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Kerry Questioned About His 'Chinese Assault Rifle'
CSN News ^ | 9/17/04 | Susan Jones

Posted on 09/17/2004 7:41:45 AM PDT by IamJustright

John Kerry states "My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam. I don't own one of those now, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; chicomlover; hypocracy; kerry
I just love this kind of stuff
1 posted on 09/17/2004 7:41:45 AM PDT by IamJustright
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To: IamJustright

uh, an AK is Russian, hardly Chinese. if lurch has a chinese machine gun (or any other kind), then he needs to be investigated by ATF, charged, and thrown in the hoosegow.


2 posted on 09/17/2004 7:44:01 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: IamJustright

"Actually, I don't own it, my family owns it!"


3 posted on 09/17/2004 7:44:25 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: IamJustright
Cool. Maybe he can go hunting with Feinstein and Schumer.

4 posted on 09/17/2004 7:44:40 AM PDT by glock rocks ("Bush is playing chess, and Kerry is playing checkers." - Dick Morris)
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To: camle
charged, and thrown in the hoosegow.

The ATF don't throw people in the hoosegow.

They burn your house down.

Saves money in court costs.

5 posted on 09/17/2004 7:46:52 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: IamJustright

Did he bring this back from Vietnam? or was it smuggled into the country at a later time? If he brought it back that would be an illegal war trophy. If it were smuggled, that just speaks for itself.


6 posted on 09/17/2004 7:47:05 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: IamJustright
Kerrry: "I actually was FOR assault weapons before I was against them."
7 posted on 09/17/2004 7:47:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: IamJustright

Well, don't get too wound up about this.

If Kerry in fact has a Kalashnikov of some sort, odds are
it's a DEWAT - DEactivated WAr Trophy - welded receiver.
Entirely legal at the fed level, and maybe even in the
Peoples State of Taxachusetts.

So the question isn't "where's the rifle"?
It's first "what is it?"


8 posted on 09/17/2004 7:49:26 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: dinasour

WHICH house would they pick?


9 posted on 09/17/2004 7:49:34 AM PDT by marty60
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To: fishtank

"Actually, I owned it, before I didn't own it".


10 posted on 09/17/2004 7:51:02 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Boundless

If it were deactivated wouldn't you think he would mention that. I think JFK has been deactivated, disconnected and discomboberated.


11 posted on 09/17/2004 7:51:45 AM PDT by IamJustright
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To: marty60
WHICH house would they pick?

Decisions. Decisions. So many choices, so little time.

12 posted on 09/17/2004 7:53:18 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: camle

So, a minor detail in the proof. John Kerry answer the question. In all fairness, I have to give credit to Dan Rather for that response.


13 posted on 09/17/2004 7:54:22 AM PDT by IamJustright
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To: camle

No, there are lots of Chinese AK knock-offs.


14 posted on 09/17/2004 7:55:10 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: IamJustright
The AK-47’s used by the Vietcong were a true select fire rifle. Didn’t the GCA of ’68 prohibit the import of machineguns except for government use? Please correct me if I am wrong but if this is a Vietnam war bring back and it arrived in the US after the signing of the Gun Control Act of 1968 it cannot be a legally registered machinegun. Under the National Firearms Act of 1934 possession of an unregistered machinegun is a felony punishable by 10 years and $250,000. Kerry came back in 1969, right?
15 posted on 09/17/2004 7:56:29 AM PDT by Auslander (Always remember, "You fight how you train." So, train hard, train often.)
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To: camle

I assumed he was talking about owning an SKS.


16 posted on 09/17/2004 7:57:14 AM PDT by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: IamJustright

> If it were deactivated wouldn't you think he would mention that.

It might actually be more useful to leave his "core"
wondering if the boss owns a real full-auto-capable
assault rifle. AWB supporter indeed.

JfK is just amazing. He's not just a traditional
waffler who's on both sides of every issue; on many
key topics, he seems to have at least THREE positions.

Clinton recently told him:
"John, that's not what I meant by 'triangulate'",
but it went right over Kerry's head.


17 posted on 09/17/2004 8:01:08 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: camle

AK-47s, as well as SKSs were made in Russia, China, Czechoslovakia, etc. The Russian-made models were the best of the lot.

It is a Warsaw Pact rifle - commie made - but a damn fine weapon. I still use my Chinese SKS for deer hunting. It's pretty accurate up to 150-175 yards or so. The 7.62 X 39 soft core ammo drops 'em in their tracks.


18 posted on 09/17/2004 8:01:59 AM PDT by Don Simmons (I'm damn proud of MY medals - because I earned them!)
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To: IamJustright

Not to mention having had a double orchiectomy.


19 posted on 09/17/2004 8:20:51 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: IamJustright
Gun-smuggling John Kerry admits violating gun laws

Today, Senator John Kerry (Democrat, MA) admitted violating Federal and Military law, stating "one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle."

