[texasflower]

LAW ABIDING CITIZENS??? LAW ABIDING CITIZENS???

Did you two happen to read the article at all? The man has a criminal record for assaults. He pistol whipped someone.

He fled from the Border Patrol agents. He made threatening remarks AND he refused to cooperate with them saying they would have a shoot out right there.

Then he did something that resulted in the FBI firing at him. I would imagine that he pointed a gun at them.

What the hell is wrong with people like you? This man is NOT a law abiding citizen. He is a thug.

My ex husband is a Border Patrol agent and I can guarantee you that they have all sorts of trouble with these "law abiding citizens".

You people are downright scary.

[CWOJackson]

Careful dear lady...when they get testy when they're in a frenzy.

[TLI]

You people are downright scary.

It's a shame the Border Patrol can't be "downright scary."

Perhaps the illegal aliens would have stayed in mexico.

[Ron H.]

My ex husband is a Border Patrol agent and I can guarantee you that they have all sorts of trouble with these "law abiding citizens".

And you'd consider yourself objective?!

[from occupied ga]

ou people are downright scary.

Then I suggest you go hide under your bed.

[Poohbah]

Welcome to the anti-illegal-immigrant-nutball wing of Free Republic. Your post shows that you are using logic and common sense. These are scarce commodities in here.

[Just another Joe]

Did you read the article at all?
The man shot was not the man that had a record, was not the man that was a felon carrying a gun to pistol whip anyone, was not the man the FBI was after.

Border Patrol is not the issue in the article. FBI using powers that ought not to be used at the time is the issue.
The FBI can keep us safe from terrorists internal to our nation but can't find a time and place to arrest a citizen without getting into a shootout and hitting the wrong man?

Yeh, right.

[Melas]

You're being way too calm and reasonable here. That's never going to fly in one of these immigration threads where logic and reason are poor substitutes for rabid hysteria.

[Smokin' Joe]

You are, of course, right about felony convictions.

The problem with all this that I, personally, have is that the group Ranch Rescue has been around for a long time. That the timing of this confrontation should roughly coincide with the sunset of the semi-automatic rifle ("assault weapons") ban raises an eyebrow for those of us who became sensitive (under the Clinton years) to grandstand confrontations with groups in "compounds" just as some piece of anti-gun legislation was being considered.

Horrific events occurred from Waco to Columbine, oddly with the appearance of being well timed to create bad press for all gunowners, not just criminals.

Many career people now in high places in the Nation's LEAs were emplaced under Clinton, and Clinton was one of the most anti-gun POTUSs ever.

Unfortunately, the multitude of citizens' groups which sprang up on the heels of Waco were branded by the Left as extremist, and groups like Morris Dees's SPLC and Mark Pittcavage's "Militia Watchdog" defined who was 'extremist' for LEAs at all levels.

Mostly, the groups are composed of people who feel they have cause to be scared because the actions of the Government make no sense.

There are folks with criminal records everywhere, and these groups have no immunity to that.

The militia watchdog site has been absorbed by the ADL, and their latest article on militias can be found here: Militias expanding again

Seeing that on their website makes me wonder, especially when the Dems would use the ploy of branding everyone from the NRA on out as 'domestic terrorists' to push their anti-gun agenda.