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The Mullahs' Europe [historian Bernhard Lewis: "EU Islamic by 2100"]
FrontPageMage.com ^ | 21 September 2004 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:47:16 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast

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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
I think this article was posted yesterday, but it strikes me, as someone pointed out in that discussion, that this is all greatly exaggerated when you consider that the numbers of non-Europeans in Europe is tiny, with only France having approximately 10% of its population non-Native, with most not even close to that, and those non-Natives segregated tightly in easily managed ghettos.

More important, these histrionics about Europe's imminent demise, really divert us from the real demographic catastrophe taking place in the United States. It is WE, not Europe, who are being inundated by illegal immigration and demographic change. I think it was creepy Clinton who kept gloating when he was president that the US was the only nation in history which was voluntarily permitting itself to become ethnically transformed (by 2050) from a European based society to an Hispanic based society.

This reading of OUR future was recently expanded upon by Sam Huntingtom, who affirmed that it is WE who are facing the existential question, whether we will remain a society and culture based on an Anglo-Saxon creed or whether we will splinter into two societies and cultures.

Europe, on the hand, gives few political rights or privileges to its non-natives. Witness, too, France's ruling on head-scarves, etc.

21 posted on 09/17/2004 9:52:45 AM PDT by MarlboroRed
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

In Daniel 7, the prophets has a vision of four beast which each represent an empire that will rule on Earth and reign over God's people (the Jews). Biblical scholars have long associated these beasts with the following. The lion was to represent Babylon with her swift conquests (statues of winged lions have been recovered from Babylons ruins). The bear that ravaged the lion is the Medo-Persian Empire. It is shown with three ribs in it's mouth which is thought to represent the conquest of three major enemies which is historically accurate. The leopard is Greece (specifically Alexander's Greece which conquered the known world with such speed). The leopard also has four heads whhich rep[resent the divisions of the empire after Alexander's death.

The fourth beast is the really scary one, and the one that affects the end times. In verses 7 & 8 it says "After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast-terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns. While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully." This beast represents Rome which had not come to power when Daniel was writing. He continues his description in verses 23-27 when he is explaining the meaning of the beast. "He gave me this explanation: 'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. 'But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.'" This is also mentioned in Revelation 17:12.

Okay, I know that this is wierd, so bear with me. Basically, scholars have said that this beast represents Rome. The other beasts mentioned had a clear end, but this one sort of fades away for a while and then rises up again during the end times. Rome never really had a definitive end. The Empire sort of faded away, breaking up into spheres of power and then suffering a slow decline. At the point of it's resurgence in Daniel it is basically controlled by a malevalent power usually considered to be the Anti-Christ.

There's a lot more. Read Daniel 8 for the same prophecy in a different form. Just make sure that you have a Bible with some notes at the bottom in order to try to undersdtand some of it. I borrowed liberally from my notes to give you the above summation. Basically though, all of these passages (in Daniel, Ezekiel, and Revelation) speak of this malevelent power making war against Israel and God's people. (Depending on your theology, that could mean all Christians and Jews, just the Jews, or just the Christians.) This "king" though definately emerges from what was once the Roman Empire. If you're interested in more, let me know. I'll do a little homework and get back to you.


22 posted on 09/17/2004 10:18:32 AM PDT by Syco
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Islam will be but a memory by 2100.


23 posted on 09/17/2004 10:29:38 AM PDT by Defiant (The Democrat ticket has Johnarea, an STD (SocialisticallyTransmitted Disease).)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

we have similar problems with mexicanos in parts of our cities


24 posted on 09/17/2004 12:38:16 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: risk

Thank you America friend.


25 posted on 09/17/2004 1:05:11 PM PDT by anonymoussierra
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To: MattinNJ

Yes.


26 posted on 09/17/2004 1:08:43 PM PDT by anonymoussierra
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To: shanscom

Thank you. Be strong America persons. Evil, devil lucifer persons do not like children, that evil persons do not like good persons. Time to atack, I want that evil licfer persons dead dead dead!!!!!!!!!!!!! War War War, no to evil devil persons that atack good persons!!!!!


27 posted on 09/17/2004 1:12:09 PM PDT by anonymoussierra
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To: MattinNJ

Jan III Sobieski.


28 posted on 09/17/2004 1:13:22 PM PDT by anonymoussierra
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To: shanscom

Wished he was still around.


29 posted on 09/17/2004 1:50:44 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
But since one cannot by any means screen out the jihadists from the moderate Muslims, and the moderates are not helping identify the jihadists either, what choice did the Poles have?

To anyone who would like to have a factual rationale for justifiably fearing islam, the following four books are recommended at a minimum:

Carnage and Culture, Victor Davis Hanson
Jihad, Paul Fregosi
What Went Wrong?, Bernard Lewis
The Siege of Vienna, John Stoye (Sept 11, 1683)

This cannot be stressed enough: ... since one cannot by any means screen out the jihadists from the moderate Muslims...
The "moderate muslims" myth cannot be overemphasized; The moderate ones simply are not "active participants" in the daily murder and mayhem.

30 posted on 09/17/2004 2:26:09 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: Publius6961

Don't forget Hatred's Kingdom


31 posted on 09/17/2004 2:27:58 PM PDT by Syco
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
EU Islamic by 2100

The bitter fruit of multiculturalism.

32 posted on 09/17/2004 2:31:17 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

There is only one effort which will save Europe and turn back the subhuman, murderous Muslim hordes: kill them all, to the very last Muslim. No mercy shown, no quarter given, no exceptions.

All to soon enough, we will have to do the same here in America.


33 posted on 09/17/2004 2:33:42 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Syco

Islam is Antichrist


34 posted on 09/17/2004 2:42:37 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: Delbert

I would tend to agree. The again I'm Lutheran and the party line is that the Pope is the antichrist. Go figure.


35 posted on 09/17/2004 3:03:31 PM PDT by Syco
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To: Syco
Don't forget Hatred's Kingdom

I did say at a minimum.
Who wrote that and when was it written?

If we want to start adding, I could add another dozen titles easily. Let's be modest, here.

36 posted on 09/17/2004 3:13:24 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
By 2050, given current birthrates, 1/2 of all school age children in France will be Muslim.

By the end of our children's generation Europe, as we know it, will be transformed into Eurabia.

The Decline and Fall of Europe
37 posted on 09/17/2004 3:16:01 PM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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