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Operation Snowbird - How the Donkeys tend to steal election
Palm Beach Post ^ | 9-19-2004 | Mary McLachlin

Posted on 09/20/2004 1:39:42 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Lawyer urges snowbirds to cast their votes in Florida By Mary McLachlin

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Sunday, September 19, 2004

BOCA RATON— In the muddled aftermath of Election 2000, Lawrence Caplan lost a legal fight and learned an important political lesson at the hands of none other than Vice President Dick Cheney:

You can live in one state and vote in another.

Caplan, a tax and corporate lawyer, has turned that lesson into Operation: Snowbird, an Internet tool designed to make a difference in the election of 2004 — if Democratic voters in New York and New Jersey respond to it.

All they have to do, according to Caplan's Web site, www.operationsnowbird.com, is switch their registrations to Florida, where their votes are more likely to be needed by the Kerry-Edwards ticket than in the deep "blue" states up north. (The last day to register for the Nov. 2 election is Oct. 4.)

New York went for Gore-Lieberman by more than 1.7 million votes, while the official margin for Bush-Cheney in Florida was 537. If only 600 of the 2.2 million votes cast for the Democratic ticket in New York had been cast in Florida, according to the Snowbird site, the state's electoral votes and the presidency would have gone to Al Gore.

(Excerpt) Read more at palmbeachpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cheating; democrats; election; fraud; newbie; politics; republicans; steal; votefraud; voterfraud
A guide on how to steal the election for the Democrats.

Unbelievable

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/epaper/2004/09/19/m1a_snowbirdvotes_0919.html

1 posted on 09/20/2004 1:39:43 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

let them do it. new york is now in play, if enough snowbirds go south, FL could go dem but NY could go for W


2 posted on 09/20/2004 1:42:35 PM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

A crooked lawyer instructs Rat snowbirds on how to use their votes help his two lawyer buds, the John Johns.

Most of these snowbirders voted twice for Gore in the last election, once by absentee ballot in their northern home state and once by regular ballot in Floriduh!


3 posted on 09/20/2004 1:43:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: RolandBurnam

If you have two residences you'd be foolish to keep your official on in NY. Florida has not state income tax. People wealthy enough to own houses in both state probably got that way because they were smart about money. Therefore its safe to assume the vast majority are already claiming Florida residence and registered to vote in that state.


4 posted on 09/20/2004 1:44:47 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Grampa Dave

So, how and can we stop it?


5 posted on 09/20/2004 1:45:00 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Well, at least they're not trying to hide it.


6 posted on 09/20/2004 1:45:12 PM PDT by jds73
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
The Palm Beach Post should come on a roll.


7 posted on 09/20/2004 1:45:55 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

BTTT


8 posted on 09/20/2004 1:46:05 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RolandBurnam

If they can do it, so can we. Since we're essentially giving Kerry Mass, and have no real expectation of winning Vermont or even (really) New York, why not have ALL the Republicans in those three states re-register in Florida??


9 posted on 09/20/2004 1:46:22 PM PDT by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Have these people no shame? Of course not they're LIBERALS, and it's part of their sleazy, power-hungry M.O.


10 posted on 09/20/2004 1:47:37 PM PDT by Daner313
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

I'll bet the Palm Beach Post would have us believe they are absolutely bypartisan, just like Zero Rather and his cBS network.


11 posted on 09/20/2004 1:48:18 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If God had intended Kerry to be our President, we would all have sh*t for brains too!!!!!)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Has Rush, Hannitty or Hewitt commented on this, or would that be a bad thing... giving this more publicity?


12 posted on 09/20/2004 1:48:22 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
The DNC deploys its secret weapon:


13 posted on 09/20/2004 1:48:23 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: sarasotarepublican

The attorney Generals in all of the snowbird states need to get with the ags in southern states and say that double dipping voing will not be tolerated.

However, that will not happen in NY and most of the NE states as their AGs are rats who condone this double dipping.


14 posted on 09/20/2004 1:48:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

New polling data shows Bush closeing the gap in New York state! Letum go vote in Florida then we win BOTH states!


15 posted on 09/20/2004 1:48:42 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude (new and improved redneck)
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To: Joe Brower

May be of some interest to you and those on your ping list.


16 posted on 09/20/2004 1:53:22 PM PDT by ConservativeLawyer (Fools look to tomorrow; a wise man uses tonight.)
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To: Jack Black

I just bought a house in Florida, but we still work in Virginia, so it wouldn't do us any good to claim Florida. A lot of these "snowbirds" are in the same shape we are in. People are working longer and usually it is difficult to take one of these East Coast jobs with you and keep it entact. People have tried that & it usually doesn't work out so hot.


