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Newly released guard records contain letter from President Bush's father
Associated Press | 09-17-04 | AP

Posted on 09/17/2004 2:24:56 PM PDT by fidelio

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By MATT KELLEY
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - A packet of Texas Air National Guard records newly released Friday showed that the commanding officer of President Bush's basic training unit took a special interest in him as a trainee and wrote to his father to praise his son.

Bush's father, then a congressman from Texas, said in reply to the commander, "That a major general in the Air Force would take interest in a brand new Air Force trainee made a big impression on me."

Bush went on to say that his son "will be a gung ho member" of the Air Force and that Air Force instructors had "helped awaken the very best instincts in my son."

The letter and other material were the latest in a stream of documents released about Bush's service three decades ago during the Vietnam War, when Bush's critics say he got preferential treatment as the son of a congressman and U.N. ambassador. Critics have also questioned why Bush skipped a required medical examination in 1972 and failed to show up for drills during a six-month period that year.

The White House has said repeatedly that all of Bush's Guard records have been disclosed, only to be embarrassed when new documents have turned up. The long-running story took an unusual turn when CBS uncovered documents purportedly showing that Bush refused orders to take a physical examination in 1972 - but then the authenticity of the documents came under doubt.

In addition to the letter from Bush's father, the latest documents contain news releases that the Texas Air National Guard sent to Houston newspapers in 1970 about young Bush, then a second lieutenant and new pilot. "George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed," the news release said. "Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics."

Three decades later, a new book by Kitty Kelley has alleged that Bush used cocaine while he was a student at Yale University and later at Camp David while his father was president.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bush; tang
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1 posted on 09/17/2004 2:24:56 PM PDT by fidelio
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To: fidelio

Yawn.


2 posted on 09/17/2004 2:26:55 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: fidelio; Howlin; cyncooper

HAHAHAHAHA

The AP sued for more records and what did they get?

Records from the Air Guard written to George Herbert Bush telling him what a great kid he had.


3 posted on 09/17/2004 2:27:24 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: fidelio

Released from where. did I miss something while I was gone.


4 posted on 09/17/2004 2:28:37 PM PDT by marty60
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To: fidelio

And this is news - why?


5 posted on 09/17/2004 2:28:42 PM PDT by xcullen (DC Conservative)
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To: fidelio

This is.....it's.....stop the.....(bonk, snore).


6 posted on 09/17/2004 2:29:09 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: fidelio
The White House has said repeatedly that all of Bush's Guard records have been disclosed, only to be embarrassed when new documents have turned up.

Can this reporter explain why the WH would be "embarrassed" whenever new documents are found and released? There has been nothing damning of the president's service in the Texas ANG, and the White House is not the keeper of these records. Personnel records are theoretically contained in one central location, but in practice they could be scattered almost anywhere, if not destroyed for some innocent reason in years past.

7 posted on 09/17/2004 2:29:49 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: fidelio

Rope-a-dope


8 posted on 09/17/2004 2:29:49 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: xcullen

The Pentagon sued to get more documents released. I think this is part of what they got:

A packet of Texas Air National Guard records newly released Friday showed that the commanding officer of President Bush's basic training unit took a special interest in him as a trainee and wrote to his father to praise his son.


9 posted on 09/17/2004 2:30:00 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Howlin

Ping the hordes!


10 posted on 09/17/2004 2:30:43 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Dan would RATHER lie.)
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To: fidelio
In addition to the letter from Bush's father, the latest documents contain news releases that the Texas Air National Guard sent to Houston newspapers in 1970 about young Bush, then a second lieutenant and new pilot. "George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed," the news release said. "Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics."

These guys are desperate. These documents are certainly peripheral to GW's record at best. What's next, a review W's letters to Santa written during the 1950s???????
11 posted on 09/17/2004 2:30:46 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: fidelio

I think that it is noteworthy that the CO sends unsolicited praise about the new recuit. Also, notes in the record, waaay before kitty's book, indicating that narcotics were not part of the game at that time. If they were, perhaps they would not have been mentioned, but then, a positive letter would not have been entered into the file and local papers.


