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In Rush to Air, CBS Quashed Memo Worries
Washington Post ^ | 09/20/2004 | Howard Kurtz, Michael Dobbs

Posted on 09/18/2004 7:27:43 PM PDT by jhouston

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To: counterpunch

Dan Rather and Ben Barnes go back a long ways. They just didn't suddenly meet each other on the phone 3 weeks ago.


261 posted on 09/19/2004 2:43:20 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Mo1
Don't forget, early the next morning, Tom Harkin was all over the CBS story and attacking the President about these documents

It's no coincidence every key player on the higher escheleon on the left had the same talking points at the same time.

262 posted on 09/19/2004 2:48:02 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Reminds me of Clinton after he was caught lying about illegal campaign contributions.

Yeah, this whole CBS thing has been very "Clintonesque."

263 posted on 09/19/2004 4:16:30 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

O'Reilly: If you forge documents are you a forger?
Rather: Well, no I wouldn't go that far Bill.
O'Reilly: (incredously) If you forge documents your not a forger?!? Really?
Rather: Some people might make a mistake and forge them once or twice, but I wouldn't give them that label, no.
O'Reilly: But these documents were forged with the intent to bring down a sitting President in a time of war.
Rather: I'd like to break that story if it's true.
O'Reilly: If they turn out to be forged you wouldn't label the person who forged them a forger? Or at least a criminal?
Rather: No, Bill I wouldn't. I mean, you have to look at the seriousness of these allegations. There are questions that need to be answered. The criminal here may turn out to be Bush.
O'Reilly: (punches Rather)


264 posted on 09/19/2004 5:25:28 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
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To: CurlyDave
If this had been a national security issue, it may have been possible.

This was a political issue and if our President had used government resources to comment on it he would have been guilty of converting government money for his own personal use.

During the Watergate scandal and Clinton administration, the use of government resources for political aims was exactly what happened. The MSM has been conditioned to expect that "everyone does it". However, that's a false assumption.

265 posted on 09/19/2004 6:17:13 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jhouston
Howard said he believed some of the outsiders' questions about superscript and proportionate spacing were "kind of silly."

Ask a silly question--get a silly answer...

266 posted on 09/19/2004 7:24:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Bonnie, Charley, Frances, Ivan...painting curtains on the boarded windows)
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To: jhouston

With reference to your "Of course Howie had to get in a dig in the last couple of sentences. Has to repeat the "but the story is true"
line." That is standard Washington Post policy, closing a story in such a fashion as to let the writer tell his/her customary liberal reader that the writer doesn't support any conservative position on any matter being written about.


267 posted on 09/19/2004 8:14:04 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: VRWCTexan

Agreed, partially: Burkett seems implicated but may not be exclusively responsible for the forgeries. However, as an Army, not an Air Force, officer, he'd miss exactly the same abbreviation-differences that appear in the memos.


268 posted on 09/19/2004 11:10:07 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: counterpunch

Barnes saw or KNEW of the documents' existence. If this was all part of a master plan (60 Mins. covering Barnes and documents, Kitty Kelly's Book, Dems' new ad on Bush cop-out, attacks by Senate & House Dems all as prelude to MSM-debates), why would Barnes doubt his instructions from Kerry Camp or DNC?


269 posted on 09/19/2004 11:14:23 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: CurlyDave
I don't think the intellectual power and speed of the internet has been recognized by anyone but daily participants in the phenomenon.

I agree with you. The net has become the national "Town Hall", as well as "Truth Squad" of sorts. It's what the Founding Fathers meant by the 1st. Amendment, not the constriction of information as practiced by the MSM.

The MSM is dead. Long live the MSM.

270 posted on 09/19/2004 11:28:47 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: FactsNotHearsayPlease

Even based on the Post's rather generous treatment of 60 Minutes staff's incompetency, the complicity of CBS in a fraud appears even MORE LIKELY. They raced to this conclusion eyeswideshut for no reason other than that they trusted the "vetting" process to the countless "HEADS" running Kerry's campaign. How else could a journalist defend a forgery by defending the "truth" it meant to convey? By appealing to the public to PROVE US WRONG on this rumor about Bush's truncated service? We passed Wonderland about four exits back.


271 posted on 09/19/2004 11:36:17 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: okie01

And possibly the same source who recommended ignoring the family of the dead memo-writer who kept his personal files in a safety deposit box to which only Democrats had the key.


272 posted on 09/19/2004 11:40:58 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: bitt

Honesty's awfully underrated.


273 posted on 09/19/2004 11:44:14 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: okie01

Would YOU trust Cleland with ANY job--much less a "secret" job?


274 posted on 09/19/2004 11:49:43 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: hobson

I'm sure the word "forgery" has some obscure legal meaning that doesn't apply to fake documents cited in news stories. So Burkett may not be guilty of forgery.


275 posted on 09/19/2004 11:54:58 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: NautiNurse
Howard said he believed some of the outsiders' questions about superscript and proportionate spacing were "kind of silly."

Now all he needs is a few certified document experts that agree with him.

276 posted on 09/19/2004 11:57:11 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: counterpunch
During the Republican National Convention in New York, Rather got a call from Ben Barnes, a onetime Texas lieutenant governor and veteran Democrat who has known the anchor, a former Houston TV reporter, for 30 years. Barnes said he was ready to say before the cameras that he had pulled strings to get Bush a coveted slot in the Texas Guard in 1968.

English Translation: Barnes said that the Kerry campaign was frantic over Kerry's plumeting poll numbers and had decided that they could not wait until October for CBS to release their October Surprise.

277 posted on 09/19/2004 12:14:57 PM PDT by kennedy
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To: Ichneumon

Okay, I can accept that; but I am almost positive that in a very early thread someone made the comment that CBS showed up in the header because they (CBS) faxed them to the WH. My point was, I guess, that this was the first time I had heard they were hand-delivered.


278 posted on 09/19/2004 12:37:14 PM PDT by ajf0
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To: kennedy

"You're traveling through another dimension,
a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind;
a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are
that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead-
- your next stop . . .
The Twilight Zone!"

279 posted on 09/19/2004 1:00:25 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: AngrySpud
Dan wishes he could say these two gems of his today about this race.

******

"This race is tight like a too-small bathing suit on a too-long ride home from the beach."

"This race is as tight as the rusted lug nuts on a '55 Ford."

What a strango, Dan is.

280 posted on 09/19/2004 1:17:01 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza - let them run around naked, at least the kids)
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