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Tony Coelho Admits on Hardball that the DNC Had Forged Memos Before CBS News Saw Them
Allah Pundit/MSNBC ^ | 09/20/04

Posted on 09/20/2004 7:31:34 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

Tony Coelho admitted on Hardball tonight that the DNC had the memos before CBS but that they didn't use them because they realized that the documents were probably fake.

'He did not come to us, we went to him and asked for the documents.'

Who told CBS/DNC that Burkett had the documents?

I TiVo'ed and watched it again, Surreal.

(Excerpt) Read more at allahpundit.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coelho; killian; napalminthemorning; rathergate; seebsnews; stainedbluememo
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1 posted on 09/20/2004 7:31:35 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

Very important bump.


2 posted on 09/20/2004 7:32:34 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: gopwinsin04
Tony Coelho admitted on Hardball tonight that the DNC had the memos before CBS but that they didn't use them because they realized that the documents were probably fake.

Shadows of Watergate ...

3 posted on 09/20/2004 7:33:11 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: gopwinsin04

My, my, my. What a den of crooks the DNC is.


4 posted on 09/20/2004 7:33:49 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: af_vet_1981

btt


5 posted on 09/20/2004 7:34:14 PM PDT by Covenantor (CBS Counterfeit But Sincere)
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To: gopwinsin04

...And are we surprised, class?





NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 09/20/2004 7:34:54 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Kerry broke the faith, pure and simple.)
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To: Covenantor

Bump


7 posted on 09/20/2004 7:35:36 PM PDT by Gibtx (focus.........)
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To: lepton

bookmark bump


8 posted on 09/20/2004 7:35:37 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MizSterious

We need some mood music. Can anyone hum the theme to "Titanic"?


9 posted on 09/20/2004 7:35:45 PM PDT by madameguinot
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To: gopwinsin04

Sounds like a ruse to throw the investigation off the trail, the trail to the DNC. Not buying this crap, the TANG issue was dead. And all of a sudden the Fortunate Son campaign starts right with the CBS piece. The DNC stinks to high heaven. The RATS are talking, we just need to sort through the pile BS their dropping.


10 posted on 09/20/2004 7:36:12 PM PDT by DAC22
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To: gopwinsin04

Stupid move on the DNC's part then. They should have waived CBS off. Surely they didn't think the memos would fly in the end.


11 posted on 09/20/2004 7:36:21 PM PDT by Torie
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To: gopwinsin04
BTTT
12 posted on 09/20/2004 7:36:37 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: gopwinsin04

What a tangled web they weave in their efforts to deceive.


13 posted on 09/20/2004 7:36:42 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Weirdad
I think we have only seen the very tip of the iceberg on this whole topic.

Jag

14 posted on 09/20/2004 7:36:55 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Howlin; StarFan

ping


15 posted on 09/20/2004 7:37:54 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: gopwinsin04
DNC had the memos before CBS but that they didn't use them because they realized that the documents were probably fake.

In they thought they were fake, why did they run the ad series featuring the memos?

16 posted on 09/20/2004 7:38:54 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: gopwinsin04

So the Kerry campaign was in possession of forged federal documents but did not report them? Hmmmmmm.


17 posted on 09/20/2004 7:39:40 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: gopwinsin04
YIKES!!! Ya know, it's scary when a democrat tells the truth.
18 posted on 09/20/2004 7:40:49 PM PDT by MsLady
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To: Constitution Day
"BTTT"

Good thing keyboards are cheap...because mine has coffee spewed all over it now.

19 posted on 09/20/2004 7:40:55 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: Torie
Stupid move on the DNC's part then. They should have waived CBS off. Surely they didn't think the memos would fly in the end.

Desperate people act desperately.

20 posted on 09/20/2004 7:41:25 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: gopwinsin04
I understand the purposre of ellipsis in headline writing and all that, but this is a time the definite article should not have been ommitted.

There is a difference between
the DNC Had [the] Forged Memos Before CBS News Saw Them and
the DNC Had Forged [the] Memos Before CBS News Saw Them

21 posted on 09/20/2004 7:42:11 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: gopwinsin04

So, they're rehabilitating Coelho? I remember when he was a great fundraiser and then didn't he resign over something???

Something fiscally improper I seem to recall.


22 posted on 09/20/2004 7:42:25 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, Do you like it Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili...)
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To: ModelBreaker
And why did McAwful go on TV and say the memos are real. In fact the DNC is still running the story.

Doesn't pass the smell test.

The DNC fed the docs to CBS and CBS pressured Burkette. Don't forget Barnes is in the mix and I heard somewhere he wouldn't go on air for CBS unless there was a corroborating source. The memos just happened to be that source. All the pieces fit ...
23 posted on 09/20/2004 7:42:48 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: gopwinsin04

Wow! The beans keep spilling all over the place!


24 posted on 09/20/2004 7:43:00 PM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Heh heh, thanks.

Hope you observed "Talk Like A Pirate Day" this weekend!

25 posted on 09/20/2004 7:43:11 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Swab the blog deck, ye scurvy pajama dogs!)
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To: gopwinsin04

The pace of breaking news is staggering tonight. I wish they would slow it down some. I am having trouble savoring every last morsel.


26 posted on 09/20/2004 7:43:27 PM PDT by Pete
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To: gopwinsin04
but that they didn't use them because they realized that the documents were probably fake.

That would explain why "Fortunate Son" didn't fire up until the day CBS ran with the story. And it explains why the DNC is still running ads based on the fakes.

27 posted on 09/20/2004 7:43:42 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: ModelBreaker
In they thought they were fake, why did they run the ad series featuring the memos?

