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Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer (Lockhart called Burkett, on Mapes' Suggestion!)
Associated Press ^ | September 20, 2004

Posted on 09/20/2004 5:32:23 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

Posted on Mon, Sep. 20, 2004

Kerry Aide Talked to Retired Guard Officer

Associated Press

NEW YORK - At the behest of CBS, an adviser to John Kerry said he talked to a central figure in the controversy over President Bush's National Guard service shortly before disputed documents were released.

Joe Lockhart denied any connection between the presidential campaign and the papers. Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

"He had some advice on how to deal with the Vietnam issue and the Swift boat" allegations, Lockhart said Monday, referring to GOP-fueled accusations that Kerry exaggerated his Vietnam War record. "He said these guys play tough and we have to put the Vietnam experience into context and have Kerry talk about it more."

Lockhart said he thanked Burkett for his advice after a three to four minute call.

Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records. "It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

CBS News apologized Monday for a "mistake in judgment" in its story questioning Bush's Guard service, claiming it was misled by the source of documents that several experts have dismissed as fakes.

Burkett admitted this weekend to CBS that he lied about obtaining the documents from another former National Guard member, the network said. CBS hasn't been able to conclusively tell how he got them, or even whether they're fakes or not.

Kerry ally Max Cleland, a former Georgia senator, also said he had a brief conversation last month with Burkett, who told him he had information about Bush to counter charges against Kerry's Vietnam War service. Cleland said he gave Burkett's name and phone number to the campaign's research department.

Kerry spokesman David Ginsberg said nobody in the campaign's research department followed up on Burkett's offer of information.

Lockhart said Mapes asked him the weekend before the story broke to call Burkett. "She basically said there's a guy who is being helpful on the story who wants to talk to you," Lockhart said, adding that it was common knowledge that CBS was working on a story raising questions about Bush's Guard service. Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."


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Another Kerry Konnection!
1 posted on 09/20/2004 5:32:24 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dont Mention the War
DRIP DRIP DRIP

Notice, this is a CLINTON HACK shoving the knife furthur into the Kerry Campaign.

2 posted on 09/20/2004 5:33:40 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

Farewell, Miss Mapes!

3 posted on 09/20/2004 5:34:23 PM PDT by Diago ( "To err is human but to really foul up requires a computer." Actual Dan Rather Quote)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Clintoian, I do not recall. You know the ship is sinking when Lanny Davis hits the airwaves.


4 posted on 09/20/2004 5:34:42 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Dont Mention the War
"He had some advice on how to deal with the Vietnam issue and the Swift boat" allegations, Lockhart said Monday...

And, oh yes, there is a bridge for sale in Manhattan!

5 posted on 09/20/2004 5:34:51 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More ( Kerry is the Hanoi candidate)
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To: Dont Mention the War

I guess that Lockhart & Clelland figured they'd better get out in front of the story before Burkett's phone records came out.


6 posted on 09/20/2004 5:35:36 PM PDT by Tallguy (If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
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To: Dont Mention the War

I wonder if Burkett is a member of a 527 group? : )


7 posted on 09/20/2004 5:35:42 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Maybe next year Essendon Bombers ! You gave it your best.)
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To: Diago

Mapes, your resignation tomorrow morning, por favor.


8 posted on 09/20/2004 5:35:47 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Dont Mention the War

Things that make you say "hmmm" ...


9 posted on 09/20/2004 5:36:22 PM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: Dont Mention the War; Howlin; Mo1; cyncooper
Whoa!!!!!

Get a load of this...

10 posted on 09/20/2004 5:36:29 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dont Mention the War
The Kerry people are trying to cover their tracks for when the phone logs get subpoenaed.
11 posted on 09/20/2004 5:36:43 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: Dont Mention the War

sure looks like a smoking gun to me.


12 posted on 09/20/2004 5:36:47 PM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; mrs tiggywinkle; EllaMinnow; ...

Yoooo .. check this out

dot dot dot


13 posted on 09/20/2004 5:36:47 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Dont Mention the War
he (Lockart)made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

What the Hell?? Talk about CBS being part of the DNC. The media is out finding people to help Democrat campaigns.

14 posted on 09/20/2004 5:36:50 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (I think Kerry needs more cowbell.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Uh-oh


15 posted on 09/20/2004 5:36:57 PM PDT by itsinthebag
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To: Dont Mention the War
"...At the behest of CBS, an adviser to John Kerry said he talked to a central figure in the controversy over President Bush's National Guard service shortly before disputed documents were released.

"Joe Lockhart denied any connection between the presidential campaign and the papers. Lockhart, the second Kerry ally to confirm contact with retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes...."


Let's recap: Lockhart phones Burkett. Lockhart is an adviser to the Kerry campaign. Lockhart denies any connection between the Kerry campaign and the papers.

