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U.S. Mint to Unveil New Nickel Designs
yahooooooooo ^ | 09-16-04 | JEANNINE AVERSA,

Posted on 09/16/2004 7:25:57 AM PDT by evets

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To: evets
IMO, this sucks big time. Now, I realize that the nickel is past due for a change in appearance, as it has been largely static (exception being mint mark location changes), since 1938. I've used nickels several times as a tool too get youngsters into numismatics, and this will eventually screw up my pitch. You see, since the coin has been static for so many years, there are still a lot of old coins in circulation. If you have a handful of nickels, there is a darn good chance there will be a 40, 50 or 60 year old coin amongst the lot. This isn't true of any other of our coins because all of them have had more recent changes.

As time passes, the previous design generally drops from circulation. When was the last time you saw a wheat penny? Similarly, it's pretty darn rare to find any coin higher than a nickel in denomination that is older than 1965 (1972 in the case of half-dollars) because that's the year they debased them from silver to junk metals.

What I've recommended to kids is that they start by saving and putting aside one nickel of every year and mint mark they can find. As time passes, and they find a better example of a given year and mint, they could replace it with the one in better shape, so their collection will, over time, become both more complete and of better quality. It's cheap and easy for them.

Ten years from now you'll start seeing the Jefferson/Monticello nickels become more and more rare. Frankly, though I realize updating the design is probably not entirely a bad idea, I still am saddened by it.

51 posted on 09/16/2004 9:07:15 AM PDT by zeugma (If the gov. =must= assign me a number, it could at least be prime. How about 10980432398542099813?)
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To: evets
When pennies were redesigned in the 1980s, they were replaced with copper plated alumninum.

Here is a sneak look at the new nickels:


52 posted on 09/16/2004 9:15:40 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: evets

Dammit, why isn't an African American woman on this coin? I nominate Sally Hemmings!


53 posted on 09/16/2004 9:58:09 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: null and void
Lady Liberty be running or flying?

She'll be lounging in her jammies. :-}

54 posted on 09/16/2004 10:34:11 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Providence Has Favored Our Undertakings)
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To: evets
I love when our coinage and currency is redesigned. A new look.. changes.. it indicates a fundamental change in the country. This is OUR nickel.

Thomas Jefferson wrote quite a bit about freedom of the press.

My favorite:"The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure." --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823. ME 15:491

This Poland Spring is for you, Dan Rather you greedy rich elitist! Anyone know how much this liar earns in one year?!

Further for the 'proof' of my assertion: Only one US coin has a right facing portrait: President Lincoln on the penny. Now, President Jefferson, who was so maligned by the press just like someone we all know and love, now turns 'right'. The tables have turned. W is for Write!

As for the quote.. a truely free press would eliminate the need for an 'intelligence' agency. I believe the CIA is a relic of the Cold War and if we eliminate MSM/Old Media, we can eliminate a good deal of the intelligence apparatus. The world is totally interconnected... Pajama Clad Analysts who love what they do and do it for the love of Country will be far more effective.

No wonder we didn't know about WMD.. we had career civil servants looking for it.

55 posted on 09/16/2004 11:05:25 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Providence Has Favored Our Undertakings)
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To: evets
So as I understand it, this is just a continuation of the ciirculating commemorative program starting with this year's Lewis/Clark nickels? And then they go back to the fugly normal nickel design?

Bummer, but I think the US Mint is on the right track, trying to get the zombies that populate America to accept change.

Can't wait til the total redesign happens.
56 posted on 09/16/2004 1:35:50 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: 2banana
There was a commemorative set that came out regarding the Bill of Rights in 1993:


57 posted on 09/16/2004 1:40:02 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: television is just wrong
Because our money sucks, design-wise. And our country has a rich, rich (no pun intended 2x) history of redesigning our coins and currency. It's time boys and girl for the obligatory post of beautiful American coinage and paper currency:


1922 St. Gauden's $20 Double Eagle (obverse).

Same coin, reverse


1944 Mercury Dime (obverse)


1877 Indian Head Cent (obverse)

Same coin, reverse


1942 Walking Liberty Half-Dollar (obverse)

Same coin, reverse


1910 $2.50 Gold Quarter Eagle (obverse)

Same coin, reverse

Next the paper money.
58 posted on 09/16/2004 1:59:08 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

The new obverse (Jefferson) would remain and Montecello would be restored to the reverse... it would probably be updated too.

Interesting note left off the Yahoo piece: the word "Liberty" is a reproduction of the word in Jefferson's own hand.


59 posted on 09/16/2004 2:09:53 PM PDT by RayBob
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To: evets

Jesus Christ! STOP F*CKING WITH THE MONEY!


