guy you all were after??????


26 posted on 09/15/2004 8:11:59 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
It appears this might even implicate USA Today because they too refuse to disclose who their source was. Maybe they can get a person at the Kinkos from where this "memo" was faxed. He wouldn't be obliged to keep silent, unless, of course he was a "Fairy Kerry" supporter.

I think it's a rule that Kinko's will ONLY hire left wing loonies. As I said, in all my years in advertising and graphic design I have NEVER met a kinko's employee that wasn't a moonlighting left wing fruitcake.

Kinkos made it's fortune as Mac central, with half of their customers using the place to print out flyers for Rave parties, thie punk bands, mosh pits, flyers for left wing causes and collateral materials for ad campaigns. Let me tell you there are NOT many conservatives in the fine or commercial arts.
27 posted on 09/15/2004 8:12:15 PM PDT by N. Beaujon (sera@ix.netcom.com)
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To: Howlin
Shermy, look at this article I found today:

I clicked your link and read the first few sentences but didn't read replies so don't know if you noticed---that article is from the very day the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth held their first press conference. May 4, 2004.

28 posted on 09/15/2004 8:12:25 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: blogblogginaway

Most Kinkos I have seen have computers and printers right in there for customer use...

Think maybe he fabricated them right there on the spot, printed them... copied them a few times, then faxed them?

Is there any way we can get those computers impounded? A careful examination of the hard drives might result in some interesting clues.


29 posted on 09/15/2004 8:12:37 PM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: cyncooper

I didn't make that connection.

What I was reading was the general tone......it almost laid the groundwork for the memos.......you know, ask some question and -- bingo -- we have a memo!


30 posted on 09/15/2004 8:15:05 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin

I remember his name .. but who knows anymore which thread it was brought up on ..


31 posted on 09/15/2004 8:16:19 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Shermy
As I posted on another thread, the Brownwood paper in a very recent article describes barnes as a "former resident" of that town.

I first fingered Barnes. (I asked freep to retract that post after this article just came up since I dont want to falsely accuse ANYONE.) Now it might be a toss up. Since I shouldnt be in the speculation business it's really nice that SOMEONE is doing some investigative journalism besides us. If the Washington Post indeed breaks this story they will win the subscription lottery and the respect they will have from all honest Americans will be....priceless.
32 posted on 09/15/2004 8:17:23 PM PDT by N. Beaujon (sera@ix.netcom.com)
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To: cyncooper
David Van Os was the name of the guy that was listed as Burkett's lawyer in the NY Times piece that mentioned Knox. LOOK AT THIS FROM HIS BIOGRAPHY PAGE.....Seems like the DNC might have been playing games here. HE WAS A GORE CHAD LAWYER

Oh my freaking God. Unreal. You turn over a few rocks and you find hanging chads?!
33 posted on 09/15/2004 8:21:24 PM PDT by N. Beaujon
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To: blogblogginaway

Yep...Friends of CBS bailing them out with a fall guy. Just how did they "trace it"???


34 posted on 09/15/2004 8:22:34 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: blogblogginaway
unless the Texas Air AND Army Guard SHARE the same base... WHAT was he doing on an Air Guard base???
35 posted on 09/15/2004 8:22:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Howlin; sockmonkey

Yes.

Sockmonkey was interested as well.

He found the Van Os campaign site.


36 posted on 09/15/2004 8:23:19 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: sockmonkey

PING


Guess who showed up at a Abilene Kinkos?

David VanOs can be far behind in this little scam.


37 posted on 09/15/2004 8:24:53 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: blogblogginaway

So Dan Rather actually believed that Bill Burkette found these documents in the trash can back in 1997 and have been saving them for 7 years? He's not that dumb is he?


38 posted on 09/15/2004 8:25:11 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: tirednvirginia

Whats the last paragraph about? McClellan says more docs to be released?????


39 posted on 09/15/2004 8:27:32 PM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: Mo1; Howlin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1216303/posts

This is the thread.


40 posted on 09/15/2004 8:27:34 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: blogblogginaway

The noose tightens. And the Washington Post is right down in the trenches with the pajama journalists. Who'd a thunk it?


41 posted on 09/15/2004 8:28:11 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (I'm just another pajama journalist.)
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To: FL_engineer

Ping!


42 posted on 09/15/2004 8:32:33 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: blogblogginaway
Can't be Burkett. Burkett would have been an easy fall guy for their troubles. As soon as this backfired, they would have hung Burkett themselves and they know of his unbalanced mental state. CBS has stonewalled and vehemently defended the source. CBS actions during MemoGate is not consistent with the source being Burkett. Ben Barnes is the logical choice. He is in Kerry's trusted circle, but yet. is seen as an outsider. It would make Watergate small in comparison if Ben Barnes is the source because of his ties with Dan Rather and Kerry. This is the only reasonable choice for their adamant defense of the source and forged documents.
43 posted on 09/15/2004 8:36:59 PM PDT by avant_garde
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To: blogblogginaway
I have a bad feeling about the reference to new documents to be released from the White House. That can't be good.

To me, even if every one of Rather's accusations were true, it wouldn't reflect on who W is today. The Dims, however, would make an issue out of homework he forgot to turn in in 3rd grade.
44 posted on 09/15/2004 8:38:09 PM PDT by LSU Engineer
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To: LSU Engineer

When they say NEW DOC or MORE DOCS were we not already told GW had put up EVERYTHING?


45 posted on 09/15/2004 8:41:00 PM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: LSU Engineer

LOL Yes! Perhaps the President can find an old unfinished assignnment or two from elementary school and "level" with the American people. "Yes, I did not finish my spelling asignment." ROTFLOL That would be so funny. Too bad that being president cuts down on ones latitiude to tell jokes ;)


46 posted on 09/15/2004 8:44:52 PM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)
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To: VadeRetro; Torie
In a related development, White House press secretary Scott McClellan hinted that more documents regarding Bush's National Guard service may soon be released. Asked whether officials in the White House have seen unreleased documents, McClellan called that "a very real possibility." Other officials with knowledge of the situation said more documents had indeed been uncovered and would be released in the coming days.

Any thoughts about this little teaser?

My suspicion is that these documents will either be 'good' for Bush or won't shed any new light on things. Why? Because W has started to go on the offensive on this issue - at least via surrogates.

By the way, anyone who says the WH has control over these documents has their head up their asses. The document centers are staffed by career civil servants, who are usually left-leaning Democrats.

47 posted on 09/15/2004 9:00:01 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: blogblogginaway; All

They've buried the story on A6! Shouldn't this be frontpage ABOVE the fold?


48 posted on 09/15/2004 9:02:13 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: NYCVirago

I bet he takes a few down with him. This is wire fraud with malice for starters.


49 posted on 09/15/2004 9:02:33 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: ambrose

I think the charge that Bush was smacked down because he refused an order to take a physical, or evaded service and was smacked down for that reason, is a rather weak charge, and team Bush may have the goods to smack that down. Just a guess. THere really is no way to address the charge that the brass gave Bush a pass. Indeed, they may have well done so. It won't be the first time or the last, for the politically connected. The brass are very sensitive and skilled about currying favors with the connected.


50 posted on 09/15/2004 9:04:29 PM PDT by Torie
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