17 posted on 09/20/2004 1:55:35 PM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: southernerwithanattitude
I live in 15 story condo, with 360 units. In the Fall, our building is 80% empty til Spring. The snowbirds go to Boca, and Palm Beach. Every opportunity I have, I copy positive conservative material, from the Jerusalem Post and leave about 100 copies on the mail table..LOL
I am doing my part :)
But I am sure a lot of the folks vote in both places.
18 posted on 09/20/2004 1:56:07 PM PDT by Repub4bush
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To: diamond6

I have not heard of this from Hannity or anyone else. It's one of those things that I'm not sure should be publicized as it may embolden their efforts.


19 posted on 09/20/2004 1:56:07 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
Are there still homeless vets in the USA? In 2000 a woman was caught in Chicago giving cigs to the homeless to vote for Al Gore, and was proud of it.

If there are homeless vets, do they know that John F. Kerry is one of the main reasons the "American" people turned against them?

I wonder what their reaction would be if they were educated? Who would they vote for then?
20 posted on 09/20/2004 2:01:48 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (One man's conspiracy is another man's truth!)
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To: Grampa Dave

There already was one New Yorker being prosecuted for voting twice isn't there?


21 posted on 09/20/2004 2:07:47 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Communism is a mental illness. Historical amnesia is its prerequisite.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Thugs!


22 posted on 09/20/2004 2:10:50 PM PDT by JFC
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Florida Freeper

I'm compiling a list of FReepers in Florida for use in the upcoming elections.
If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.


23 posted on 09/20/2004 2:13:00 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Paul Ross

I think that they got a couple in the last 2002 election.

Since posting my earlier reply, I have come up with a plan.

The conservatives in Floriduh need to come up with a pool of money and pay a bounty to anyone who can document a snowbirder who votes twice and is convicted of voter fraud.

Several thousand $'s of such reward money potential in each key Snowbird area might scare these old rats away.


24 posted on 09/20/2004 2:13:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
The RATS are a bunch of criminals. This isn't the only way they're trying to steal the election. My biggest fear is that President Bush will win legally, but the RATS will have all the 'extra' votes come in from illegal voters and Kerry will win in the end. I don't know if President Bush would fight him on it.

The biggest ace in the hole for us is that Hillary will do something to sink Kerry for us. She wants to run in 08 and as long as Kerry is there, she can't.

25 posted on 09/20/2004 2:14:02 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Never frown, even when you are sad, because you never know who is falling in love with your smile.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

This requires a federal investigation.

The MUST prosecute those who vote in both places.

FL has a consent decree giving the feds total authority to investigate FL elections.


26 posted on 09/20/2004 2:15:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: Joe Brower

See my reply #24 on this thread.

Maybe a bounty on double dipping snowbirds might make some of them to back off.

Also, letters to editors that such double voting is an act of treason against those who legally vote once might stir up enough sentiment.


27 posted on 09/20/2004 2:15:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

This really concerns me. Just when you think this party is corrupt, they prove themselves to be even more corrupt.


28 posted on 09/20/2004 2:15:40 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
They'd better watch out. Those Republicans running Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties will prosecute two-time voters!

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - Democrats John Kerry and John Edwards, on their first trip together to the state that narrowly put President Bush in the White House after a disputed recount in 2000, promised on Thursday that "every vote is going to be counted" this year.

The presidential candidate told thousands of screaming supporters gathered in an airport hanger in Broward County, a region critical to the recount, that he's discovered that Edwards' two young children, ages 6 and 4, were "good at math."

"Those kids really know how to count," Kerry said. "I've given them a special duty in this election. We're sending Jack and Emma Claire down there to help those Republicans in West Palm Beach count those votes." As the crowd erupted, Kerry boomed: "I've got news for you. In 2004, not only does every vote in Florida count but every vote is going to be counted." AP Story June 8, 2004
29 posted on 09/20/2004 2:31:51 PM PDT by The Great Yazoo (Hey! Hey! J-eFing-K! How many Vets did you Diss today?)
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To: Joe Brower
The OperationSnowbird.com website should be thoroughly reviewed by all in this forum.

It's a real stinker.

30 posted on 09/20/2004 2:40:02 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Bonnie, Charley, Frances, Ivan...painting curtains on the boarded windows)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
New Yorkers who have dual residency in Florida are voting twice - once via absentee ballot in NY State, while actually voting in the voting booth in Florida! This has been going on for years!!
31 posted on 09/20/2004 2:44:28 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: All
His e-mail address is info@operationsnowbird.com

I just e-mailed him with the subject "Have at it A**hole! Florida's going Bush anyway!"
32 posted on 09/20/2004 2:48:35 PM PDT by The Great Yazoo (Hey! Hey! J-eFing-K! How many Vets did you Diss today?)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Needed more???? BS! They just vote once in NY and once in Flori-DUH?


33 posted on 09/20/2004 2:51:19 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: The Great Yazoo

You have to love those law abiding Donkeys.


