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FOR THE RECORD: CBS Memos Controversy on Free Republic
Free Republic ^ | September 18, 2004

Posted on 09/18/2004 3:26:50 PM PDT by Howlin

In the interest of the historical importance of things that happened on this forum last week and, most importantly, to try to provide and document an accurate record of exactly what happened here on the evening of September 8, 2004, and the following morning, I have compiled a listing of ALL of the postings that occurred on Free Republic concerning CBS and Dan Rather 60 Minutes show from 8:00 PM EDT on Thurdsay, September 8, 2004, up until about 9:00 AM EDT on the morning of Friday, September 9, 2004, when the rest of the internet "caught up."

I am posting this thread for two reason.

First, to document the facts as we all know them to be -- and to try to put to rest the dubious claims that have been made concerning exactly how this all came about and exactly who "brought" it about.

Perhaps I am doing this to try to set the record straight, so as no one else will believe we are anything other than who we are: a bunch of really cool people (in Freeperware) from all across this country and from all walks of life with a passion for this country and for the truth who are lucky enough to know a man like Jim Robinson who decided to make this his life's work and give us all a place to rant/vent/question/opine/whine/relish the events that go on about us.

And, secondly, to remind everybody that even though Buckhead, TankerKC, and myself are the names mentioned in the blogs and articles concerning that night, it was, as it always is here on Free Republic, many, many posters; numerous questions were raised BEFORE the famous post #47.

And if I might add this: in my humble opinion, it was Free Republic at its best; I'm proud to be among you.


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To: Howlin
Thanks for this historical time line and the names of the participants in discovering the CBS hoax. I'm proud of FreeRepublic and all involved. Special thanks to Jim Robinson for providing this site and the heavy lifters... TankerKC, Buckhead, and You. I'm thrilled that I was there when it unfolded. :o)

Note to MSM researchers: Here is the true story of how it was "done" in hours, not the 5 years CBS took to concock the "story."

51 posted on 09/18/2004 4:26:18 PM PDT by Carolinamom (FR Truth Squad 24/7)
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To: Howlin

If you guys are part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy could you get me in? :-)


52 posted on 09/18/2004 4:28:44 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Howlin
Thank you.

Booked for historic reference. I truly believe that what has happened with these documents, how and how quickly they were exposed will be taught in journalism classes long into the future. Interestingly enough, CBS seems to be – inadvertently – assuring the story will not go away soon.

And you are correct it was (is) Free Republic at its best.

53 posted on 09/18/2004 4:29:32 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Howlin

This is a saver. Thanks, Howlin.


54 posted on 09/18/2004 4:31:22 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: Howlin

EXCELLENT!!!

Thank you for putting this together ...

Hint to the MSM if you're lurking .. it wasn't just the fonts that tipped Freepers off that they were fake


55 posted on 09/18/2004 4:32:04 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Howlin; TankerKC; Buckhead

There sure were alot of people on that thread contributing.
Too bad the MSM didn't take the time to research all that happened. Once again, they glossed over everything and everyone except that which they were looking for...to nail Buckhead.

You guys are awesome. Everyone here is awesome. Proud to hang out here with such a group of talented, intelligent people (who also have a sense of humor!)

It's been quite a week...and as I said before, I got nothing done around here!

We're in our pajamas all the time but we never sleep!


56 posted on 09/18/2004 4:32:47 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: valleygal

I think I took naps only for days!...FR ROCKS!


57 posted on 09/18/2004 4:35:32 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: occutegirl

You're here; you're in. Tell all your friends.


58 posted on 09/18/2004 4:39:18 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin
Bump! Excellent work and you are right about all of us working together. And, luckily, you, Buckhead, and TankerKC were really "tuned in" and acute that night. If it was another night, it might have slipped passed you guys. But, we are, if nothing else, vigilent.

EAGLES UP!

59 posted on 09/18/2004 4:52:40 PM PDT by mattdono (Chris Matthew is Zell Miller's b*tch! (and the MSM is FR's b*tch!))
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To: Howlin

Thank you....from a proud, Midwestern WHACKO-O!!! Bookmarked, in all its glory, for posterity!!!!!!

BUSH/CHENEY 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


60 posted on 09/18/2004 4:54:01 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: Howlin

Good job, Howlin.
Bookmarked.


61 posted on 09/18/2004 4:56:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Howlin

Bump! I always thought it strange that the MSM has focussed on one guy. With FR it's never just "one guy." Even before I had read the thread in particular I knew that.