Ownership of fully automtic assault rifles used by the Viet Cong (VC) or North Vietnamese Army (NVA) is illegal in the United States. These military assault weapons can kill dozens of people in a crowd with one pull of the trigger.

Only people with specialized Federal permits are allowed to own such weapons. Whether Senator Kerry is a member of this rarified group of gun afficionados has not been determined at this time.

Usually a public admission of fully automatic weapons ownership is accompanied by a declaration that such ownership is properly permitted by Federal authorities. Senator Kerry's admission of ownership without proper licensing suggests he stands in violation of gun laws.

Bringing back war trophies is illegal under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Recently, several servicemen returning from Iraq have had their trophies confiscated, and have been subjected to Military disciplinary actions, up to imprisonment and dishonorable discharge. Senator Kerry's admission puts him afoul of rules in place at the time he returned from Viet Nam.

Just this week, Senator Kerry condemned the Bush Administration's lack of a fight in favor of extending the ill-named "Assault Weapons Ban" (AWB). The ban that ended this past week controlled the number of bullets in a gun clip, and certain stock and hand-grip features. These features make guns look like they are for military use (hence the AWB's nickname "Ugly Gun Cosmetic Control"), but the features do not make them appreciably more dangerous than the Browning Automatic Rifle used by many deer hunters each fall. All of these weapons fire one bullet per pull of the trigger.

The AWB did not apply to the fully automatic feature of Senator Kerry's gun, in which one pull of the trigger results in a relatively uncontrolled spray of several bullets per second. Senator Kerry's gun has been illegal since he brought it back, before, during and after the lapsing this week of the AWB law. Kerry's ownership of a more lethal and still illegal fully automatic true assault weapon undermines his criticism of Bush's willingness to allow the "ugly gun cosmetic control" AWB to lapse.

Senator Kerry's illegal weapons stash may be investigated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF). The BATF is famous for burning to the ground houses in Waco, Texas in which they believed arms like Senator Kerry's were owned. Whether Senator Kerry's several mansions will be surrounded by tanks and searched by the BATF remains unclear at this time.

If this felonious admission by Senator Kerry is properly investigated and prosecuted, Kerry's ability to serve as President from Federal Penitentiary may become an issue in the Presidential campaign.

(FReeper FRiends: Forward this to your favorite news outlets, and see if they pick it up!)

20 posted on 09/17/2004 8:29:05 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (SPITBALLS?!)
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To: kjam22

This debate doesn't matter IMHO, he is delusional and is just lying again. Like the CIA hat and the flying dog and Cambodia and his metals and throwing away his metals and his cars and... well you get the point.

Tomorrow, he will say something just the opposite of what he said today, and he will not even know he did it.

Everything is Vietnam. Every question, issue, policy, decision, debate, everything is about Vietnam.

Everytime he speaks, my friends, my wife, and I have a pool on how many words he will say before he mentions Vietnam.

I swear, he is a nut and he needs a psychological examination. I'm not kidding!

The guy is certifiable. (must be post traumatic stress or something...?)


21 posted on 09/17/2004 8:29:16 AM PDT by Chewbacco (I actually did have a tagline, before I erased it.)
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To: camle

I am more interested in the fact that it propably has a bayonet lug and a flash supressor. Both these items are on the Assault Weapons Ban list of no-no items!


22 posted on 09/17/2004 8:35:07 AM PDT by Holicheese (Lovey, the Scaramouch is sinking along with my campaign!)
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To: Don Simmons

What would you want to bet that he bought one of these SKSs back in the early 80's and told everyone that he took it off a dead VC that he "whacked" back in Nam....
I think the feds should get up in his grill!


23 posted on 09/17/2004 8:45:20 AM PDT by Holicheese (Lovey, the Scaramouch is sinking along with my campaign!)
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To: IamJustright

Knowing the lefties definition of "assault rifles" It is likely a SKS, or could even be a model 1891 Mosin-Nagant bolt action rifle.


24 posted on 09/17/2004 8:49:05 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: IamJustright

Knowing the lefties definition of "assault rifles" It is likely a SKS, or could even be a model 1891 Mosin-Nagant bolt action rifle.


25 posted on 09/17/2004 8:49:06 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: IamJustright
John Kerry states "My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam. I don't own one of those now, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle."

Well, CBS *thought* this rifle was a Chinese model from the Vietnam era, but the superscripted Chinese characters not present in stamping equipment of the time shows that it was actually a recent Norinco knockoff.

Dan Rather stands by his original broadcast, claiming the rifle is authentic.

26 posted on 09/17/2004 8:51:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: IamJustright

BTTT


27 posted on 09/17/2004 8:52:29 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Don Simmons
"It is a Warsaw Pact rifle - commie made - but a damn fine weapon. I still use my Chinese SKS for deer hunting. It's pretty accurate up to 150-175 yards or so. The 7.62 X 39 soft core ammo drops 'em in their tracks."