34 posted on 09/20/2004 3:18:07 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Well,

I think we should all let them know how we feel about this...

have Fun...

Regards,
Sonar5

561.988.6009
info@operationsnowbird.com

OPERATION: SNOWBIRD
2200 Corporate Blvd., Suite 304
Boca Raton, Florida 33431

And you can of course call him too. :)

Caplan, Lawrence
(38232662P)
2200 Corporate Blvd., Suite304
Boca Raton, FL 33431
US
Phone: 561.988.6009

Domain Name: OPERATIONSNOWBIRD.COM

Administrative Contact :
Caplan, Lawrence
(38232662P)
intltaxcorplaw@aol.com
2200 Corporate Blvd., Suite304
Boca Raton, FL 33431
US
Phone: 561.988.6009



35 posted on 09/20/2004 3:19:46 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Rastus

"Blame Canada, with their hockey hullabaloo and that b!tch Anne Murray too."


36 posted on 09/20/2004 3:20:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Sonar5

My Little Letter to him at both addresses....

intltaxcorplaw@aol.com
info@operationsnowbird.com

Enjoy,
Sonar5





To the lawyer......

I just went to your site, and what a joke....

In case you don't realize it, there is a poll today that says kerry is ahead by only 5 points in New york....

What are you going to tell the snowbirds now.....to switch back again? I wonder how many will vote twice, like the democratic crooks they may be.

Kerry will lose in Florida, in my opinion, and there is nothing you or your lawyer pathetic john john's can do about that. People are a lot smarter than the morons at the dnc think they are.

And people know slimeball lawyers when they come across them... And that is what kerry and edwards are, slimeball lawyers that don't arise to the level of being called an Attorney at Law

Sounds like more michael mooron stuff to me....

I also took great pleasure in posting your information elsewhere, you know like Freerepublic, that bastion of conservative NEWS that PROVED beyond a reasonable doubt that rather had forged documents.

SO go get your UN observers ready for FloriDUHHHHH!!!, and ready the lawsuits that you may have written already.... And see you in four years because this one is over, and that fat lady is about to sing.....

By the way, everything in this email is only my opinion or meant as satire, so go sue the Vice President or something again.... You really need a life pal....

--
Have a day,
Sonar5


37 posted on 09/20/2004 3:33:09 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

The RNC needs to put up a couple of billboards and run some radio reminding people that it is a felony to vote in tow places in the same election.


38 posted on 09/20/2004 3:33:10 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

I read on another thread sometime back that the election officials in FL don't have access to voter rolls in NY or any other state so they have no way to know if a voter is registered to vote in two states.


39 posted on 09/20/2004 5:56:58 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

BTTT this needs to be on everyone's radar. American soldiers and sailors, and the right wing, can do this too. And SHOULD. PLEASE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE--they're trying to steal Florida AGAIN!


40 posted on 09/20/2004 6:31:49 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: RolandBurnam

You assume they will only vote in one state. That is a very shaky assumption to make. Remember these are Democrats you are talking about.


41 posted on 09/21/2004 7:46:15 AM PDT by Auslander (Always remember, "You fight how you train." So, train hard, train often.)
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To: Repub4bush

Do you make frequent trips back to the mail table to retrieve the materials from the waste can? Just like conservative student publications on college campuses, I’m fairly sure you’ll find a “tolerant diversity seeking” individual has dumped them in the trash.


42 posted on 09/21/2004 7:49:58 AM PDT by Auslander (Always remember, "You fight how you train." So, train hard, train often.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

They are claiming that even asking for a photo ID will 'disenfranchise' voters. (not enough they already count DEM votes from the cemetary)


43 posted on 09/21/2004 7:58:48 AM PDT by bk1000 ("We will take things away from you for the common good.": -HRC)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
THERE'S MORE TO THIS STORY:


Exposed: Scandal of double voters, by RUSS BUETTNER, DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

With debate over the 2000 election still raging, thousands of people illegally register in both New York City and Florida, which could swing an election.

Some 46,000 New Yorkers are registered to vote in both the city and Florida, a shocking finding that exposes both states to potential abuses that could alter the outcome of elections, a Daily News investigation shows. Registering in two places is illegal in both states, but the massive snowbird scandal goes undetected because election officials don't check rolls across state lines.

Source: Daily News, August 21, 2004

NOTE: None of the county boards of elections in NYS (let alone other states) that I have contacted have been asked to cooperate in scrubbing voter roles.

44 posted on 09/21/2004 9:55:22 AM PDT by OESY
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Unfortunately what's suggested by Operation Snowbird isn't at all illegal. The election laws as detailed on http://www.fec.gov are idiotically vague and open. It pretty much boils down to "if a state agrees to let you vote there and you only do it in one state, it's okay." There's a lot of holes and vagueness that needs fixin in the election system.


45 posted on 10/14/2004 9:53:30 AM PDT by JAFL
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