Posted on 09/16/2004 7:41:01 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
Publication In Or After September
by Rev. Louis P. Sheldon Chairman, Traditional Values Coalition
Washington, DC – Homosexual activists have apparently decided to reveal the next phase of their agenda this fall in theaters all over the United States. Nicole Kidman’s film “Birth” and Kevin Bacon’s “The Woodsman,” both present sympathetic views of pedophilia. “Three of Hearts: A Postmodern Family,” by film producer Susan Kaplan tells the story of two homosexual males and a female who become a “family” and eventually produce a child. Her film was recently shown at the Toronto Film Festival.
We have long been warning that the next phase of the homosexual movement would include the normalization of adult/child sex and the promotion of polyamory—multiple sex partners as “family.” Apparently that time has arrived.
The whole debate over the legalization of same-sex marriage takes on new urgency as we are being taught by Susan Kaplan that marriage shouldn’t be limited to just two partners—but three, four, or more—in various combinations.
Once same-sex marriage breaks free of its quarantine in Massachusetts and is legalized elsewhere—it will be difficult to stop sexual anarchists from demanding the “right to marry” two or more individuals. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that the legal briefs are already written by homosexual legal firms or the ACLU, just waiting to be filed when the time is right.
And, of course, organizations such as the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) are now working closely with the Woodhull Freedom Foundation (WFF) to undermine “age of consent” laws in the 50 states, to promote the legalization of public sex by homosexuals in restrooms and parks, and to legalize prostitution. The NGLTF and WFF bragged about this new campaign in a press release issued on May 28, 2004. This new coalition apparently wants children to be free to engage in sex with whomever they wish—regardless of age.
This will be a dream come true for the North American Man-Boy Love Association—and it will become open season for molesters to assault children.
Kevin Bacon’s film, “The Woodsman” is produced by homosexual activist filmmaker Lee Daniels who told a reporter for “Film Festival Today” that he wanted to “put a benign face on pedophilia” in this film. A benign face on someone who molests children? Why would someone want to provide a sympathetic view of a man who robs children of their innocence and condemns them to years of guilt and shame?
And, why would Nicole Kidman want to portray a woman who thinks a 10-year-old boy is her reincarnated husband? The film shows Kidman and the boy sitting naked in a tub together during a dream sequence.
These three films are part of an overall homosexual-inspired trend that seeks to deconstruct traditional marriage and overturn the taboo against adult/child sex. Hollywood could take a powerful leadership role in condemning the destruction of marriage and helping promote a national outcry against child molesters. Instead, it has become an ally of child molesters and sexual anarchists who are intent on undermining the basic unit of civilization: the traditional family. Our children and the traditional family will suffer the consequences of this Hollywood alliance with sexual criminals and perverts.
I actually had a friend who lived with a man and a woman in a threesome relationship. I truly don't care what people do with their personal lives, but there were children involved and she lost my friendship over it. But just so you'll know, what usually happens in these sort of relationships is that one partner ultimately get jealous and the two who really want to be together stay together.
OOPS..I didn't mean to imply that the children were involved in the sex. NO NO NO. There were children being raised from the original couple.
This is nauseating; too bad both actor and actress sully their careers; they must be in desperate need of work to do this garbage.
Didn't they call us crazy for saying that pedophilia would follow homosexuality?
Yep, I knew it...that's how it starts folks. Before long, saying anything negative about NAMBLA will be considered hate speech.
No-- they called us bigots and fascists.
They were adamant, just adamant, that homosexuality had no link to pedophilia!
Read Tammy Bruce's book The Death of Right and Wrong.
The radical gay agenda is clearly outlined. It includes lowering the age of sexual consent. Every parent in the United States with a child in school should read her book.
Well, I'm going on the record to say I believe them to be filthy, disgusting, hateful perverts.
Get a load of the names of these movies, clearly "The Woodman" without my knowing anything about the movie, could clearly be some sexual "slang" type of reference; and "The Birth"? One can work with precious children; I find this connotation very negative as well though no overt sexual meaning is there.
I do however want to say that even if the NGLTF or Hollywood push pedophilia, we shouldn't assume that all gay people are child molesters. I have other acquaintances who are in quiet monogamous gay relationships. I don't want to be about the business of judging others. They will stand before God and so will I. (My friends know that I am Christian and I am celibate. They don't understand, but there it is.)
well come on out you libertarians! come support Nambla.. after all...you believe in freedom don't you?
Then I am a bigot and a fascist and proud of it. Jail the abortionists, too, before something worse happens to them.
Now that the "Lord Of The Rings" series is ended, I'm out of reasons to give Hollywood any more of my money except for DVD versions of older movies. They're saying nothing I want to hear any more.
I really thought Kidman had her head screwed on straight when she escaped the Scientist clutches of Tom Cruise.