12 posted on 09/17/2004 2:31:40 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: TheGeezer

Could this be a last desparate act? I hope the Swifties' October suprise is enough to shut down everyone on the left.


13 posted on 09/17/2004 2:31:51 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Peach
A packet of Texas Air National Guard records newly released Friday showed that the commanding officer of President Bush's basic training unit took a special interest in him as a trainee and wrote to his father to praise his son.

Well that does it, I'm voting for Kerry.

14 posted on 09/17/2004 2:33:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: fidelio

Is this a joke? Why does the MSM think people have any interest in this Guard stuff? What's next, did Bush keep his shoes and brass shined?


15 posted on 09/17/2004 2:33:47 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("medals, ribbons, we threw away the symbols of what our country gave us and I'm proud of that")
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To: fidelio

When I was in ROTC, press releases were sent to everyone's local paper. It was a recruiting tool. My name was in my local paper 3-4 times. I was somewhat embarrassed, but my parents loved it!


16 posted on 09/17/2004 2:34:02 PM PDT by Screaming Eagle Red Leg
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To: fidelio

I'm sure the AP is going try and spin this negatively but I think this is a really cool tidbit of info. I can just picture GHWB saying stuff like that, can't you?


17 posted on 09/17/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: fidelio
Why would Bush 41 be surprised that Bush 43's superior took a special interest in his son? I was lead to believe they all were supposed to be watching out for young Bush with all this special treatment. CBiaS said it so it must be true. /S/
18 posted on 09/17/2004 2:34:43 PM PDT by BallyBill (Proud Lt. JG Evil Rove Corps V.R.W.C.)
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To: fidelio

"...took a special interest in him as a trainee and wrote to his father to praise his son."

Gosh, this seems to show the exact opposite of what's been alleged. No letter form GHWBush asking the brass to keep an eye on his son...just a letter from the brass to GHW bragging on the boy. No smoking gun...no silver bullet... not even a spitwad.


19 posted on 09/17/2004 2:34:52 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: Peach
Notice how Matt Kelly has to drag that gossip-monger, Kitty Kelly, into this story.

He segues from an article praising Bush as getting his high from flying, to scraping the bottom of the barrel with Kelly's scurrilous and unsourced accusations.

The AP has lost all integrity.

20 posted on 09/17/2004 2:35:15 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I heard that the traditionalists have taken over the FR religion forum"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: fidelio

""George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed," the news release said. "Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics."

Three decades later, a new book by Kitty Kelley has alleged that Bush used cocaine while he was a student at Yale University and later at Camp David while his father was president."

This is one heck of a hit piece. Going from that statement to Kelley's screed is one miserable piece of journalism. And, I'm going to write to let ol' Matt know.


21 posted on 09/17/2004 2:36:06 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

It is a stupid act, not a desparate act. It will not be the last one of those I can assure you.

The letter and response go to Bushs character and pride of a grateful father. The media and libs can try to make someting of this but it will go over as well as their contention that bush could not be in the Guard and Air Force at the same time.

Like I said, rope-a-dope


22 posted on 09/17/2004 2:36:49 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: ARCADIA
What's next, a review W's letters to Santa written during the 1950s???????

Only if he wanted some war toys, or cap guns or something violent, like Jarts.

"Mr. President, don't you know you could have put someone's EYE OUT?!?!?"

"Well, Dan..."

"ANSWER THE QUESTION!"

23 posted on 09/17/2004 2:37:09 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: Lancer_N3502A

any clues on what the october surprise might be?


24 posted on 09/17/2004 2:37:18 PM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: Peach

Not only that, but happy about the influence TANG had on his kid.


25 posted on 09/17/2004 2:37:50 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: spacejunkie
any clues on what the october surprise might be?

George Bush went through the express lane at the supermarket with more than 15 items in 1977.

26 posted on 09/17/2004 2:39:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: fidelio
"That a major general in the Air Force would take interest in a brand new Air Force trainee made a big impression on me."

Why that clinches it < /sarcasm>

Eventually it's going to dawn on people that if Dubya really wanted to use connections to escape service & danger he made lousy use of it going into the TANG for a six-year committment?

