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Georgia lawyer led challenge to CBS documents [Buckhead... FreeRepublic!]
Cox News Service ^ | September 20, 2004 | By Tom Baxter

Posted on 09/20/2004 6:13:09 AM PDT by johnny7

ATLANTA — An Atlanta lawyer, Harry W. MacDougald, has become a key figure in the controversy over whether CBS News relied on forged documents to question President Bush's service in the National Guard.

Writing under the nickname "Buckhead" in a posting on FreeRepublic.com, a conservative Web site, MacDougald was the first to question the authenticity of documents purportedly written in 1972 because the proportionally spaced fonts used in the memos were not used in typewriters at that time. "I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old," he wrote in a message posted less than four hours after the Sept. 8 broadcast of "60 Minutes" in which the documents were revealed.

Overnight, "Buckhead" became an Internet hero to conservatives as his five-paragraph posting touched off a cascade of questions about the documents. One suggested he be named "Freeper of the Year," using the name FreeRepublic posters call themselves. On Democratic blogs, meanwhile, questions were being raised about how "Buckhead" could have analyzed the typefaces so quickly, and whether the questioned documents could have been a Republican plant. MacDougald, 46, confirmed he was "Buckhead" after the Los Angeles Times traced his identity through biographical hints posted on the Web site. He declined to comment further to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution or to the Los Angeles Times.

MacDougald serves on the advisory board of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, a conservative advocacy group, and as a sole practitioner was involved in two of the foundation's high-profile cases: a challenge to the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill, and the Arkansas disbarment proceedings against former President Bill Clinton. He also wrote an amicus brief for FreeRepublic.com in a breach of copyright case brought against the Web site by the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. Phil Kent, a former president of the foundation, said he was "tickled" to learn of MacDougald's involvement. "He's always been kind of an Internet watchdog," Kent said. "Harry's a jack-of-all trades. He's very aware of a lot of things most of us wouldn't pick up on."

Former Atlanta City Councilman Lee Morris, who was deposed by MacDougald as a friendly witness in one of several whistle-blower cases he successfully litigated against the city, described him as a "meticulous" attorney, who "seemed like he was fired up for the right reasons." Former Atlanta Journal-Constitution columnist Colin Campbell, who interviewed him several times about the whistle-blower cases, said MacDougald struck him both as "a man of integrity" and "someone who loves to stir the pot." While several associates referred to MacDougald as a prodigious researcher, none knew of any experience he has had in identifying forged documents.

MacDougald works for Womble, Carlyle Sandridge & Rice, a North Carolina-based firm that opened its Atlanta branch in 1993. He's a graduate of Brown University and the University of Georgia Law School. He's also a member of the Atlanta chapter of the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group from which a number of the Bush administration's federal judicial nominees have been drawn.

The memos reported on by CBS were allegedly written by Bush's Texas Air National Guard commander, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, suggesting that Bush had received preferential treatment and failed to show up for a required physical. The Washington Post reported Saturday that Bill Burkett, the former Guard officer suspected of providing the documents to CBS, contacted former Georgia Sen. Max Cleland in August to offer the same information to Sen. John Kerry's campaign. Cleland confirmed that he told Burkett in a brief phone conversation to contact others in the campaign. Burkett wrote in a Web posting that the Kerry campaign didn't call him back. The Post also pointed out several words and phrases which were repeated in the alleged Killian documents and in Web postings made recently by Burkett. In addition to the speed with which the typeface discrepancies were pointed out, Democrats have questioned the immediate release of copies of the documents by the White House, which had obtained them from CBS.

As more information filtered out, "Buckhead" became more cautious than he was in his initial post. Congratulations were "premature" he replied to one admirer on Sept. 9, saying his conjecture was "not 100% conclusive because the IBM Executive and IBM Selectric Composer would do proportional fonts."

Later in the day, "Buckhead" wrote to another poster that he felt additional information was confirming his suspicions. "As for my part, this tsunami would, without any doubt whatsoever, have happened w/o me, so it ain't no big thang," he wrote. "I will have a cold one tonight, though."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buckhead; cbsnews; forgery; killian; rather; rathergate
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"I will have a cold one tonight, though."

