Skip to comments.FIRST SIGNS OF SUCCESS WITH 'THE PLAN'[Incredible Quote from Station Manager Cited]
Posted on 09/17/2004 2:26:48 PM PDT by Diago
FIRST SIGNS OFF SUCCESS WITH 'THE PLAN' [09/17 05:08 PM]
The Pajamahadeen are getting their first results. I am forwarded an email from one CBS affiliate general manager. I don't want this guy to get in trouble, so I'll just say he's from a city of about 150,000 in the midwest.
You are one in a line of many who have written with concerns and Im responding to all of them. I must say I am disappointed, however, at your last statement that you would indeed throw out any integrity that [this station]has strived to build with this incident. Of course we would not and WILL not stand by the network or Dan Rather. This is an embarrassment. If you think you are disappointed, you should be a station that has played a part in making CBS Americas most watched network. You should be in my shoes knowing that we actually pay for some of their services.
All I can say is that you are right. For what it is worth, a directive went out from my office that no more promos containing Dan Rather are to air on [this station], nor is the network tease during the 5:00 newscast to air. That promotes stories on the CBS Evening News. It will not run.
We can only express our grave disappointment and consider preemption of CBS PrimeTime programming. Believe me, our affiliate reps both regionally and nationally are listening to our concerns and in my heart I believe action against Dan Rather on the part of the network is not far away.
I was embarrassed by the 60 Minutes program Wednesday night. We would NOT have approved running the story nor would we have ignored expert. Dan violated a rule from Journalism 101 and that is to never, yourself, become the focus of the story.
I would ask you stand WITH [this station] and not abandon us. It is during this time that we must all stand firm in our beliefs.
It sounds like this guy gets it. Now the Pajamahadeen has to get as many affiliate station managers and programming directors to join him as possible.
By the way, one line in that e-mail is worth repeating: "Our affiliate reps both regionally and nationally are listening to our concerns and in my heart I believe action against Dan Rather on the part of the network is not far away."
It is working. Call my guy next.
If we focus on a few affiliates we can realy send them a wake up call. So everyone e-mail or call Cleveland!!!
E-mail our Cleveland CBS affiliate station manager at
Call the Cleveland CBS affiliate at:
Phone #: (216) 771-1943 or (800) 929-0132 Fax #: (216) 515-7152
I sent my email to the Hartford, CT station. C'mon everyone - go go go go go!!
Chicago FReepers need to start contacting WBBM. Their radio affiliate, too.
Like "rathergate", it's much easier to believe a memo if you know its' provenance.
This one came from "a city of 150,000 in the Midwest," eh?
I hope you'll understand my skepticism.
The Republican talking points for the past day-and-a-half has been: Rather needs to be fired. Some couch it within the context of CBS's credibility, but the bottom line is the same. They want to end Rather's career. "Here's how we play hardball in Texas," etc. To do so would send a chill down the spin of any investigative reporter that came sniffing around the administration in the future. A clear attempt to quiet the so-called free press.
[Yet another rightwing plot to keep progressive reporters from using honest "forgery" to attack the fascists!!!]
I wish Rather would do a story on the kangaroo court he's being subjected to.
["This is Dan Rather reporting and tonight I am doing a special story about the rightwing cabal attacking me for merely using forged documents. COURAGE!"]
If firing a newsperson gives a news organization credibility ... Faux News would have to fire their entire organization.
[I say FIRE everybody at FOX News and replace them with experienced forgers!]
Rather will fight and win. Let them waste their time and energy. He is the top journalist and doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass.
[Dan already has your head up his ass.]
Look. Rather could clear all this up in five minutes. He could: 1) provide the original document and have it examined by a panel of neutral experts or 2) At least provide a generalized description of the source. ("Sources close to ____________") would suffice nicely. This method is used all the time to provide information without divulging the identify of the source, yet for some reason, CBS won't even do that.
[What? Do I detect a slight bit of rationality on this DUmmie Board? I say BAN this poster!!!]
Well, since Rather and CBS seem to be the last hold-out of "fair and balanced", it's no wonder that the conservatives are screaming for action. I STILL think that CBS was set up. And it smells like Rove to me.