62 posted on 09/18/2004 5:08:05 PM PDT by stands2reason (Limousine Liberal--a man who has his cake, eats his cake, and complains that other people have cake.)
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To: Howlin
Excellent! I'm glad you were the one to do this, Howlin. You and all the others participating that night deserve mega-accolades! As it turned out, my earlier fears that FR wouldn't get the credit were definitely unfounded, weren't they? LOL! But even so, this thread was greatly needed to ensure an accurate history and to officially document and summarize FR's role in taking down Dan Blather and SeeBS.

IMHO, someone needs to make sure this gets done every single time FR does something like this in the future. < climbing up on soapbox again... > Otherwise, the MSM will continue to distort the image of bloggers & FReepers (a.k.a. "those pesky, pajama-clad, piss-ant people). The MSM hasn't admitted it yet, but their maniacal, obsessive control over the "news" and what the sheeple know is officially over. They are toast and I'm so thankful I'm alive to see it. (Does this mean I have to change my name again? ;-)

Anyway, fantastic job with this thread and with everything that you, Buckhead, TankerKC, A Citizen Reporter, et al did to expose SeeBS as the frauds they are.

As mattdono said above, EAGLES UP!

63 posted on 09/18/2004 5:31:38 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: stands2reason
I always thought it strange that the MSM has focussed on one guy. With FR it's never just "one guy."

They know that.

The exposure of Buckhead is an attempt to silence the Pajama People through the threat of public exposure.

64 posted on 09/18/2004 5:34:07 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Howlin

bttt


65 posted on 09/18/2004 5:36:39 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for putting this together. It puts the lie to the theory that the deconstruction of the forgeries was the work of an "RNC operative".

The proportional fonts are the initial tip off, as anyone who used a typewriter before the era of word processing can instantly see.

Let them spin their paranoid fantasies, whether they really believe them or not. It brands them with the "mark of the tinfoil hat".
66 posted on 09/18/2004 5:48:12 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Edward R. Murrow, call your office.)
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To: Howlin

Thanks Howlin! It was something, to watch all of this unfold.What an intelligent group of people we have here at FR.


67 posted on 09/18/2004 5:56:50 PM PDT by tapatio (Society is always taken by surprise at any new example of common sense.)
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To: Howlin

I second that emotion! I have been bragging to people for a few years about FR...can't tell you how many times in the last week I have heard people say "So THAT'S Free Republic"!

Proud to be among you and gald y'all have my back....


68 posted on 09/18/2004 6:18:36 PM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Vote Catholic Not Kerry)
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To: Howlin; Buckhead; TankerKC; mhking; rdb3; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; ..

massive "bookmark this thread" ping


69 posted on 09/18/2004 6:18:43 PM PDT by King Prout (civilization is a veneereal disease)
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To: King Prout; Howlin; yall
And if I might add this: in my humble opinion, it was
Free Republic at its best; I'm proud to be among you.

Dittos from Texas, Howlin! :^D


70 posted on 09/18/2004 6:23:09 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Howlin; TankerKC; Buckhead

Excellent. Bookmarking. Hat's off to you all.


71 posted on 09/18/2004 6:24:24 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Howlin

Proud of you guys-bump


72 posted on 09/18/2004 6:26:02 PM PDT by JPJones ("We'll cross all our tee's and dot all our.....lower case j's")
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To: Howlin
And if I might add this: in my humble opinion, it was Free Republic at its best; I'm proud to be among you.

I will second that! (but you know you are one of my heroettes! :-) )

73 posted on 09/18/2004 6:27:24 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: MeekOneGOP; Howlin; Buckhead; Travis McGee

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1219326/posts?page=1

here's the next round of pyjama-warriors beating up the old media, with TMG on point.


74 posted on 09/18/2004 6:30:22 PM PDT by King Prout (civilization is a veneereal disease)
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To: Howlin; Buckhead; TankerKC; mhking; rdb3; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; ..

travis wins round two of the new war against the old media

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1219326/posts?page=1


75 posted on 09/18/2004 6:32:42 PM PDT by King Prout (civilization is a veneereal disease)
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To: Howlin; Jim Robinson; ActiveDutyUSMC; dakine; bkwells; chookter; Hacksaw434; thumperusn; Hostel; ...
Free Republic Historical PING!

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76 posted on 09/18/2004 6:36:49 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: Howlin; All

You have done us proud.
You have ALL done us proud.

Thank you.


77 posted on 09/18/2004 6:39:02 PM PDT by Darksheare (Freedom is worth ALL of our lives if it frees even ONE person.)
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To: Howlin

Bumping, Bookmarking and grinning, ear to ear!

Howlin, you did A GREAT THING HERE!!!!!!