With all this clout why didn't he give a job for say six months as a journalist on a highly protected military base in Vietnam. Then he could claim to be a Vietnam vet if he was thinking about a political future?

Or why didn't he use his pull to get a job as a staff flunky in Washington or Europe or Japan? What kind of committment would that have been? Two years? I could be wrong.

The more I hear about Dubya the more I like the guy.

27 posted on 09/17/2004 2:39:07 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: sinkspur

I'd wager that the reason this garbage is trickling out like this is because these documents are not a part of Bush's official file.

Civil Service employees are probably scratching around for any scrap of paper with Lt Bush's name on it.


28 posted on 09/17/2004 2:39:19 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: fidelio
when Bush's critics say

Come on, Matt Kelley. Don't be coy. We know you're one of "Bush's critics".

The White House has said repeatedly that all of Bush's Guard records have been disclosed, only to be embarrassed when new documents have turned up.

What evidence is there that the WH is "embarrassed? Tsk tsk. Young Matt is making things up here, I'm afraid. That's a big "no no", as Mrs. Knox might say.

In addition to the letter from Bush's father, the latest documents contain news releases that the Texas Air National Guard sent to Houston newspapers in 1970 about young Bush, then a second lieutenant and new pilot. "George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed," the news release said. "Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics."

We've actually seen this article from the "Houston papers". In other words, nothing new was uncovered except they thought GWB was a great guy. (Oh, I know, "Bush's critics" will say they were just saying that).

Nothing new, but WAIT:

Three decades later, a new book by Kitty Kelley has alleged that Bush used cocaine while he was a student at Yale University and later at Camp David while his father was president.

Breathtaking. Matt Kelley (any relation to Kitty, Matt??) wants to be Dan Rather when he grows up.

29 posted on 09/17/2004 2:39:25 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: marty60

AP filed a FOIA suit against the military & a judge recently ruled that the military had to dig for records & turn everything they found to AP.


30 posted on 09/17/2004 2:39:51 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Tribune7
With all this clout why didn't he give a job for say six months as a journalist on a highly protected military base in Vietnam. Then he could claim to be a Vietnam vet if he was thinking about a political future? Or why didn't he use his pull to get a job as a staff flunky in Washington or Europe or Japan? What kind of committment would that have been? Two years? I could be wrong.

Or how about go to Nam, make up three phony wounds, and get shipped back home as a "war hero"?

31 posted on 09/17/2004 2:41:14 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: fidelio

I know AP intends this as an attack on President Bush, but I don't see anything bad about it. They are really reaching.


32 posted on 09/17/2004 2:42:16 PM PDT by ozzymandus ("So it is written, so it shall be danced"-Al Bundy)
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To: sinkspur

I was confused for a minute...I actually thought AP was a news wire service...silly me


33 posted on 09/17/2004 2:43:20 PM PDT by Dan45
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To: GoLightly

OK, trivia question: Anybody remember this phrase and where it's from:

"I'm high alright, but not on false drugs. I'm high on the real thing - powerful gasoline, a clean windshield and a shoe shine."


34 posted on 09/17/2004 2:43:37 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: colorado tanker
What's next, did Bush keep his shoes and brass shined?

Killian already stated that Bush's 35-10 (36-2903 now) was always above standards, which is one of the things his father admired about Bush, his professionalism. I know you are being tongue in cheek, but perhaps the MSM will read this thread and save the bandwidth in case they come across another favorable document that the Pentagon finds.

35 posted on 09/17/2004 2:44:37 PM PDT by Truth Table
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To: ambrose

I don't know if you need clout for that -- just a sociopathic tendancy.


36 posted on 09/17/2004 2:45:02 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: spacejunkie

None. Rumors persist from Kerry having gone to a head shrinker to a dishonorable/bad conduct discharge.

I'd love nothing more than to see that AND a Congressional investigation linking not only the DNC to Rather/Memo-gate but track it all the way back to Kerry.


37 posted on 09/17/2004 2:46:31 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: RobRoy

I hate to admit it around here, but I don't follow NASCAR. I dated a guy who did drag racing though, if that will allow me from hanging my head about it. lol

I'd assume that to be a quote from some driver.