[Absolutely! Karl Rove secretly flew to Austin, TX in an SR=71 spy plane. Then he faxed forged documents to CBS from the local Kinkos and flew back to Washington without anybody knowing he was gone. Devious. Sneaky. A typical ROVIAN plot!!!]
I wrote a letter of support to Dan Rather and recieved a nice responce from CBS: Thank you for taking the time to write. Your support is appreciated. As you can imagine, we've been inundated with negative emails. It's refreshing to hear from a viewer such as yourself. We strive for the highest level of journalistic integrity and will continue to do so, no matter what the cost. A free society demands free, unmuzzled media expression. Selena, CBS Evening News
["Thank you for taking the time to write. Your blind support is appreciated. As you can imagine we've been inundated with negative e-mails from rightwing fascists. It is refreshing to to hear from a clueless viewer such as yourself. We strive for the highest level of journalistic forgery and will continue to do so, no matter what the cost to our veracity. A free society demands free unmuzzled media forgery. Dan R.---SeeBS Evening News."]
Dan Rather knows who Karl Rove is. The biggest weakness with a person like Rove is that they always assume everyone else is an idiot. I wonder if Karl isn't the fly in the web this time, too.
[And Dan Rather probably knows that Karl Rove is the evil genius behind Global Warming. Our Danny Boy is on to all the devious Rovian plots. There's no fooling him!]
Rather is going to raise the ratings on 60MIN 11. And he couldn't find a better way as far as I am concerned.
[That was a genius idea of Rather to use forged documents to boost his ratings. Way to go, Dan!]
Maybe it's because I've watched a poker tournament, but I think Dan Rather is playing a little "Texas Hold 'Em" with everyone. In the face of all the controversy with the documents, he's been suspiciously calm. I don't believe he's dealt his trump cards yet. Either he CAN prove that the docs are genuine, or he can prove that someone tried to set him up. Or maybe he has additional evidence that will definitively seal Bush's fate.
[Or maybe he is waiting to prove that the Hitler Diaries are real or...or maybe Dan Rather is just waiting for you to pull your head out of his butt.]
The Pajamahadeen .... LOL I love that.
The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!
What kind of trouble? Sounds like he's a stand-up kinda guy, so tell us what station.
Keep going, Pajamahadeen...we can take down Dan Rather and the DNC. It's going to end up on the doorstep of Brother Terry McAuliffe - mark my words. This was the opening battle in Operation Fortunate Son, an orchestrated campaign to bring down GWB and install the clinton cabal with Monsieur Kerry (VietNam Hero) as its figurehead.
Well, I say to them "Nuts."
I called my local Atlanta affiliate WGCL last week. They stated that they respected Rather and supported him and his story. Click.
I have written a letter to the FCC and cc'd WGCL for their relicensing file.
The story cited above isfrom Jim Geraty at the National Review online blog:
Give him a second chance.
I called the local TV affiliate on Monday, and sent an e-mail to the talk radio affiliate yesterday.
Both are still carrying CBS News material, i.e., status quo.
Portland, Maine market. WGAN (Radio: 560 AM), WGME (television: 13)
"If you see the eye, you know it's a lie."
Who is it?
Why not post his name and Station?
I think it all needs to come out, people, stations.....every body associated .
CBS affiliate in Green Bay Wi. Please email. Station manager was very receptive, feeling very frustrated with Network
Solicited emails so he can bundle them up and sent them off.
EMAIL HIM BACK! TELL HIM TO BRACKET CBS EVENING NEWS AND 60 MINUTES WITH ONE OF THOSE "ANY VIEWS OR OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THE FOLLOWING/PRECEDING" DISLCAIMERS!!!! I'm pretty sure he can legally do this and still stay in his CBS contract!
KEEP THE PRESSURE ON, DON'T GIVE IN.
The story cited above is from Jim Geraty at the National Review online blog:
The news manager of our local news/talk radio station came on the air today to announce that the station's management is reconsidering their affiliation with the CBS radio network. From the sounds of it, they will not continue as a CBS affiliate once their current agreement expires.
God Bless you Diago, and may God bless all Freeps!!!
This particular DUmmie seems a little weak on the concept of a spider-web and its function.
Their data is bad, and their metaphors are collapsing around their pointed heads.