78 posted on 09/18/2004 6:39:22 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Will the REAL buckhead please stand up?)
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To: Howlin

salute!


79 posted on 09/18/2004 6:40:06 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Howlin
a hearty well done to all!!!

What's the Frequency Kenneth??? 47 !!!

80 posted on 09/18/2004 6:44:09 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump


81 posted on 09/18/2004 6:45:47 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte. ~)
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To: Howlin

Nice work Howlin! Bump to you and THANK YOU!


82 posted on 09/18/2004 6:48:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Howlin

Too bad we weren't here for GWHB. Woulda made a big difference.


83 posted on 09/18/2004 6:54:53 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Howlin

Great job! Thank you.


84 posted on 09/18/2004 6:58:04 PM PDT by Temple Owl (19064)
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To: King Prout
That's nothin'! Over at Dispeptic Ungulates they've outed Buckhead as a republican!
85 posted on 09/18/2004 6:58:48 PM PDT by OSHA (Don't call them forgeries. Dan wants to be the one to break that news.)
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To: Howlin

I enjoyed reading this thread. Thanks for making that possible.


86 posted on 09/18/2004 7:01:30 PM PDT by syriacus (CBS: You should have replaced Walter Cronkite with ROGER MUDD.)
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To: Howlin
You are terrific and so are your sentiments about the Free Republic. This forum is informative, entertaining and thought-provoking. As importantly, it is civic consciousness-raising in a way most of us had not experienced in such a rich way until the advent of the Free Republic.

Slowly but surely the Free Republic is causing people to stand up and take notice. With the passing of the MSM's stranglehold on shaping the national debate, we become a stronger, more accountable nation.

Thank you for your contributions.

87 posted on 09/18/2004 7:02:06 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: Howlin

Not bad for a chat room.

PS....I'm in my jammies.


88 posted on 09/18/2004 7:02:08 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: OSHA

ooooo! can't slip NOTHIN' past them DUmmy-type pampers-clad sloothes!


89 posted on 09/18/2004 7:02:27 PM PDT by King Prout (civilization is a veneereal disease)
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To: Howlin

Thank you for the great effort putting this together. I, too, am proud of being a member of FR, where intelligent people get their news.


90 posted on 09/18/2004 7:04:13 PM PDT by zip ((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans))
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To: King Prout
Unbelievable! A child can tell they are a fraud comparing an authentic pentagon document signed by the real Jerry Killian and the fraud CBS has perpetuated!! There is no way even a novice could be fooled! Dan Rather is a perpetrator! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/daily/graphics/guard_091404.html
91 posted on 09/18/2004 7:05:40 PM PDT by Blast_Master
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To: Howlin

Thanks for posting this, Sweetie!


92 posted on 09/18/2004 7:06:16 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Proud to be associated with pajama wearing news gatherers)
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To: Howlin

Thanks Howlin,this REALLY needed to be done for posterity.As always,YOU are THE Queen of the "live thread" and now,compilation. :-)


93 posted on 09/18/2004 7:06:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Howlin

Just wondering. Have you been outed by the press as a conservative yet?


94 posted on 09/18/2004 7:08:02 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: King Prout

Thanks for the ping! :-)


95 posted on 09/18/2004 7:08:46 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: OSHA
Oh my goodness....Buckhead is a (gasp) REPUBLICAN? Who woulda thunk it? LOL
96 posted on 09/18/2004 7:13:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Shocked....Shocked I am. LOL


97 posted on 09/18/2004 7:15:37 PM PDT by OSHA (Don't call them forgeries. Dan wants to be the one to break that news.)
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To: OSHA
Oh me,oh my,I wonder what it all means. I'm a REPUBLICAN (gasp) too. :-)
98 posted on 09/18/2004 7:17:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Howlin
Hey, I'd forgotten about that pacocat character on here that night.

He did make one last post the next day, (look at the irony in this:)

"Posted by pacocat to eno_
On News/Activism 09/09/2004 9:52:17 AM CDT · 100 of 265

Last night, on 60 Minutes, Bartlett wasn't questioning the authenticity of the material--he was debating what it meant.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/60II/main641984.shtml

It's over 12 hours since this story broke and no one from the White House or the campaign has questioned the veracity of these documents. The segment was taped ven before that. You think the White House can't verify a document that fast?

I bring this point up because I think there might be a better use of time---actually addressing what the memos say."

Since that post, there has been no sign of the pacocat, 'round these parts!

99 posted on 09/18/2004 7:22:18 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Howlin

Good Job pulling all reference material together.


100 posted on 09/18/2004 7:28:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What did Kerry know and when did he know it?)
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