60 posted on 09/16/2004 2:11:15 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: television is just wrong

1901 $10 US Note, a/k/a the Bison Note (front)

Same note, back


1934 $10,000 Federal Reserve Note


1896 $5 US Note, from the Education Series (front)

Same note, back


1922 $20 Gold Certificate (front)

Same note, back


1882 $10,000 Gold Certificate, *reproduction*


1899 $5 Silver Certificate (front)

1899 $1 Silver Certificate (front)
61 posted on 09/16/2004 2:11:33 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: evets

I bought a silver proof set of the 2004 coins last weekend, and the set has the two new nickels in it. I hadn't looked at the set that closely until I got home and saw the new design, so I wasn't able to ask the dealer about the changes. Guess I'll start saving some of the old design nickels.


62 posted on 09/16/2004 2:14:53 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The money needs a design update. Do some research on the history of our coinage. You'd be surprised at A) How many different designs there have been and B) The breathtaking beauty of some of it. Real art.

Also, the anomaly is not changing the coinage, it's how long we've kept our FUGLY designs. Lincoln since 1909, Jefferson since 1938, Roosevelt since 1946, Washington since 1932. I won't go into the half dollar since it's pretty much defunct, and the dollar has changed, but the designs have been hideous.
63 posted on 09/16/2004 2:15:18 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: evets

is it me or should the coastline be reversed. If you were traveling from east to west as you approached the pacific wouldn't the water be on your left?


64 posted on 09/16/2004 2:18:53 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (q)
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At least half of the people on this thread need to up their Metamucil dosage. Our coins are boring as heck, and this change is long overdue.

A problem is the mint messed up badly when they introduced the Sac dollar. Also, I think the new paper bills look like Monopoly money or something. But, then again, REAL money clinks not rustles.

65 posted on 09/16/2004 2:21:15 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Conservative til I die
It's not so annoying that it's being changed....it's the frequency and diversity of the change.  We don't need a Dime of the Week.

For people living in border states to Canada, the 50 State quarter program has been a unending minor annoyance for years. 

The only thing that would have made that pain in the a$$ worth it would have been if the Washington State quarter had the same Washington profile on both sides.

66 posted on 09/16/2004 2:45:18 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: evets

It looks more like an image of Bob Hope impersonating Thomas Jefferson.


67 posted on 09/16/2004 2:52:36 PM PDT by Lockbar (Worried about lead poisoning? Then stop eating the paint chips, Dummy!)
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To: .38sw

Believe me, those old nickels are worthless, unless you get some of the early ones in pristine condition. How many billions of nickels have been minted in the last 30 years alone?


68 posted on 09/16/2004 4:07:43 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: evets

Wow those are some bags under TJ's eyes!


69 posted on 09/16/2004 4:08:30 PM PDT by lawgirl (It's not about Vietnam- it's about John Kerry's lies about Vietnam.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
It's not so annoying that it's being changed....it's the frequency and diversity of the change. We don't need a Dime of the Week.

The dime hasn't been changed in 58 years. The penny in 95. The nickel in about 66. I don't call that "coin of the week."

The quarter and nickel programs are part of a circulating commemorative program.
70 posted on 09/16/2004 4:09:24 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die

um.....ya....ok


71 posted on 09/16/2004 4:21:38 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: zeugma
When was the last time you saw a wheat penny?

About two weeks ago. It's out of circulation now...

72 posted on 09/16/2004 6:18:18 PM PDT by null and void (Bush-Bad, Kerry-Worse. Don't go from Bad to Worse...)
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To: zeugma
Ten years from now you'll start seeing the Jefferson/Monticello nickels become more and more rare. Frankly, though I realize updating the design is probably not entirely a bad idea, I still am saddened by it.

The change from silver to base metals meant that old coins were obviously worth more than face value. For other changes, though, I don't see it as such an issue. Eagle quarters are still in very wide circulation, and even the bicentenial ones show up from time to time. I would expect Monticello nickels to likewise remain around.

73 posted on 09/16/2004 9:32:09 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: Chemist_Geek
But, then again, REAL money clinks not rustles.

I thought real money jingled and only slug money clinked?

74 posted on 09/16/2004 9:35:55 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
um.....ya....ok

You debate that our coinage hasn't changed in several decades? I'm not sure I get your reply here. I mean, it's a fact.
75 posted on 09/16/2004 10:31:39 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: supercat
Jingle, clink, it's the same. My pocket covers up the details of the noise. :-)
76 posted on 09/17/2004 7:13:58 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: null and void
Today (9/17) The Wall Street Journal has an article about the new design for the Jefferson nickel (page C3). It says:

The word "liberty," in the third president's own handwriting, appears to the lower left.

77 posted on 09/17/2004 1:53:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: evets

They are going to destabilize the currency with this.


78 posted on 09/17/2004 1:56:12 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I haven't seen the Washington state quarter. Washington was the 42nd state admitted...the last one that I've seen is the Texas quarter (28th state).

So far they have been issuing the quarters in the order states ratified the Constitution (for the original 13 states) or were admitted to the Union. What about the 11 states that seceded and then were readmitted...shouldn't they get another reverse design to commemorate their readmission?

79 posted on 09/17/2004 2:02:50 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Thanks. I thought/hoped so.


80 posted on 09/18/2004 12:51:46 PM PDT by null and void (Two lines that Terry Kerry will be famous for: Get naked and Shove it...)
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