THAT is a very good question that we need to remember to get an answer for.

28 posted on 09/20/2004 7:44:12 PM PDT by Pete
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To: gopwinsin04

bump


29 posted on 09/20/2004 7:44:17 PM PDT by meema
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To: gopwinsin04

Tony Coelho said that the DNC went to Burkett? He actually said that?

Well, if Mapes told Lockhart and Cleland and the DNC/Kerry camp got the documents but didn't use them because they thought they were fakes, didn't they bother to tell CBS?

Tony Coelho is a certified liar, remember that.


30 posted on 09/20/2004 7:44:27 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: finnman69

This article is looking more and more like it's completely factual:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211690/posts


31 posted on 09/20/2004 7:45:36 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: MizSterious

This current DNC talking point/story is as fake as the documents themselves. Lemme get this straight---the DNC thought the docs were fake, but passed them on to CBS, knowing that Rather and CBS would do ANYTHING to get in the good graces of the DNC and maybe get special access to the inevitable new Kerry Administration. (Pause) Actually that does sound plausible on both sides of the equation.


32 posted on 09/20/2004 7:46:18 PM PDT by willyboyishere ( i)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

This is popcorn time.....no commentary needed.


33 posted on 09/20/2004 7:46:51 PM PDT by xp38
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To: af_vet_1981

They didn't use them? They put those documents right in their Fortunate Son video. Is that what they call not using them?


34 posted on 09/20/2004 7:47:06 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Loyal member of the Pajama Republic)
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To: ModelBreaker
In they thought they were fake, why did they run the ad series featuring the memos?

Because its worked so many times before. Before the internet, very few people had access to the "props" that CBS and company used to justify their positions.

35 posted on 09/20/2004 7:47:28 PM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: gopwinsin04
Ahh Not the DNC a pillar of integrity {sarcasm}
36 posted on 09/20/2004 7:47:47 PM PDT by Fast1 (Kerry for an Islamic America.)
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To: Lx

I thought Coelho was in jail.


37 posted on 09/20/2004 7:48:15 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: madameguinot
We need some mood music. Can anyone hum the theme to "Titanic"?

Nah - the Titanic took much longer to sink - try the Lucetania.

38 posted on 09/20/2004 7:48:23 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: gopwinsin04

Didn't the DNC deny they had the documents? Or did no reporter bother to ask them?


39 posted on 09/20/2004 7:48:30 PM PDT by spyone
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To: meema; Mo1; nicmarlo

It just keeps getting more interesting. Their blind hatred is going to be their ultimate downfall.


40 posted on 09/20/2004 7:48:30 PM PDT by sweetliberty (We're proud to be Pajama People!)
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To: gopwinsin04
"but that they didn't use them because they realized that the documents were probably fake."

So, in basing Operation Fortunate Son in part on the release of the memos, we know conclusively one of two things:

1. Tony Coelho is lying, and the Kerry campaign, believing the memos to be true, was coordinating the attack with CBS based on these memos. Very scummy.

2. Tony Coelho is telling the truth, and the Kerry campaign, realizing the memos were likely fakes, was coordinating the attack with CBS based on these memos. Scummy ultra.

41 posted on 09/20/2004 7:49:45 PM PDT by sitetest (Spitball Kerry for Collaborator-in-Chief!)
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To: Weirdad
The DNC could not air the memos themselves without fear of backlash. Since they had the documents, they couldn't legally coordinate with a 527, like Move On.org. Going to the networks was a sanitary way to get the smear out without the sticky problem of the DNC having their fingerprints on them. Journalists can protect their sources.

But, CBS got sloppy and posted the .pdf files. If they had simply run with the story, they would have never been found out. The WH and the RNC would not raise the question since it would have only led to a broader story than the orginal broadcast. The PajamaHademe would not have had the credentials to challenge CBS to see the originals.

Thanks to someone at CBS for being too smart by half and posting those docs to add "gravitas" to their story.

Could that someone be a Freeper?

42 posted on 09/20/2004 7:49:50 PM PDT by Kowdawg
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To: willyboyishere

I've no doubt the DNC saw the documents before CBS, because I think that is where they were generated. Mrs PD


43 posted on 09/20/2004 7:49:50 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: gopwinsin04

So in other words, the DNC got CBS to try to pass forgeries so the 'rats could keep their hands clean.


44 posted on 09/20/2004 7:50:00 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: ModelBreaker
In they thought they were fake, why did they run the ad series featuring the memos? Bang! Great question! Expect somebody to ask McAwful that tomrrow morning..yeah right.
45 posted on 09/20/2004 7:50:03 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: gopwinsin04

Everybody - get yer cammie jammies out of the truck; it's going to take some undercover digging to unearth these 'Rats.


46 posted on 09/20/2004 7:50:12 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: gopwinsin04

What a night, bump!


47 posted on 09/20/2004 7:50:40 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (SPITBALLS?!)
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To: gopwinsin04
Elections Summed Up In A Few Words:

1968: Vietnam and Chicago

1980: Reagan Revolution

2000: Florida

2004: Vietnam and Bloggers

48 posted on 09/20/2004 7:50:59 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: gopwinsin04

Could they be trying to save senate and house seats? sKerry is expendable, but those senate and house seats aren't.


49 posted on 09/20/2004 7:51:02 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: DAC22

"Fortunate Son"

FYI, that isn't merely the title from a song from the 1960's, it's the title of a book about Bush II, probably atleast 4 years old.


50 posted on 09/20/2004 7:51:46 PM PDT by Shermy
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