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Dead Soldier's Mother Arrested For Shouting At Laura Bush
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Posted on 09/16/2004 10:21:54 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Dead Soldier's Mother Arrested For Shouting At Laura Bush Woman Blames Bush For Son's Death

POSTED: 12:20 pm EDT September 16, 2004 UPDATED: 1:15 pm EDT September 16, 2004

HAMILTON, N.J. -- Police have arrested the mother of a solider killed in Iraq at a Bush-Cheney rally where first Lady Laura Bush was speaking in Hamilton.

Sue Niederer, Feb. 4, 2004

Sue Niederer of Hopewell, N.J., was escorted from the firehouse when she shouted a question at the first lady about why was her son killed. She was wearing a T-shirt with her son's picture that said, "President Bush You Killed My Son."

Police arrested her when she refused to leave.

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1 posted on 09/16/2004 10:21:55 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Pleasant woman otherwise, I'm sure.

2 posted on 09/16/2004 10:22:59 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ouch
maybe NJ wont be in play


3 posted on 09/16/2004 10:23:16 AM PDT by DM1
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To: Sub-Driver

I am sure her son would have been proud...


4 posted on 09/16/2004 10:23:40 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Sub-Driver
She was not arrested for yelling at Laura Bush. She was arrested for refusing to leave at securities request. Headline is misleading.

However, does anyone remember the couple in Chicago standing on a sidewalk who yelled "You Suck" at Bill Clinton, who he had the SS detain? I remember it.

5 posted on 09/16/2004 10:24:01 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Sub-Driver

The headline lures ya in, and then there's that silly thing called a fact again: the woman was arrested not for shouting at the First Lady, but for "when she refused to leave."


6 posted on 09/16/2004 10:24:12 AM PDT by Chummy ("I Rather Know when I See BS." RepublicanAttackSquad.biz: "A vote 4 Kerry is a vote 4 Osama")
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To: thoughtomator

Yikes. I'm sorry about her son, but the president didn't kill him.


7 posted on 09/16/2004 10:24:19 AM PDT by rabidralph (Doing the gloating that Republicans won't do.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Police arrested her when she refused to leave.

So was she arrested for shouting at Laura Bush or refusing to leave...

MSM - tick, tick, tick...

8 posted on 09/16/2004 10:24:26 AM PDT by danneskjold (All balloons, what the hell! There's nothing falling! What the f%#@ are you guys doing up there?)
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To: Sub-Driver

So sad to disgrace her son's death in such a way.


9 posted on 09/16/2004 10:24:38 AM PDT by zencat (Magnetic BUSH/CHENEY bumper stickers ---> www.gwbushmagnets.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Can't have complaining families of dead soldiers around the first lady, now can we?


10 posted on 09/16/2004 10:25:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I'm very sorry for her loss but I must mention that she is an outspoken anti-war activist. She was very prominent during the RNC protests, was interview and received a lot of anti-Bush, anti-war coverage.


11 posted on 09/16/2004 10:25:01 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Sub-Driver

If this lady called Laura Bush she probably would have recieved a call back from the first lady. Instead, she wants to create a commotion. This lady did the wrong thing.


12 posted on 09/16/2004 10:25:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: zencat

She disgraces only herself. Her son's death will continue to retain its meaning regardless of her actions.


13 posted on 09/16/2004 10:26:08 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: freeperfromnj

http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2004/08/15399.php


14 posted on 09/16/2004 10:26:36 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Sub-Driver

Why did he enlist?


16 posted on 09/16/2004 10:26:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ('Stay together, pay the soldiers, forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus, to his sons)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dear Sue Niederer:

Your son took a soldier's chances, like EVERY OTHER U.S. warrior in our history. My Dad narrowly missed being killed several times in WW2 and it was his close friends who died. It is called FATE. Your son knew what he was doing, he was a courageous VOLUNTEER and HE and his buddies fight/fought for something BIGGER than himself and you DISHONOR his, and their memories by your actions.


17 posted on 09/16/2004 10:26:53 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. (I operate the minigun, more fun):.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Look, we mourn with this mother her loss. Here anger and her greif are understandable.

However, her anger is misplaced. Jihadists and islamo-terrorists killed her son, not the President.

Her son volunteered for military duty and he must have done so knowing he might be put in harms way to protect his country.

We mourn with this mother, but hope she honors her son's death by treating him as a hero and not as a victim.


18 posted on 09/16/2004 10:27:41 AM PDT by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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To: Non-Sequitur

My family lost a son in a previous war, there was no shouting. No disgracing his death.


19 posted on 09/16/2004 10:28:32 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: Sub-Driver
Since this is coming from a network news source, I have to ask:

How do we know this woman ever had a son?
And if she did, how do we know he was in the military?
And if he was, how do we know that he was killed?
And if he was, how do we know that he was killed in Iraq?