Now, I'm afraid we gotta throw her on the pile with all the other dingbats...
Lord of the Rings wasn't Hollywood. Foreign film-makers in a foreign land using foreign financing to hire foreign people to film largely foreign actors for a non-Hollywood distributing company.
Other non-Hollywood blockbusters include My Big Fat Greek Wedding and of course The Passion of The Christ.
Lord Of The Rings was made in New Zealand with NZ crew and special effects teams. It even had "foreign" language scenes but it was not considered a foreign film by the Academy.
Fine with me.....in my best soup Nazi voice, directed at Hollywood...."NO MOVIE MONEY FOR YOU!!!" (snaps fingers)
All we have to do is say NO.
well come on out you libertarians! come support Nambla.. after all...you believe in freedom don't you?
Whether the Incas or Mayans had great civilizations is highly questionable. Human sacrifice does not a great civilization make.
As our society circles ever closer to the drain...
"Children" as in what? For example, the Feds consider any unmarried under 21 to be a "child," and unless you live in a salt mine, routinely half of high schoolers claim in studies to have had sexual experience so they're "free" as it is.
There is not a uniform federal standard either.
For those who are saying acknowledging adult homosexuals is the gateway to acceptance of pedophilies should wonder if heterosexual marriage isn't a gateway as well when "[a]bout two thirds of the victims of pedophiles are girls, most often between the ages of 8 and 11. Pedophilia predominately occurs in males, but there have been documented cases of women who have repeated sexual contact with children." (Source)
It's is unfair, unreasonable, slanderous, dangerous, disengenous and innaccurate to link adult-adult homosexuality and pedophilia (adult is 5+ yrs beyond "child's" age so an 18 yr old and a 17 yr old sexually involved is not considered pedophilia psychologically although legal standards vary).
Pedophilia (involving children under 13) itself is a subset of ephebophilia (14-17). Both of those are paraphilias (like fetishism) while homosexuality is not.
I have no particular issue with exploring controversial topics in fiction. Such things are critical to vetting ideas, opinions and concepts in a healthy society. I haven't seen these films, I don't know what rating they'll be granted nor whether they're "art house" films or intended for wide release. This isn't on network TV, it isn't in a grade school... this just seems like a "red alert" designed to spur the parting of people with their hard earned money.
Until there can be a concensus on terminology, this is a pretty pointless piece.
The Nicole Kidman film includes, as far as I'm aware, a scene where a mother and son bathe together but I don't know the context of the scene or her on-screen son's age.
“Three of Hearts: A Postmodern Family,” by film producer Susan Kaplan tells the story of two homosexual males and a female who become a “family” and eventually produce a child.
I only see a leap of logic, not a link. Other than these each being films... where's the LINK? The evidence? Devoid of specifics, is this claim any more valid than Dan Rather's "Memogate" assertions?
That's the agenda people. That's where it comes from and that's what they are striving towards.
NO BLOOD FOR KETCHUP!
Not defending these slimeballs but, you're wrong about the "innocence". Teenagers sin just as adults do, and can be spiritually lost, just as we can.
..on and on, ad nauseum..
It's a lot like using pot. It doesn't just affect the users, no matter what you think. It affects anyone and everyone they know.
Triad
(D. Crosby)
You want to know how it will be
Me and him or you and me
You both stand there your long hair flowing
Your eyes alive your minds still growing
Saying to me,
"What can we do now that we both love you",
I love you too. I don't really see
Why can't we go on as three?
You are afraid, embarrassed too
No one has ever said such a thing to you
Your mother's ghost stands at your shoulder
Face like ice, a little bit colder
Saying to you,
"You cannot do that, it breaks
All the rules you learned in school"
I don't really see
Why can't we go on as three?
We love each other, it's plain to see
There's just one answer comes to me
Sister lovers, water brothers
And in time maybe others
So you see what we can do is to try something new
If you're crazy too
I don't really see
Why can't we go on as three?
=====
Rejected for release by The Byrds, 1967
Sung by Grace Slick,
Jefferson Airplane, "Crown of Creation" album, 1968
Sung by David Crosby,
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, "Four-Way Street" album, 1970
Younger Generation
(John Sebastian)
Why must every generation think their folks are square?
And no matter where their heads are they know Mom's ain't there
Cause I swore when I was small that I'd remember when
I knew what's wrong with them that I was smaller than
Determined to remember all the cardinal rules
Like sunshowers are legal grounds for cuttin' school
I know that I've forgotten maybe one or two
And I hope that I'll recall them all before the baby's due
Cause I know he'll have a question or two
Like hey, Pop, can I go ride my zoom
That goes two hundred miles an hour, suspended on balloons
And can I put a droplet of this new stuff on my tongue
And imagine frothing dragons while you sit and wreck your lungs
And I must be permissive, understanding of the younger generation
And then I'll know that all I've learned my kid assumes
And all my deepest worries must be his cartoons
And still I'll try to tell him all the things I've done
Relating to what he can to when he becomes a man
And still he'll stick his fingers in the fan
And hey, Pop, my girlfriend's only three
She's got her own videophone and she's a-takin' LSD
And now that we're best friends she wants to give a taste to me
But what's the matter Daddy, how come you're lookin' mean?
