Posted on 09/18/2004 9:53:18 PM PDT by Perdogg
Who is it that we think broke into the Niger embassy again?
Excellent summary. I don't think it's tin foil hat at all!
Thank you for assembling all that information.
The CIA has obviously been a wing of the Democrat Party for some years now, but it has never been clear to me exactly when or how this started. It clearly predated Clinton, although his appointees naturally hewed to this line. And if they were involved in bringing down Nixon, then it must go at least back to Johnson. That is, there is a long-embedded leftist culture at the CIA.
In re Rocco's documents: documents from a government such as Niger has, are pretty crude by a western government's standards, making forgery-spotting a bit harder. To further confuse the issue, Saddam's boffins WERE buying yellowcake in Africa. Soooo?
As far as outing Valerie, who was about as undercover as Okra Winfrey, Joe Wilson did that on his website, and these two were bounding about the Democrat Convention announcing it to all and sundry. Hell, they published it in "Vanity Fair!" The lying SOS was proud of his old lady's "career" at the CIA. The worthless Clintonoid was using his wife's connections to drum up consulting business!
If only the GOP chiefs had the cojones to sack every damn Democrat when they win an election! Instead, over the years, the entire DC government infrastructure elite has become a Democrat evil elite, from top-to-bottom.
It's what the Communists used to call the "Nomenklatura." They merely lie in wait to destroy the Republicans, who evidently are always ready to prove that we are the party of the stupid, ultimately too stupid to trump the party of the evil.
Our Republicans are busy formulatting ideas, solutions to America's problems. The dems though spend their energies on criticizing, setting up ploys, sabotage and underhanded efforts to grab back power.
Take your pick - the party of ideas and results, or the party of underhanded sabotage of those with ideas and those who sell those ideas. A no brainer for me.
I will never ever vote for a democrat for any office again. So apparently their efforts are not totally successful as I am a lot smarter than they think. I see through them.
Those not so blessed have an equal vote. In fact, given the massive vote fraud so far ignored by the GOP, one might say the less gifted have more than an equal vote.
I will never ever vote for a democrat for any office again.
Not all Republicans see their duty that clearly. One hiccup in the economy, whether real, perceived, or manufactured by the MSM, and our control of Congress is gone.
The key difference between the Democrats and the Republicans? The Democrat leaders tell their people what to do, and what to believe, and they obey. The Republicans tell their leaders what needs to be done and our leaders DO NOT BELIEVE, and DO NOT GET IT DONE. IMHO, our Republican leaders are more mindful of Democrat criticism than they are of the wishes of the faithful base that put them were they are.
Yup! I read this last year. Good idea to post it again.
Good old friend, France.
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Fedora is the best researcher. Remind me never to cross her . ;)
I'm not sure we know, but we had some interesting discussion of that here starting around Post 226:
Prosecutor In CIA Leak Case Casting A Wide Net (My Title: CIA Questioned in "Leak" Case)
Thanks; it's "him", though, LOL. I should've known not to pick a hat for a screenname. . . :-)
Oh well...I just got called "bro"...I don't think my hubby would like that one very well, LOL! Thanks for the link above. Gotta run...hubby's waiting for dinner impatiently! See y'all tomorrow!
It had to be CIA or ex-CIA. I personally think it was Vince Cannistraro, who is the security advisor for the Vatican in Rome, where the Niger Embassy is located.
Wash Note is posting that 1-5 indictments are coming sdown--all targets have received letters. Indictments are sealed. Presser Thur.
If that's so--I doubt it's Rove and Libby they were photographed in the WH yesterday, and I have to think their resignations letters would have been sent as soon as the letters were received.
Why did Fitz call Wilson on Sept 29?
LOL! Okay, I'm about to eat, too. I'm going to think about this some more, though.
That's very interesting. Do we know if Fitzgerald has questioned Wilson before?
bttt
Yes, they were!
Not before the gj according to Wilson--he and Plame were separately interviewed early in the investigation.
Here's an interesting tidbit:
Rick Moran had commented on an earlier post of mine that WINPAC would not be happy that Fitzgerald was looking into the Niger documents - because his recollection was they had something to do with the initial confirmation of the Niger Intel. I give Rick credit for a pretty darn good memory - including the tip it was addressed in the Senate investigation report. He was very, very close!
Actually the forged documents were sent to the CIA in early October 2002, but the destination inside the CIA is redacted.
Here the documents stayed unchallenged until January of 2003, when the WINPAC section of the CIA was asked to respond to the Niger government’s December ‘02 claim that they had not made any agreements with Saddam. It was then that WINPAC realized they did not have the documents! It was at this time a new version was sent to WINPAC and the forgeries discovered.
What happened to the documents sent in October of 2002? Well, there is evidence that does point back to the CIA CPD (Valerie Plame’s group at the time of Wilson’s Niger visit 8 months earlier):
On October 16, 2002, INR made copies of the documents available at the NIAG meeting for attendees, including representatives from the CIA, DIA, DOE and NSA. Because the analyst who offered to provide the documents was on leave, the office’s senior analyst provided the documents. She cannot recall how she made the documents available, but analysts from several agencies, including the DIA, NSA and DOE, did pick up copies at that meeting. None of the four CIA representatives recall picking up the documents, however, during the CIA Inspector General’s investigation of this issue, copies of the documents were found in the DO’s CPD vault. It appears that a CPD representative did pick up the documents at the NIAG meeting, but after returning to the office, filed them without any further distribution.
And then there is this final tidbit:
On December 17, 2002, WINPAC analysts produced a paper, U.S. Analysis of Iraq’s Declaration, 7 December 2002. The paper reviewed Iraq’s “Currently Accurate, Full and Complete Disclosure” to the UN of its WMD programs and made only two points regarding the nuclear program - one noted Iraq’s failure to explain its procurement of aluminum tubes the IC assessed could be used in a nuclear program, and the other noted that the declaration “does not acknowledge efforts to procure uranium from Niger, one of the points addressed in the U.K. Dossier.” An e-mail from the INR Iraq nuclear analyst to a DOE analyst on December 23, 2002 indicated that the analyst was surprised that INR’s well known alternative views on both the aluminum tubes and the uranium information were not included in the points before they were transmitted to the NSC. The DOE analyst commented in an e-mail response to INR that, “it is most disturbing that WINPAC is essentially directing foreign policy in this matter. There are some very strong points to be made in respect to Iraq’s arrogant non-compliance with UN sanctions. However, when individuals attempt to convert those “strong statements” into the “knock out” punch, the Administration will ultimately look foolish - i.e. the tubes and Niger!”
http://www.strata-sphere.com/blog/
Thanks; good tidbit :-)
You're welcome.I know if I ever need it and can't remember where it was, you'll have it and in good order. ;)
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