Sounds like an activist stunt to me.

20 posted on 09/16/2004 10:28:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I have two words for John Kerry: "YYYEEEEAAARRGGGHHHH!!!!")
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To: Sub-Driver

I have three children, 5, 3 and 1. The thought of losing one of them is too much to bear.

I support Bush, and I support the war. I also know that this woman's son was a volunteer.

I hope I would never act as this woman did, but I have to say, I find it very hard to attack a grief stricken mother for her irrational act of free speech after the loss of a child.

I wish she found a different way -- but we should all be glad we are not her today.


21 posted on 09/16/2004 10:29:02 AM PDT by Iron Eagle
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To: Sub-Driver

It's sad when parents use the death of their children for cheap partisan purposes. If the woman's son did indeed die in Iraq, he is to be honored for his service to his country, but the woman is a disgrace and sullies her son's good name.


22 posted on 09/16/2004 10:29:06 AM PDT by HoustonTech (Remember 9/11. Vote for Strength. Vote for Bush.)
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To: UncleSamUSA

On the other hand, if she uses her son's death as an excuse to foment her far-left ideology, much as Nick Berg's wacko father has done, then she can bite me.


23 posted on 09/16/2004 10:29:35 AM PDT by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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To: Sub-Driver
Police arrested her when she refused to leave.

The title is different than the reason stated in the article for arrest.

24 posted on 09/16/2004 10:29:39 AM PDT by smith288 (Did you know John Kerry was a senator? What's his record, I wonder...)
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To: Sub-Driver

She wasn't arrested for shouting at Laura Bush, she was arrested for refusing to leave.... details matter.


25 posted on 09/16/2004 10:29:58 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Tell her to go join the 9/11 whores.


26 posted on 09/16/2004 10:30:08 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Proud Virginian)
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To: gunnygail

These people who are using their sons and daughters deaths at the hands of the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan as a political weapon disgust me. I feel sorry for their losses. How could I not? But they greatly dishonor the heroism and sacrifice and that ticks me off.


27 posted on 09/16/2004 10:30:18 AM PDT by shawngf
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To: Non-Sequitur
Can't have complaining families of dead soldiers around the first lady, now can we?

Cant read the article, now can we?

28 posted on 09/16/2004 10:30:44 AM PDT by smith288 (Did you know John Kerry was a senator? What's his record, I wonder...)
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To: gunnygail

well put. My daughter joined the Army, and I have thought about what would happen if......Well, I think seeing through the pain and anguish one cannot make a more nobler sacrifice than fighting to defend and protect their country.


29 posted on 09/16/2004 10:30:58 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: cynicom
My family lost a son in a previous war, there was no shouting. No disgracing his death.

I've never lost a son or daughter, in a war or for any other cause so I can't speak from experience. And I can't honestly say that if I had, that my feelings would be different from this lady. I would like to think that they would but I don't know what that level of grief would do to me.

30 posted on 09/16/2004 10:31:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Sub-Driver
She was wearing a T-shirt with her son's picture that said, "President Bush You Killed My Son."

So sad. A hero gives gives his life for his country and his own mother defames his sacrifice.

It's hard to understand how she must feel, but no maam...President Bush did not kill your son, ignorance and terrorism did. So sad.

God bless our brave troops.

31 posted on 09/16/2004 10:31:08 AM PDT by paulcissa (Only YOU can prevent liberalism.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I hate this kind of crap.

I am terribly sorry for anyone who loses a child to war, but...........

When a person enlists, BY CHOICE, this is his/her job. The risk is not a surprise and clearly the individuals have bravely decided to defend their freedom and their country.

Instead of honoring her son, this woman brings shame upon herself. Too bad.

32 posted on 09/16/2004 10:31:27 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Phantom Lord
Yes but that headline will be jumped on by Kerry as his new antiwar postermom; that is if he is in his antiwar spin cycle.
33 posted on 09/16/2004 10:31:48 AM PDT by Centaur (Never practice moderation to excess.)
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To: freeperfromnj

Yes, she has received a lot of air time already in the media. So, this is just another instance. You will see her again.

I also am deeply sorry that she lost her son. I can't imagine the pain. But I must wonder why her pain has transformed into publicity-seeking anger. I think she's avoiding the grief.


34 posted on 09/16/2004 10:31:56 AM PDT by KiloLima (September 11, 2001 : Never Forget.)
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To: Sub-Driver
She was wearing a T-shirt with her son's picture that said, "President Bush You Killed My Son."

The article goes on to say. Army 1st Lt. Seth Dvorin died in February while trying to disarm a bomb in Iraq. The 24-year-old had just returned to Iraq after spending two weeks with his family.

Made distraught by the loss of her son she is obviously confused about who killed her son. She is also totally clueless as to why it was necessary that Lt. Dvorin to be in Iraq.