Pity the DUmmies, just this once.
Pajamahadeen? Is this the first time this has been used. I'm not sure I like it. It makes us sound like a bunch of extremist terrorists.
Thank you for being on our side God.
Good question. It was the first time I had seen it.
Dan Rather does the CBS radio news at the 4 pm hour, and the station manager decided not to run the Rather newscast until this is resolved, replacing it with a Fox news segment instead.
Today, at 4, they goofed. The news began and it was Dan Rather starting the report with something about Ivan. It ran for about 6 or 7 seconds, and I was in shock. But the host busts in yelling "Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! We FIRED that guy!!!" He made the studio engineer pot it down and told her to get Fox News up instead, which she did.
It was great, because essentially it keeps the story very much alive in Houston, and this station has effectively fired Dan Rather twice in three days. LOL.
That is outstanding. Who could ask for anything more?
Good for your Houston station. Perhaps the third time will be the charm.
I don't like it, either, for the same reason. It's a funny term because the pajama comment made earlier, but it's too easily envisioned by the general public as a very negative thing. I'll never use it.
Wow! Ditto that!
We should be calling the mainstream media the oldmediahadeen. They're the extremists shilling for the DNC, trashing truth, engaging in forgeries, trying to bring down America. Death to the oldmediahadeen!
The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!
The Pajamahadeen .... May the Force be with you!
The guy who wrote "Bias" (forget name, Bernie ... ???) an ex CBS reporter, said recently that CBS should have at least given some information about the source of the documents. You can tell general information like "a White House Source", or "A disgruntled Guard Member", or "Campaign Worker", at least something to identify where the source is coming from.
(C)BS didn't do that in any way. They just said "we've obtained a memo".
Our guy here said "it came from a city of 150,000 in the Midwest". That's the provenance.
If you want to say he forged the e-mail. Great. But at least he's got more information than (C)BS has.
BINGO! That is the correct response. Now tell their advertisers you are boycotting them (and make sure WGCL knows it too). They need to be hurt before they will do the right thing. They will ignore threats and warnings and just hope this will blow over in time.
HAHAHAHA And, now he thinks he's an expert in "holding".
How could someone be so stupid and still know how to breathe?
It must be why breathing is reflexive and not a learned activity.
It just keeps getting better.
Forward that redacted email to cBS.
ADMIN MOD: could you please add Pajamahadeen to the OK spell check list...thanks
Liberal mind tricks won't work on me ..... I detect a fraud in the force, is CBS news on TV right now?
I wrote a similar letter to WWJ Radio in Detroit, a CBS affiliate radio station. Rather does the newscast often. I asked them to cancel their affiliation with CBS until Rather was fired.
The response was short and rather odd, but interesting.
The ! was part of their response. Exclamation points are not a normal part of most business correspondence, so it made me think that Danny's days are numbered.
Zero would be a good number.
....The local affiliates have no control over the networks. [Our station] is packed full of good, hard working, community minded and dedicated broadcast professionals. They shouldnt be judged or penalized because of a decision made in New York by people theyve never met and probably never will. But, thats just my opinion....
The statement above is straight out of the disaster plan.It is almost exactly what my Tennessee Manager from WJHL told me.
It is cowardice. They don't want to face the issue. They are afraid to confront CBS. They are afraid to not broadcast CBS News and do battle over contract terms in court.
Their "dedicated broadcast professionals" are guilty by assocation.
We have our new name!
Yep - I have a feeling this one's gonna stick!
Send them this in your letter about why the CBS NEWs Division has failed its afilliates.It failed to follow its own rules in the CBS NEWS STANDARDS.
Page 37B headed "Standards and Procedures," which says, in part: "Anonymous sources should be used only when it is determined (1) that there is no other practicable way to obtain and report the information; (2) that the information is factual and of sufficient newsworthiness to warrant its use despite the fact that we cannot disclose its source; and (3) that the source and his information are highly reliable in the particular instance."
There is more, including this: "Where the use of an anonymous source is necessary, as much information as possible about the nature [underlined] of the source should be provided to the audience, assuming, of course, that this information would not lead to disclosure of the source. Where the source may have a vested interest in the matter to be reported, it is especially important that information be provided as to the nature and/or motivation of the source."