38 posted on 09/17/2004 2:46:59 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly

Nope. The source has the word "crush" in it though. It is from the very early seventies.


39 posted on 09/17/2004 2:50:54 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: fidelio

Geeze! His father was an American pilot in WWII. Perhaps it's the liberal mind set but why can none of them seem to comprehend that Bush the Younger just might have admired and respected his father, Bush the Elder, so very much that he wanted to follow in those very large footsteps?


40 posted on 09/17/2004 2:53:00 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: RobRoy

I'm not sure if that's the exact quote or not, but didn't it come from the Firesign Theater?


41 posted on 09/17/2004 2:53:50 PM PDT by Boomer Geezer (God Bless ALL of our military and Vets -- past and present!)
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To: RobRoy

Pastor Rob Flash, Church of the Presumptuous Assumption of the Blinding Light


42 posted on 09/17/2004 2:54:32 PM PDT by Raven6
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To: fidelio
the latest documents contain news releases that the Texas Air National Guard sent to Houston newspapers in 1970 about young Bush, then a second lieutenant and new pilot.

There is nothing like a "newly released record" that is a news release from the 1970s. :-)
43 posted on 09/17/2004 2:55:08 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: fidelio
"The White House has said repeatedly that all of Bush's Guard records have been disclosed, only to be embarrassed when new documents have turned up."

This is the news. The fact that AP got anything means they can blame Bush. Bush signed the SF-180, unlike Kerry who did not but says he has given all his records up to on line posting. It is the Pentagon which hasn't produced all the records, not Bush.

The AP wants to say Bush hid something. That's what is going on. That's the story ... what is Bush hiding.

44 posted on 09/17/2004 2:55:35 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

16 - bingo - "When I was in ROTC, press releases were sent to everyone's local paper. It was a recruiting tool. My name was in my local paper 3-4 times. I was somewhat embarrassed, but my parents loved it!"

Me too, in the reserves and active duty during the war.


45 posted on 09/17/2004 2:56:16 PM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: fidelio
Yeah. So.

When I was just a punk enlisted Air Force E-1 in basic training, they took my picture and sent it along with a press release to my home town paper saying I graduated from basic.

That the general who'd just hired himself a new pilot trainee would send a letter to his dad is just, so..... SO WHAT?

46 posted on 09/17/2004 2:56:26 PM PDT by narby (Dan interviewed the "Bush was Selected Lady" (BwS Lady))
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To: Boomer Geezer

Yes, it is on the album "Don't Crush that Dwarf. Hand me the Pliers."

And it is an exact quote. I have all the old Firesign Theater and a lot of their new stuff downloaded from Kazaa. Many of them were obviously ripped from vinyl. 8^>

I put several albums as mp3 on a cd and listen to it through headphones sometimes as a sleeping aid in bed. I'm so familiar with the stuff it puts me right to sleep.


47 posted on 09/17/2004 2:56:42 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: ambrose

Bingo.

This is what concerns me. They released his file. Where are these documents being drawn from? Another's file? I'm not happy about this.

The newly released info does hurt the Libs. Specific commentary on how he wasn't striung up on drugs? Good officer? The NG had a positive efect on him? LOL!! Poor Libs. They desperately want to believe the worst of G.W. and keep being exposed to his best side.


48 posted on 09/17/2004 2:56:49 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: sinkspur
The AP has lost all integrity.

AP is a (C)BS wannabe. They'll make it soon.

49 posted on 09/17/2004 2:57:43 PM PDT by narby (Dan interviewed the "Bush was Selected Lady" (BwS Lady))
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To: spacejunkie
DNC SEPT - NOV Check off List to "Get Back the White House"

[ ] Question Bush's guard service
[ ] Drug abuse stories (cocaine)
[ ] Abortion rumor re: girlfriend (post on religious chat rooms)
[ ] Laura sold drugs
[ ] Homosexuality (post on religious chat rooms)
[ ] Anything we can get our hands on, we're so desperate now!

RESOURCES
[ ] Use Kitty Kelly Book
[ ] Use complicit CBS/Dan Rather
[ ] Use MSM
50 posted on 09/17/2004 2:58:20 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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