We pray for her son and wish God's grace be visited upon her soon.

35 posted on 09/16/2004 10:32:10 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush your enemies; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women)
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To: Non-Sequitur

No, we can't. You have a problem with that?


36 posted on 09/16/2004 10:32:23 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against Jean-France Kerry.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wondering what she was shouting. The article doesn't say.


38 posted on 09/16/2004 10:32:40 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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To: thoughtomator

Here's a link to a tribute to her son - it's called something like Wall of Remembrance. On the whole it is very positive, with one poster remarking on how angry his mother is right now. http://www.fallenheroesmemorial.com/oif/profiles/dvorinsethj.html



She is very much an outspoken anti-war activist - possibly even before her son joined. She has an anti-American agenda - just like Nick Berg's dad.


39 posted on 09/16/2004 10:32:50 AM PDT by Rabid Dog (Make a difference in your community - Join your local Free Republic Chapter!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The media bias is amazing. this will be news, when Bush went to the National Guard in Vegas and spoke, a few family members of guardsmen lost in Iraq held a press conference and attacked Bush; it got coverage. A few thousand vets hold a protest in DC against Kerry and zip coverage. Four or five 9-11 widows endorse Kerry and its big news, The NY Fire Department supports Bush and zip. Same with a poll a couple of weeks back that showed the majority supported Bush


40 posted on 09/16/2004 10:33:40 AM PDT by jbwbubba (stunner)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You actually make a brutally profound point. We really do have to question absolutely every assertion before we take it as fact.


41 posted on 09/16/2004 10:33:42 AM PDT by paulklenk (FOUR MORE WARS!)
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To: Centaur
Yes but that headline will be jumped on by Kerry as his new antiwar postermom

They already used her at the anti-war protests at the RNC Convention. She's been a well known anti-war activist for several months now.

42 posted on 09/16/2004 10:33:55 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: thoughtomator

I will not comment because I have nothing nice to say.


43 posted on 09/16/2004 10:35:02 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think)
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To: Sub-Driver

Another "dishonest MSM" FReep accomplished. I am having a GOOD week. : )


44 posted on 09/16/2004 10:35:07 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bush didn't kill her son, a Muslim "jihadist" did. I wonder how long she has worked for the Democratic party.


45 posted on 09/16/2004 10:35:12 AM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: thoughtomator

She's got a history of doing stuff like this...I ran a Google search on her.

And as far as I can tell, this is the only site with this title...all the others say she was arrested after disrupting the First Lady's speech.


46 posted on 09/16/2004 10:36:37 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (I lowered my cholesterol.)
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To: Sub-Driver

makes about as much sense as me yelling at the Marlboro Man
for my mom dying of cancer.
well, she got her 15 minutes.


47 posted on 09/16/2004 10:37:59 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece: seeBS -all your forgeries are belong to us)
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To: Non-Sequitur

This is an unfortunate situation, however her son signed up for military service knowing the possibilities that he could be injured or killed in combat. This woman who probably had anti-war leanings before her son's death is now taking that negative emotion and directing it at the President because she doesn't know how to deal with it. Her personal biases undoubtedly play a role in this way of thinking as well. It's all part of the grieving process, somebody has to be blamed, the same can be said for the 9/11 widows that endorsed Kerry. They had 2 widows on a cable show the other night, one supported Bush, one Kerry. They were asked what have you done since the death of your husband. The Bush supporter has gone on to start a business, and helped establish and fund raise 9/11 charitable organizations. The Kerry supporter has done nothing besides grind the axe for the 9/11 commission report. It's the simple fact that Kerry supporters tend to be those that cannot deal with their loss, and the emotions that come with it.


48 posted on 09/16/2004 10:38:51 AM PDT by AKSurprise
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To: Iron Eagle
I find it very hard to attack a grief stricken mother """

There have been several stories of grief-stricken parents losing it after their kids were killed over in Iraq. The guy who set the car on fire down in Florida, for example, and the family that put up a Bush-bashing sign in their yard a couple of weeks ago. Learning that your kid died - when there aren't any WMDs in Iraq - can make some parents a lot less complacent than some of the freepers who support this war 110 percent, but don't have any family members fighting in it. (In case you haven't guessed, I don't support the Iraq invasion. No, I'm not a liberal - I'm a conservative on all the big issues; but when this war came along, I had to disagree with its 'necessity', and the tragic results - the mess we've got on our hands - have proved me right, unfortunately).

49 posted on 09/16/2004 10:39:32 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Sub-Driver

The brutal truth is that her son died so Moore can make another movie, Rather can file another story, and she can continue to yell.


50 posted on 09/16/2004 10:40:35 AM PDT by hsrazorback1 (G'night, John Boy.)
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