That was the first thought when I heard he said "I've never used an AK for deer hunting." Try it John, you might be surprised. Similar power to a .30-30 (my understanding is that it's more powerful at extended ranges than a .30-30, but up close the .30-30 wins hands down), which sure as hell has taken down many a deer. I mean, the 7.62x39 is probably even cheaper than the .30-30. And out of a full-length barrel SKS, more velocity than an AK.

Darn you, Mr. Simmons, now you make me want to fondle my SKS.

28 posted on 09/17/2004 9:01:16 AM PDT by mbennett203
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To: mbennett203

"Darn you, Mr. Simmons, now you make me want to fondle my SKS."

SIMMER DOWN NOW!!! This is supposed to be a family site! :-)


29 posted on 09/17/2004 9:03:31 AM PDT by Don Simmons (I'm damn proud of MY medals - because I earned them!)
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To: Holicheese
"Both these items are on the Assault Weapons Ban list of no-no items!"

It would only confirm my theory that the folks who write these unconstitutional crap bans don't even know what the hell they're talking about, and probably couldn't ID those parts on a given rifle. People that have never handled a gun, or have but support idiocy like that shouldn't write gun policy. It's all based in ignorance.

30 posted on 09/17/2004 9:03:44 AM PDT by mbennett203
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To: IamJustright

Bush: "My favorite gun is a Weatherby Athena 20-gauge (over/under)".


31 posted on 09/17/2004 9:05:10 AM PDT by Sender (It is not their patriotism, but their judgment, that is so sorely lacking. -Zell Miller)
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To: Don Simmons

LOL, sry, maybe I loves mah guns a little too much.

"You will give your rifle a GIRL'S NAME, because this is the only..." well most of you probably know the rest.


32 posted on 09/17/2004 9:05:39 AM PDT by mbennett203
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To: IamJustright

Please use original titles when posting. Thanks.


33 posted on 09/17/2004 9:06:30 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sender

Bush: "My favorite gun is a Weatherby Athena 20-gauge (over/under)".

I picked the more expensive one. Bush ain't Kerry rich, but he's not a pauper. If I were him, I'd go for the really nice one. I'd imagine his actually get used outside of photo ops tho.

34 posted on 09/17/2004 9:11:38 AM PDT by mbennett203
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To: mbennett203

"You will give your rifle a GIRL'S NAME,..."

Full Metal Jacket, right?

I named my Harley (Miss Dixie Rose) and several of my guitars...but none of my guns. Thanks for reminding me that I need to do so!

By the way - did I mention that john kerry sucks. :-)


35 posted on 09/17/2004 9:32:21 AM PDT by Don Simmons (I'm damn proud of MY medals - because I earned them!)
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To: IamJustright

This is my rifle, this is my gun. Kerry doesnt know jack about military nomenclature.


36 posted on 09/17/2004 10:36:19 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: mbennett203

I agree that the majority of this crab legislation is "feel good" garbage.
I did read that drive by stabbing have been down since the removal of bayonet lugs, so that is good!


37 posted on 09/17/2004 12:49:09 PM PDT by Holicheese (Lovey, the Scaramouch is sinking along with my campaign!)
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To: Holicheese

Well, feel good in the sense that the ignorant love it because it gives some aura of "increased safety" (I could probably sell them rocks I found in a pond as being "magical."). The major players pushing it though, IMHO are up to something more sinister. Or if they're given the benefit of the doubt, they are tremendous idiots.


38 posted on 09/17/2004 1:01:01 PM PDT by mbennett203
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To: IamJustright

He got it chasing out the Japs from Japan in WWII.

I had Dan Rather fax me over the inside plans for the Kerry campaign. The Kerry campaign has decided that WWII vets are more popular so will be dropping the I Served in Vietnam and switch to Kerry's accomplishments in WWII tomorrow.


39 posted on 09/17/2004 8:35:11 PM PDT by festus (Proud and Practicing Member of the Pajama Posse)
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To: festus

Err. That should read chasing the Japs from China in WWII.

Danged PJ's are making it hard to type......


40 posted on 09/17/2004 8:36:08 PM PDT by festus (Proud and Practicing Member of the Pajama Posse)
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To: camle
uh, an AK is Russian, hardly Chinese

The design is Soviet, by a man named Kalashnikov, but it has been produced in many countries, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, E. Germany, Egypt and others. Norinco produces them in China. IIRC, some of the ones the NVA used were Chinese, although I think more may have been from other countries, primarily Russia and it's east European vassals, since Chinese and Vietnamese have "issues" that go back way before WW-II, many generations before.

41 posted on 09/17/2004 9:22:50 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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