Ha!

1 posted on 09/20/2004 6:13:10 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7

Finally, Atlanta based Cox (Atlanta Urinal-Constipation), gets onto a story they should have been on in the beginning.


2 posted on 09/20/2004 6:16:16 AM PDT by buzzyboop (no tags, no fuss)
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To: johnny7

Buckhead RULES!

(Yes, I am a product of the 80's)


3 posted on 09/20/2004 6:17:40 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: johnny7; Buckhead
Thanks for this thread, Johnny.

BUCKHEAD: Your intrepid watchfulness deserves a SALUTE:

Now, here it comes: the Socialist backlash. A few days ago, I posted a few no-nonsense things you coud do to harden you as a target - take them to heart, on behalf of all of us.

4 posted on 09/20/2004 6:18:26 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: johnny7

Although this was not done in this case, I think it raises the standard question as to whether an experienced hacker could get into FR files and find the exact indentities of certain posters (i.e. their DNS numbers, or e mails or actual names) based on information provided when we sign up to receive our monikers and posting rights. This may have been addressed in the past, but some are probably still wondering.


5 posted on 09/20/2004 6:19:06 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Let's put flowers & a copy of Post #47 on Nixon's grave. He'd be proud of Buckhead, and most amazed.)
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To: johnny7

What kind of pajamas does he wear?


6 posted on 09/20/2004 6:20:29 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: buzzyboop

The implication is, "...because he's a conservative, he was in on the hoax, which was a trap for CBS, set by conservatives." I don't listen to NPR but I can hear this 2nd day PM lead story already.


7 posted on 09/20/2004 6:21:07 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: johnny7
An Atlanta lawyer, Harry W. MacDougald

I see him as Atticus Finch--fighting injustice, etc.........I'm sure that's not how MSM sees him.

8 posted on 09/20/2004 6:22:29 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-1986)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Regardless of precautions that websites use to protect their participants, anyone with the proper equipment (Protocol Analyzer) can capture the traffic on a specific IP address, trace it to its origin, then do a search and locate that person. If anyone wants to catch you, and they have the proper resources, they can.


9 posted on 09/20/2004 6:23:38 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: nuffsenuff

Yes a "man of integrity" brought down the unprofessional journalist--Dan Rather.


10 posted on 09/20/2004 6:24:41 AM PDT by rod1
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To: johnny7
Very informative posting. Thanks!

Who Is Dan Rather? Dan Rather is DUPEthroat

11 posted on 09/20/2004 6:24:54 AM PDT by syriacus (Dan Rather has a fine career ahead of him........as a gossip columnist called "DUPEthroat.")
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To: johnny7
On Democratic blogs, meanwhile, questions were being raised about how "Buckhead" could have analyzed the typefaces so quickly,

LOL! Not too bright over there are they?

12 posted on 09/20/2004 6:26:25 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: johnny7

Harry W. MacDougald. Kudos to ya sir.


13 posted on 09/20/2004 6:26:29 AM PDT by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Good point. I wonder if they were as diligent at seeking the identity of Rather's document source. I doubt it.
14 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:07 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: johnny7

Fact is, there are a LOT of VERY serious issues that should be pushed HARD about the documets.

1. The widow and son were IGNORED
2. Document experts were IGNORED
3. Hodges was MISLED
4. The old secretary was NOT INTERVIEWED until afterward
5. The opinions of the experts were MISREPRESENTED
6. The swift boat veterans were MALIGNED
7. George Bush's roomate DURING HIS GUARD YEARS, who AGREED TO SPEAK TO THEM WAS TURNED DOWN BECAUSE HE WAS TOO "PRO BUSH"...

And the list goes on. Fact is, this was a HIT PIECE ON BUSH. And just because dnCBS owns up to fake documents does NOT CLEAR THEIR PROPAGANDA / DNC REPORTING!!

If the documents were the ONLY ISSUE in this, without all of the other plainly propaganda driven results, it wouldn't be such an issue.

THE DOCUMENTS ARE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG! THE ICEBERG IS THE MANIPULATION AND DECEPTION OF THE PUBLIC!!


