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Dan Rather is Not an Ex-Marine
Personal knowledge/opinion | September 20, 2003 | Donald J. Taylor

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:27:26 AM PDT by DJ Taylor

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To: Condor51

As I recall, my first few days at MCRD San Diego were less than comfortable as my schedule was never in line with the Marine Corps. They wouldn't let me smoke when I wanted, nor could I do anything else. I made a large mistake by inquiring if it would be possible to switch services.

In an instant, I had a special meeting with three huge Drill Instructors, whose names are "seared in my memory." They gave me two options: "I could go out in a box or I would graduate a U.S. Marine."

Obviosuly, I decided on the latter and decided that it would be healthier to smoke when the smoking lamp was lit. I concur that it is not too easy to get out of Boot Camp and now I am forever in debt to those three Drill Instructors who at the time had convinced me that they did indeed have that box.

Semper Fi!


61 posted on 09/20/2004 7:34:48 AM PDT by Seniram US (Quote of the Day: Smile You're An American)
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To: DJ Taylor

NOW I know why libs like Rat-ther are called BED-WETTING maggots!

Semper Fi, "Doc" Holladay
P.I. 1975


62 posted on 09/20/2004 7:43:02 AM PDT by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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To: DJ Taylor
Expert: Dan Rather Exaggerates Military Record

First of all, I find it highly unlikely that the Marine Corps would allow Dan Rather to enlist in spite of a known disability.

Happens all the time for two reasons: (1)the enlistee fails to disclose said disability to the recruiter or (2)the recruiter instructs the enlistee not to disclose said disability.

simply because the enlistment physical was so thorough that very few recruits were admitted with existing physical defects.

My "thorough" physical did not detect that I had suffered a fractured skull at age 17 and my recruiter told me not to disclose it. Recruiters tend to overlook/hide things in order to make quota. That's been happening since RS Tun Tavern and will never stop.

63 posted on 09/20/2004 7:48:15 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: gobucks

You’re right, I’m new to this web-site and not too sure of what a “Troll” might be, so I’ll let you decide.

Your comment concerning my writing skills is appreciated, as they seem to come from someone associated with the Staff/Faculty of the University of Virginia at Richmond. I assure you, any writing skills I may have were gained after my retirement, while using the GI Bill at George Mason University, and not prior to my service in the Marine Corps.

As for the “smell” of 10 college boys being bed-wetters, you seem to have taken special umbrage with that statement, probably because, as an academic, you identify with them. I apologize, if I offended you, and I would like to clarify that paragraph for you. When I wrote, “about 20 high school graduates, about 20 high school drop outs, and about 10 college boys,” I was being intentionally vague about the exact number because, after almost a half century, I wasn’t completely sure of the exact number. What I do specifically remember is that there were between 5 to 10 college boys in my recruit platoon and none of them made it to graduation. Most of them I knew to be bed-wetters, but I never learned why some of them disappeared, I only suspected that they too were nocturnally incontinent. It was only after several years that I began to suspect that I had been witness to a draft-dodging scam perpetrated on the Marine Corps.

I will not go into my military service and tours in Vietnam, as that is not pertinent to the issue at hand. But, I will admit that there has been a deep burning hate in my gut for Dan Rather ever since the election of 1968 when, in support of an ant-war Democrat for President, he began to make anti-American and pro-Communist reports from Vietnam for CBS (Communist Broadcasting System). The fact that I was in a death struggle with the enemies of my country and he took the side of the enemy will not soon be forgotten by me or any of my fellow marines, soldiers, sailors, or airmen with whom I served in the Republic of Vietnam.

If this makes me a “Troll” on your web-site, then maybe I’m just on the wrong site.


64 posted on 09/20/2004 8:10:38 AM PDT by DJ Taylor
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To: DJ Taylor
But, I will admit that there has been a deep burning hate in my gut for Dan Rather ever since the election of 1968 when, in support of an ant-war Democrat for President, he began to make anti-American and pro-Communist reports from Vietnam for CBS (Communist Broadcasting System). The fact that I was in a death struggle with the enemies of my country and he took the side of the enemy will not soon be forgotten by me or any of my fellow marines, soldiers, sailors, or airmen with whom I served in the Republic of Vietnam.

I, respectfully, withdraw my charge. You clearly are not a troll. No self-respecting troll would state the anti communistic stuff you did. Welcome, and I mean it, to FR. For a first post, it was a good one. The idea Rather would have been a bed wetter .... it just rings so loudly as possible.

And I detest Rather as well. You are on the, ahem, right site.

(Btw, I'm not an academic, nor in academia (and I don't write well, granted). I'm merely a golfer, a severely handicapped golfer. Was bitten by the incurable virus only last year.)

