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China's Economic War - Stealing Jobs and Technology From America
NewsMax ^ | Sept. 14, 2004 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 09/18/2004 6:10:53 AM PDT by traumer

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1 posted on 09/18/2004 6:10:54 AM PDT by traumer
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I shudder at the thought of how many Chinese Enrons and Worldcoms there must be. Thieves are also liars.


2 posted on 09/18/2004 6:18:55 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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I have a lot of problems feeling any sympathy for US companies who have their technology stolen by China after they have moved their plants there. I say its poetic justice and to bring back the jobs to the US.


3 posted on 09/18/2004 6:24:01 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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Isn't it funny how the whole rationale for Nixon was access to the China market. And what has actually happenned is that China gained access to the America market.


4 posted on 09/18/2004 6:25:27 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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The only problem is that these companies are exporting technology the Chinese can't produce because of their backward totalitarian sytem; and we give them military advantages they don't have the social evolution to handle.


5 posted on 09/18/2004 6:25:49 AM PDT by briant
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The question is, why is America letting China import cars in here. This will destroy GM, Ford and Chrysler.
I wouldn't allow one Chinese car in here.


6 posted on 09/18/2004 6:32:23 AM PDT by Lori675
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The Chinese Govt. are Lying Godless atheistic Murderers!

This is typical Business in China..Sucker American and other Companies to come into China under some fraudulant
Business deal, and then steal the technology and produce the items in a totaly Communist owned Factory using slave lobor and undercutting the competition. I am Laughing at the Stupid leaders of General Motors for being so gullible
to think these Godless Athiests have any Moral fiber. They are Devoid of Truth and Contracts are meaningless.
WAKE UP!!!! WAKE UP!!!! America..The Chinese Communist Govt. is waging Economic War with Us. Stop buying their Cheap crap that is flooding our stores!!!! it is everywhere
or havent you noticed? Boycott China! STOP sending our money to a Godless Murdering Govt. You are only killing your jobs here!


7 posted on 09/18/2004 6:39:00 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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Yes --- the Chinese aren't stealing the technology, they're being handed it on a silver platter, along with a whole lot else. When the greedy American companies go belly up --- so what? They didn't provide Americans any jobs --- why should anyone care?


8 posted on 09/18/2004 6:43:54 AM PDT by FITZ
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How is it...
"sleep with dogs and you'll end up with flees" ?


9 posted on 09/18/2004 6:53:06 AM PDT by traumer
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Chinese Chery - is that the Chinese version of Cherorlets?

The similarity of design of the two vehicles is "purely coincidental" you understand. Similar problems (producing a motor car) produce similar solutions. In fact, there is a situation where a Japanese manufacturer (Mazda) builds vehicles that very much resemble those of an American manufacturer (Ford). Again, just sheer coincidence.


10 posted on 09/18/2004 7:05:44 AM PDT by alloysteel
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Well since Ford has a huge stake in Mazda(40 per cent I think), they share technologies....just like Ford has an arrangement with KIA as well!


11 posted on 09/18/2004 7:10:14 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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GM Japan's Spark minicar Chinese Chery QQ
12 posted on 09/18/2004 7:14:13 AM PDT by traumer
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I'm more concerned about the technology than the jobs. It's easy to make more jobs. Technology requires a little luck.


13 posted on 09/18/2004 7:39:17 AM PDT by Brilliant
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I have a lot of problems feeling any sympathy for US companies who have their technology stolen by China after they have moved their plants there. I say its poetic justice and to bring back the jobs to the US.

American CEOs send US technology and trade secrets to China. Short term, they get cheaper suppliers, thus boosting profits (and CEO stock option value). Long term, the Chinese steal the trade secrets and the company suffers

But, guess what? CEO's, on average, are with a company for less than 5 years before moving on. By the time the bad stuff happens, they've already pocketed their money and are elsewhere, or retired

The China gambit is a scheme by CEOs to loot their own companies, and America's future

14 posted on 09/18/2004 7:46:49 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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Yes --- it's amazing ---we turn over our economy -- the best part -- the manufacturing over to a Communist dictatorship and we think they're going to be nice and fair. Why would they be? They don't believe in things like Capitalism, freedom, competition. Communism doesn't lead to inventiveness --- what else would we think they were going to do?


15 posted on 09/18/2004 7:47:37 AM PDT by FITZ
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I am concerned about jobs too.
My point is that US companies have to learn (=get burned) before the outsourcing trend can possibly change....


16 posted on 09/18/2004 7:49:05 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Brilliant
It's easy to make more jobs. Technology requires a little luck.

The two go hand in hand. Out of work American engineers will find other work to do --- many are working in other fields now, some have become Walmart greeters but while they're doing those other jobs, they don't have time to develop technology.

17 posted on 09/18/2004 7:50:12 AM PDT by FITZ
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Isn't it funny how the whole rationale for Nixon was access to the China market. And what has actually happened is that China gained access to the America market.

Agreed. We would be far better off if we had left China to be a third world country. All we did was create a future threat both economically and militarily.

That's really all I need to know about GLOBALIZATION. The Free Traitors need to realize that this makes our nation less secure.

18 posted on 09/18/2004 7:51:09 AM PDT by boycott
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I shudder at the thought of how many Chinese Enrons and Worldcoms there must be.

Westinghouse nuclear plant design OK'd (for China, not U.S.A.)

19 posted on 09/18/2004 9:25:18 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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American CEOs send US technology and trade secrets to China. Short term, they get cheaper suppliers, thus boosting profits (and CEO stock option value). Long term, the Chinese steal the trade secrets and the company suffers

They are also sending research and development.

20 posted on 09/18/2004 9:39:14 AM PDT by snowsislander
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