15 posted on 09/20/2004 6:29:58 AM PDT by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make dnCBS EXTINCT)
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To: Izzy Dunne

When the FReeper pj's come out for Christmas, they must have FReeper names on the shoulders, ya know like baseball uniforms? I nominate Buckhead for the FR pj's.


16 posted on 09/20/2004 6:30:52 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: johnny7
Excuse me, but are there any 'facts' in this story beyond Buckhead's personal associations? It strikes me that the Atlanta Journal & Constitution really doesn't have enough to go on here, and yet they publish this stuff?

They should be looking into how the forgeries came to CBS. That is knowable and doesn't require this level of speculation.

17 posted on 09/20/2004 6:34:41 AM PDT by Tallguy (If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
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To: woodb01
6. The swift boat veterans were MALIGNED

..and IGNORED!
Correct me if I'm wrong but to this day their facts have not had a hearing on CBS. DISMISSED as partisan attackers when in fact most are fed up Democrats.

Zellocrats!!!

18 posted on 09/20/2004 6:36:01 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I think someone who wanted to discover the identity of a particular Freeper and had the resources of a major daily could find out. I know I've posted enough personal stuff that could be used to backtrack me to my real identity. So I don't believe the LAT's discovery of Buckhead was the work of a hacker, but of a curious newspaper reporter.

Unfortunately if the MSM put half the effort into things like the Rather Forgeries or the Swiftboat charges there would have been no need for Buckhead or anyone else to out the forgeries. And the fact that LAT spent time trying to discover Buchead's identity and NOT trying to find who forged and distributed the memos shows why Buckhead, Bloggers, and especially Free Republic are desparately needed.

19 posted on 09/20/2004 6:36:42 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
They(hacker's) already have. I caught one instance of this 2 weeks ago while posting and article.

The 'Topics' screen was filled with nonsensical drivel.

20 posted on 09/20/2004 6:37:01 AM PDT by johnny7 (“This is no motley of Japs!” -Merrit 'Red Mike' Edson, Guadalcanal)
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To: johnny7; Buckhead

BTTT!


21 posted on 09/20/2004 6:37:15 AM PDT by The Mayor (It is easier to resist the first evil desire than to satisfy all the ones that follow.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Howlin
The implication is, "...because he's a conservative, he was in on the hoax, which was a trap for CBS, set by conservatives."

Following through, to the logical conclusion of any CBS spin like that....

If it was a trap, then this a "sting" operation, which was designed to expose Rather's bias.

Couldn't happen to a lousier guy.

At any rate, as Buckhead says, other Freepers, also, noticed how "funny" the memos were. It's very odd that CBS's experts didn't notice the anachronisms.

Chronologically arranged documentation of the FreeRepublic posts is at FOR THE RECORD: CBS Memos Controversy on Free Republic

22 posted on 09/20/2004 6:39:09 AM PDT by syriacus (Dan Rather has a fine career ahead of him........as a gossip columnist called "DUPEthroat.")
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To: johnny7

Thank you Buckhead for providing us in the VRWC weeks (maybe months) of joy and laughter at watching Rather and his dim supporters squirm, and exposing them for the frauds they are.

Right on bro!(yes I am a product of the 60's)


23 posted on 09/20/2004 6:40:23 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Izzy Dunne; johnny7
What kind of pajamas does he wear?

Hmmmm, a whole new line of "Buckhead" pajamas coming to a store near you.

24 posted on 09/20/2004 6:41:32 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: xkaydet65
Unfortunately if the MSM put half the effort into things like the Rather Forgeries or the Swiftboat charges

Dan Rather should have spent time investigating a real scandal, like the UN Oil for Food program.

25 posted on 09/20/2004 6:41:35 AM PDT by syriacus (Dan Rather has a fine career ahead of him........as a gossip columnist called "DUPEthroat.")
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To: Izzy Dunne

I have a memo from Cox that says he doesn't wear PJs!


26 posted on 09/20/2004 6:42:58 AM PDT by rabidralph (Doing the gloating that Republicans won't do.)
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To: TommyDale
Regardless of precautions that websites use to protect their participants, anyone with the proper equipment (Protocol Analyzer) can capture the traffic on a specific IP address, trace it to its origin, then do a search and locate that person.