65 posted on 09/20/2004 8:30:53 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: DJ Taylor

"as they seem to come from someone associated with the Staff/Faculty of the University of Virginia at Richmond. "

Btw, just curious, what prompted this association? I don't have a thing to do with this outfit...


66 posted on 09/20/2004 8:33:23 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: DJ Taylor

Thanks for posting. My deceased father was a Marine (was in Cuban Missle Crisis). I made the mistake of referring to him as an "ex-Marine" one time - he quickly corrected me and said "Son, you're never an EX Marine..."

Dan Rather couldn't carry his dog tags.


67 posted on 09/20/2004 8:33:38 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg
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To: DJ Taylor

Thanks for posting!


68 posted on 09/20/2004 8:42:54 AM PDT by dennisw (There)
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To: DJ Taylor

When I was in the U.S. Navy (10 years), during bootcamp, we had a recruit who intentionally began wetting the bed to get out...he was admnistratively discharged due to unsuitability. He didn't receive a medical discharge.

Having been a Corpsman with 1st BN, 5th Marine Regiment, Weapons Company, 81mm Mortar Platoon, I can personally attest to the fact the Marine Corps does not tolerate rack pissers, fat bodies, and non performers.

Semper Fi


69 posted on 09/20/2004 8:56:00 AM PDT by Gothguy
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To: gobucks
this is fishy

That's the way it was in 1959 in the Air Force. Wash out of boot camp for bed wetting and you were safe from the draft. By the way, this info on Dan Rather has been posted more than once on FR. Why are you defending Dan Rather?
70 posted on 09/20/2004 9:16:25 AM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: gobucks
Most marines I know, especially noncollege types (... you claim to be non-college by implication), can't write very well.

You suffer from cranial rectumitis, college boy.

71 posted on 09/20/2004 10:38:20 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: mugs99
Why are you defending Dan Rather?

I can't stand him and I'm not; just trying to watch out for weirdos coming into FR and attempting to harm FR credibility, as it is anyway. The story was just so far fetched - and the poster's one day old status, and that being the first article he posted, a vanity, made me suspicious. But, a few posts later, you'll see he and I have come to terms about the fact he can't be a troll. He and I share a common animosity toward communists.

72 posted on 09/20/2004 10:44:43 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

You suffer from cranial rectumitis, college boy.

Hey, I've already acknowledged being too jumpy on the conclusions with Dj ....

And I am a man.


73 posted on 09/20/2004 10:46:23 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks

Sorry gobucks,
I read your later post after I responded. My mistake, and your intention is valid. I'll be sure to read further down the threads before I reply in the future!


74 posted on 09/20/2004 11:19:37 AM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: woodb01
The widow and son were IGNORED

I remember a Hannity interview in which the son said he could recall specific conversations with his father, during which his father praised LT Bush. The ONLY reason to ignore this kind of info is political agenda. Rather and CBS can no longer fool the public. Well, not the thinking public anyway.

PS click on this link and read the text of an officially written and acknowledged as authentic memo about Lt Bush

75 posted on 09/20/2004 11:27:38 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Proud Virginian)
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To: gobucks
And I am a man.

Perhaps at first glance from a physical perspective. However, in reality you're an immature gum flapper.

76 posted on 09/20/2004 12:38:37 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: DJ Taylor
Welcome to FR. I saw recruits get out of the USAF in the way you described twenty years after your boot camp experience. I knew of a HS classmate that micturated himself out of the Navy in the early 1970's with that very same action. Your hypothesis about Dan Rather's possible release from the USMC has merit. Maybe Rather will release his SF 180 and clear this up.
77 posted on 09/20/2004 1:46:23 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (In memory of T/Sgt. Secundino "Dean" Baldonado, Jarales, NM-KIA Bien Hoa AFB, RVN 1965)
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To: AppyPappy

Took him that long to aquire 3 PH's, a Bronze and a Silver.


78 posted on 10/03/2004 2:39:32 PM PDT by TheSaurus
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To: DJ Taylor
Dan Rather is Not an Ex-Marine Personal knowledge/opinion | September 20, 2003 | Donald J. Taylor

Funny, the real Marines never call themselves ex-Marines but "former Marines" because one is a Marine for life!

I should know, because my closest friends are "former" Marines and as a matter of fact they do feel offended when one calls them "ex-".

Welcome to FR DJT!

79 posted on 11/12/2004 7:26:57 PM PST by danmar ("Reason obeys itself, and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" Thomas Paine)
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To: DJ Taylor
Don.. LoL.... I heard that....
Would explain a lot about Dan Rather...
80 posted on 11/12/2004 7:36:47 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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