Okay, got it.
16 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:02 PM PDT by Chummy ("I Rather Know when I See BS." RepublicanAttackSquad.biz: "A vote 4 Kerry is a vote 4 Osama")
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To: Dont Mention the War
Mapes asked him the weekend before the story broke to call Burkett.

. . So CBS calls the Kerry campaign anytime they find anything that will help the Kerry campaign? It was unprofessional and inappropriate for her to do this and it proves the bias CBS is trying to disprove. Also, Lockhart would not volunteer this unless he knew there was worse stuff ahead and he needed to get his part of the nightmare out there early to take the sting out of it.
17 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:10 PM PDT by Vinomori
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To: Dont Mention the War
Lockhart said Mapes asked him the weekend before the story broke to call Burkett. "She basically said there's a guy who is being helpful on the story who wants to talk to you," Lockhart said, adding that it was common knowledge that CBS was working on a story raising questions about Bush's Guard service. Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."

So, now we have Lockhart colluding with Mapes? Is Lockhart the unimpeachable source?

So Mapes is now providing ammunition from CBS's investigations to the Kerry campaign for their use? This just keeps on getting better!

18 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:19 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More ( Kerry is the Hanoi candidate)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Mapes is a goner. Lockhart is a goner. Cleland is a goner. Burkett has been gone for years.


19 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:19 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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To: Diago
Farewell, Miss Mapes!

Yup. Sounds like she's going to be promoted.

20 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:20 PM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: Dog

Did you get me Freepmail


21 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:26 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: Dont Mention the War
said he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes.

WOW, Red Alert! The CBS producer behind the story gives the Kerry campaign advice on where to get dirt on George Bush!! Even ASKS the Kerry campaign to please call and get the dirt. Absolutely corrupt and partisan.

22 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:29 PM PDT by Williams
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To: commish
If he were a Republican, and a guy like Lockhart admitted to contacting Burkett, the pressure on F'n to resign would already be overwhelming. Since he is a RAT, however, the press only has a moderate amount of interest in the story.

A few weeks after the election, we will probably see their true outrage at CBS and Rather, but until then, it is too risky for the MSM to give this story the scrutiny it truly deserves.

23 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:35 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Dont Mention the War
"It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

How the hell could he say this if he -just- joined the campaign??

24 posted on 09/20/2004 5:37:50 PM PDT by TheBigB (Souveniiiirs, noooovelties, paaaarty tricks...)
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To: Dont Mention the War

There's going to be a lot of this coming out with people trying to shift the blame.


25 posted on 09/20/2004 5:38:02 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Dont Mention the War

"he made the call at the suggestion of CBS producer Mary Mapes."

Bingo!! Collution between CBS and Kerry campaign.


26 posted on 09/20/2004 5:38:09 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: Dont Mention the War

Another AP story without a byline. How nice.


27 posted on 09/20/2004 5:38:47 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Tallguy

Exactly what I was thinking...I don't think Burkett wants to go down alone...this is only the beginning


28 posted on 09/20/2004 5:38:56 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: mwl1

They won't fire Mapes -- she knows where all the skeletons are!

That's why, so far, no one has been held accountable for Rathergate.


29 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:02 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Mo1

Yes Mo...I had seen that photo before doing some research..


30 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:09 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dont Mention the War

"I'm proud to say I've never been anybody's lapdog..."
--Dan Rather in The Camera Never Blinks Twice, 1994.


31 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:11 PM PDT by Samwise (Kerry's convoluted speaking style correlates with his convoluted thought processes.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

As anyone explored a possible connection between Robt (Bob) Slagle and Burkett/Kerry/whoever. Slagle, an attorney, is long-time Demo. operative in Texas. In fact, his office is in Sherman, Texas. Just a hunch. Freepmail me if you have any info. I'm working on somethin'.


32 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:28 PM PDT by Lobbyist (qu)
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To: Dont Mention the War

The plot thickens. These fools are into this up to their eyeballs.


33 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:43 PM PDT by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Lockhart recalls the length of the call but does not recall if the National Guard was discussed. Translation, he does not trust Burkett and fears the might be a tape of the conversation. There is trouble in Kerry camp when a spokesman like Lockhart cannot look straight at a camera or a reporter and lie through his teeth and has to use wiggle words like I do not recall. In the good old Clinton days these boys and girls saved the phrase I do not recall, only for when they were under oath.


34 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:45 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Dont Mention the War

Nice Find! Ok we need some people to describe exactly who Joe Lockhart is. That name is very familiar, so I know he must be a high ranking guy. This high ranking person would not talk to just anyone. Wasn't it Burkett himself that said he tried to get through 7 layers of beaurocrat kids?!?

This information couldn't have gone so high without major interest.

Also, Burkett's laywer, Van Os said that (paraphrasing) "I swear on my reputation and my character that my client did not forge this documents and IF they were forged he had no idea they were forged or had anything to do with them"

Van Os is a candidate for the Texas Supreme court and a huge Dem. He wouldn't say this unless he KNEW his client didn't forge them. Why waste your whole career on saying something like that?