Not quite. The analyzer has to be set up in a location where the traffic passes, and there's no simple way to associate an IP address with a particular person, unless you have access to his ISP's internal billing records.

27 posted on 09/20/2004 6:44:49 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: johnny7
While several associates referred to MacDougald as a prodigious researcher, none knew of any experience he has had in identifying forged documents.

I have no experience with forged documents either. But like probably millions of others I've used typewriters and computers extensively. It was only a matter of time until *somebody* figured out why the fake, forged memo's looked so wrong.

28 posted on 09/20/2004 6:45:47 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Faked and forged documents, with no originals to decifer their mode of manufacture? What a weak case!
Somehow I 'd guess that the originals will show up on the same day that John sKerry signs his Form 180. Ha ha! I'm not holding my breath.
29 posted on 09/20/2004 6:51:39 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: johnny7

bump for later...


30 posted on 09/20/2004 6:52:26 AM PDT by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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To: johnny7
MacDougald, 46, confirmed he was "Buckhead" after the Los Angeles Times traced his identity through biographical hints posted on the Web site.

Is that how they "really" did it?

31 posted on 09/20/2004 6:54:02 AM PDT by joesnuffy (JFKerry is dumber than a homemade radio...the kind with hand carved wooden tubes)
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To: ThirstyMan

Correct me if I'm wrong but to this day their facts have not had a hearing on CBS. DISMISSED as partisan attackers when in fact most are fed up Democrats.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All the more reason why dnCBS would NEVER run anything favorable about them. Kerry would be lucky to get the hard core, radical, insane feminist / Log Cabin Republican / and Union vote to the tune of 15%. Think about it, it comes out that these are DEMOCRATS, and that they're VETERANS who served with Kerry?

Beyond well-done, the Kerry campaign would be a charcoal brickette.


32 posted on 09/20/2004 6:54:28 AM PDT by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make dnCBS EXTINCT)
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To: Izzy Dunne; Buckhead; All
"What kind of pajamas does he wear?"

LOL. . .they did not 'go there'. . .

Love the good press that BuckHead is receiving and by association; Free Republic ;^)

And of course, kudos to BuckHead!

33 posted on 09/20/2004 6:56:14 AM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I have sold dozens to the NSA for doing just what I described.
Don't tell them that they can't do it, okay?


34 posted on 09/20/2004 6:57:11 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: johnny7; Buckhead
"I will have a cold one tonight, though."

Here's to ya!


35 posted on 09/20/2004 6:59:41 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: woodb01

#15. Excellent post. Thank you for laying it all out for us.


36 posted on 09/20/2004 7:03:46 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Proud to be associated with pajama wearing news gatherers)
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To: johnny7

Stay safe Buckhead.I fear the smearing is just beginning.


37 posted on 09/20/2004 7:04:52 AM PDT by quack
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To: DouglasKC
...none knew of any experience he has had in identifying forged documents.

You don't have to be an expert on the forgery of documents... you just have to know the history of the IBM 'Composer' typewritter.

Plus the other 'incidentals' like; The wrong format for the documents. Witnesses who retired before the memo was written. The background of Burkett and the hatred that Rather has for the Bush family.

I worked on a 'Composer' when I got out of college... 1974... and once I saw the PDF's I smelled a turd.

38 posted on 09/20/2004 7:06:46 AM PDT by johnny7 (“This is no motley of Japs!” -Merrit 'Red Mike' Edson, Guadalcanal)
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To: johnny7; Buckhead

Way to go Buckhead!
I've been following every moment since you started reporting your findings and questions on Gunga Blather. Great work, all bloggers!


39 posted on 09/20/2004 7:09:05 AM PDT by meema
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To: woodb01

I believe you are pretty close to being right on the dot. They've (CBS News, particularly Rather and his producer) wanted to do this hatchet job on Bush for a very long time and any "evidence", no matter how thin or forged, in support of that goal was happily received.