Could it be that you can't live up to your dreams?
PONG!
"the heart of conservatism is libertarianism."
And I am not a libertarian. and none that I know support any of the stuff you say. I am a republican.
Libertarian horse$hit. Libertarians are the anarchic scum of the earth..pro-abortion, pro-drug legalization, pro-homosexuality....on and on, ad nauseum..
It just seems like a cool thing to do.
Good point. Do some research on the Traditional Values Coalition. It is waaaaay out there, and the majority of reputable conservative organizations wouldn't get within ten feet of 'em.
The Nicole Kidman film includes, as far as I'm aware, a scene where a mother and son bathe together but I don't know the context of the scene or her on-screen son's age.
Bosses of Kidman's Movie Defend Controversial Scene
29 June 2004 (WENN)
Bosses of Nicole Kidman 's latest movie Birth are defending the decision to include the actress in a bathtub scene with a 10-year-old boy. In the movie, the Oscar-winning actress' dead husband is reincarnated as a child, played by Canadian actor Cameron Bright , and it has elicited much outrage after it was revealed Kidman and her young co-star share a bathtub in one scene. But New Line Cinema's Mark Ordesky insists there's nothing in the movie to cause alarm. He says, "There is no physical contact between Nicole and Cameron. They are not nude in the bathtub. The scene was shot over Nicole's shoulder. (Cameron) is playing a grown man trapped in the body of a 10-year-old. When you see the performances in the context of the plot, it makes perfect sense. It is meant to be a provocative film, but not in a horrible or salacious way." Bright, who played Rebecca Romijn-Stamos ' son in the movie Godsend, notes, "In one movie I did, I had an abusive father, and in another I had a father who was a pedophile. I've had a lot of really dark roles." Lauren Bacall also appears in the movie as Kidman's mother.
Kidman's Kissing Scene with Boy Sparks Outrage
21 June 2004 (WENN)
Hollywood star Nicole Kidman 's latest film has sparked controversy before its even been released - because of a passionate clinch she shares with a ten-year- old boy. The Oscar-winning actress, 36, is seen getting romantic with a ten-year-old boy she believes is the reincarnation of her dead husband in Birth - which has horrified film executives. New Line Cinema bosses are anxious over scenes involving Kidman and the boy stripping off together for a bath - while another scene see the two locking lips. PR companies who are set to promote the $54 million film have allegedly called it a 'publicity nightmare'.
Liberalism is a Mental Ilness that must be crushed !
You wrote:
"I have acquaintances in polyamorous relationships. One is two men, two women but one of the women left. "
Wow. I checked your ID and it says Indiana.
I would've bet you were from California or at
least from Utah </g>
My questions to you, since you have homosexual friends,
are: [WARNING! HAND GRENADES TO FOLLOW]
a) why are so many lesbians "pro-choice" when it
probably won't affect them personally?
b) by the same token, why do so many lesbians
use artificial penises ("d*ldos")? Doesn't it
defeat the whole purpose?
c) Many feminists have derided marriage as a
stultifying social construct designed to subject
women to a lifetime as little more then sex slaves.
Given that so many homosexuals are "liberal" and
presumably have some sympathy towards these views,
why are they so anxious to get married themselves?
These are hard questions to ask, and I am not trying
to get you into trouble; do not jeopardize your
friendships for the sake of _my_ intellectual
curiosity. How did the friend react, for example,
to your suggestion about gay bigamy?
But the only homosexual of my acquaintance
(co-worker) was rather giggly and was unable even to
articulate their own resistance to the current Iraq
invasion, and had thought out their positions on
*anything* very coherently.
We have long been warning that the next phase of the homosexual movement would include the normalization of adult/child sex
And anyone who dared say that was ridiculed and told that was not true at all!
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You wrote:
"It's is unfair, unreasonable, slanderous, dangerous, disengenous and innaccurate to link adult-adult homosexuality and pedophilia "
[Sarcasm torpedo ARMED. FIRE!]
I briefly checked your ID. Yep, it was California. If they keep it up, will you scratch their eyes out? </g>
You wrote:
"It's is unfair, unreasonable, slanderous, dangerous, disengenous and innaccurate to link adult-adult homosexuality and pedophilia "
[Sarcasm torpedo ARMED. FIRE!]
I briefly checked your ID. Yep, it was California. If they keep it up, will you scratch their eyes out? </g>
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