This needs to be dissected further. Or as Buckhead might say, "pursued aggresively."


35 posted on 09/20/2004 5:39:49 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/smallbusiness.htm)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Lockhart said Mapes asked him the weekend before the story broke to call Burkett. "She basically said there's a guy who is being helpful on the story who wants to talk to you," Lockhart said, adding that it was common knowledge that CBS was working on a story raising questions about Bush's Guard service. Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."

Why is the producer for the hit piece on the President, calling the Kerry camp and having them talk to the person they say is the source? Something is really wrong with this!

36 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:01 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: Dont Mention the War
Lockhart said, adding that it was common knowledge that CBS was working on a story raising questions about Bush's Guard service. Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward. She didn't tell me what they said."

Riiiiight, we believe you. In a pigs eye.

38 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:24 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

So the "objective" investigative reporter, after finding out about memos she thinks just might sink the Bush reelection hopes innocently contacts Lockhart to tell him that her source has some "advice" for the Kerry campaign. Lockhart, of course, "cannot recall" whether or not the memos were discussed. Right. Of course. Perfectly normal behavior from a non-partisan independant reporter determined not to show favoritism and a principled member of the Kerry Campaign. How dare anyone question their motives. Outrageous. Nothing to see here. Move along.


39 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:26 PM PDT by MMkennedy
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To: Dont Mention the War
You will notice in the third paragraph, AP uses the term "GOP fueled allegations" when referring to the swift boat veterans accusing Kerry. The MSM has to get its dig in at Bush. When referring to Rathergagte they do not say the "Democratic fueled allegations." The hypocrisy of the MSM never ceases to amaze me.
40 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:37 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Dont Mention the War

How can CBS report news if they are collaborating with 60 minutes producers as admitted by Joe Lockheart? Uhm.......Nobody finds that problematic?


41 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:39 PM PDT by blackdog (Proudly wearing Free Republic pajamas, just to piss off Dan Rather.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

"Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records. "It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said."

___________

This is not a catagorical denial. It is non-denial denial; in effect saying "You can't prove it, ha, ha, ha."

But the pajamadeen has started to taste blood, and we ain't backin' down.


42 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:43 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: Mo1

I never had sex with that woman.....


43 posted on 09/20/2004 5:40:46 PM PDT by Texasforever (Mainstream Media Has Been Outsourced.)
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To: TheBigB

Lockhart Statement on President's Remarks

9/20/2004 4:09:00 PM

To: National Desk

Contact: Chad Clanton or Phil Singer, 202-464-2800, both of Kerry-Edwards 2004

WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Kerry-Edwards campaign senior advisor Joe Lockhart released the following statement today:

"Once again, George Bush just can't tell the truth about Iraq. John Kerry was talking about the difference between Saddam Hussein being free in Iraq to direct insurgency operations against our troops versus being captured. John Kerry made clear today we can't change the reality of Iraq until we have a president who's willing to face the reality of Iraq."

http://www.usnewswire.com/

-0-

/© 2004 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/

44 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:08 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: Diago

She'll get the axe after the election. Remember, she's celebrated as the woman who "broke" the Abu Ghraib prison abuse story (not true, but it plays well in the media).


45 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:08 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: Dont Mention the War
"It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

This fat bastard says that with a straight face, after talking to CBS' "unimpeachable source"?

These people are living in a parallel universe.

46 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:17 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Real Cynic No More
Why would CBS in the middle of a story reach out to the Kerry campaign to assist them in getting the dirt. I know why, but obviously as "reporters" CBS was polluting their own story by putting Burkette in touch with the Kerry campaign.

Also, this permitted Mapes to give the dems a heads up to roll those "privileged son" ads.

47 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:20 PM PDT by Williams
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To: EllaMinnow
Lockhart said he thanked Burkett for his advice after a three to four minute call.

Lockhart said he does not recall talking to Burkett about Bush's Guard records. "It's baseless to say the Kerry campaign had anything to do with this," he said.

Well.

I find it interesting that both Cleland and Lockhart make a point of saying their conversations with Burkett were 3-4 minutes (I'm pretty sure that's almost exactly the phrase Cleland used, too).

And we now have an "I don't recall". Why wouldn't he recall, I ask rhetorically.

48 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:47 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: Dont Mention the War; Biblebelter

Sorry, over here.
Can you post that lovely summation of crime over here? I shed a tear when I read it, because I can't type and remain objective - my glee spills over.


49 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:49 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Mapes told him there were some records "that might move the story forward.

That might move the story forward? Sounds like she wanted to move the story forward by becoming part of it. This, IMHO, is the most damning part of the whole story.

50 posted on 09/20/2004 5:41:49 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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