However, there's more to this little farce that needs to be uncovered. CBS said they had "unimpeachable sources" and this guy Burkett is a tin-foil hat type from way back and his grudge against Bush is obvious to even the most casual observer. Burkett would have NEVER gotten by the receptionist at CBS. So, obviously somebody that CBS trusted completely "fronted" this story to CBS and vouched for this Burkett guy? Who has that kind of credibility to have CBS private phone numbers, and would know who had a predisposition to do a hit piece of reporting on Bush?

That's the person that needs to be identified and outed! And, I'm betting that there is a very clear, top level DNC/Kerry campaign connection. Remember all the stuff floating around this weekend about Cleland saying he spoke with Burkett? How does a goof like Burkett get Cleland's cell phone number? A middleman, or information clearing house, from CBS to the DNC/Kerry campaign is painfully clear!

You're absolutely right on this part -- there is a clear attempt to manipulate the news and deceive the public. CBS has to come completely clean and tell us who are their co-conspirators! Some little "mea culpa" and a "never mind, let's move along" just is NOT going to cut it here!


40 posted on 09/20/2004 7:09:34 AM PDT by Barnstormer
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To: johnny7

Buckhead,
SeeBS and Dan Rather need to thank you publicly for uncovering fraud. Bill 'em by the hour and send the bill to Danny Boy...it should at least cover the cost of new custom fitted Kevlar pajamas. :o)

Best regards,
Liberty


W'04


41 posted on 09/20/2004 7:09:43 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Pajama futures are lookin' pretty good)
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To: johnny7
I thought Buckhead was just a crazed nut of an amateur working in his pajamas?
42 posted on 09/20/2004 7:10:24 AM PDT by brothers4thID (I have knocked on door of this man's soul- and found someone home.)
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To: johnny7

I got to use one of these justifying margin typewriters back in 1979-80. The way it stored some words and appeared to be typing slightly slower than I was hitting the keys was eerie.


43 posted on 09/20/2004 7:13:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: buzzyboop
Finally, Atlanta based Cox (Atlanta Urinal-Constipation), gets onto a story they should have been on in the beginning.

You have to keep in mind that Cox and the Urinal/Constipation hate conservatism even more than CBS and Dan Blather hate it.

44 posted on 09/20/2004 7:15:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: johnny7
Soooooooo ... WHEN are these papers going to start investing Bill Burkett and his connection to the Dem party??

One would think they would be interested in who forged these documents

Reports from CBS insiders are that they came from Bill Burkett .. it shouldn't be to hard to find out .. IF THE LOOKED INTO IT

45 posted on 09/20/2004 7:26:21 AM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: johnny7
"I will have a cold one tonight, though."

I would gladly give to a fund which would supply Buckhead with free beer for life, he so deserves it...

I joined Free Republic because one of its earliest missions and goals was to expose the liberal bias in the MSM. Finding a place to gather and vent with others who could understand the relentless bullsh*t propaganda masquerading as journalism which dominated the media saved my sanity many times.

That a Freeper exposed that bias more convincingly than any any other effort I've seen to date is such a vindication, it is a spectacular success of this forum. Thank you Buckhead.

46 posted on 09/20/2004 7:27:03 AM PDT by Geronimo
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To: johnny7
The man has been defending our constitution and our beloved country against the traitors all this time.

That he is a FREEPER honors us all.

Thanks, sir!

47 posted on 09/20/2004 7:31:04 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: johnny7
...has become a key figure in the controversy...

*rolls eyes* I really feel sorry for Buckhead. This is the MSM's Gestapo tactics. Expose us and we'll smear you.

48 posted on 09/20/2004 7:32:38 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: from occupied ga

"-You have to keep in mind that Cox and the Urinal/Constipation hate conservatism even more than CBS and Dan Blather hate it."

We wouldn't take the Urinal and Constipation even if they gave it to us to wrap our fish in. We tell them that, everytime they call to try to sell us the paper and ....we tell them why :)


49 posted on 09/20/2004 7:43:53 AM PDT by rotundusmaximus
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To: rotundusmaximus
I usually tell them that I wouldn't have that liberals piece of sh!t in my house if they paid me to take it, and then they tell me what a good deal it is. :-)
50 posted on 09/20/2004 7:46:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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