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MTV Running Ad Saying Kids Will Be Drafted!!
MTV Choose or Lose | ??? | MTV

Posted on 09/21/2004 7:20:18 PM PDT by SW6906

Last night I was channel surfing and I stopped on MTV. I could not believe what I saw. I'll try to recap it as best I can recall:

They have a Choose or Lose commercial running showing a bunch of people in a party. A girl asks a guy something like does he plan to vote in the election. He says no, derisively. She says he should because of the draft! The announcer says that people should vote becuase issues like the draft will be decided by this election.

I was stunned by what I saw! MTV is trying to scare young voters into believing there is going to be a draft!!

Unbelieveable how far the DemRats have sunk. Just when you think they can go no lower......


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chooseorlose; draft; draftscare; medialies; mtv
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Anyone else seen this? I searched their site (I feel like I need a bath!), but I couldn't find anything about this.
1 posted on 09/21/2004 7:20:19 PM PDT by SW6906
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To: SW6906

Find a link. We need to raise awareness of this to others.


2 posted on 09/21/2004 7:21:39 PM PDT by jbstrick (War is not fought for peace. War is fought for victory.)
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To: SW6906
MTV is owned by Viacom which owns CBS.
3 posted on 09/21/2004 7:21:50 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: Libertina; CyberCowboy777; cmsgop

Ping!


4 posted on 09/21/2004 7:22:05 PM PDT by SW6906
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To: SW6906

I am going to call J.D. Hayworth's office in the morning.


5 posted on 09/21/2004 7:22:17 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: SW6906
I saw the head of "rock the vote" on a cable news show over the weekend saying that they were going to put on these ads. miserable b*stards. W is still pretty strong with younger voters, however.
6 posted on 09/21/2004 7:22:47 PM PDT by smonk
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To: SW6906

Anyone have a phone number for MTV? I'm in the calling mood!


7 posted on 09/21/2004 7:23:22 PM PDT by Cosmo (Dan Rather is F@$#$ed : F@#$@ed like a horned toad under a moonlit Texas sky.)
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To: SW6906

Maybe that commerical should tell the kids that the only two calling for a draft in the Congress are Dem's.


8 posted on 09/21/2004 7:23:52 PM PDT by mware
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To: SW6906
It has been the Democratic legislators that have been pushing for the draft.
9 posted on 09/21/2004 7:24:08 PM PDT by DrDavid (I'd Rather Not)
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To: SW6906
The announcer says that people should vote becuase issues like the draft will be decided by this election.

That's absolutely correct.

If the DemoncRATS win they will initiate the draft for the express purpose of getting people to be against finishing what the Islamosfascists started.

10 posted on 09/21/2004 7:24:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Before people do anything about this, try to confirm it. I know what I saw, but I don't have any proof. I couldn't find anything on their site.

If you do call anyone about this, tell them it needs to be confirmed before action is taken.

11 posted on 09/21/2004 7:24:33 PM PDT by SW6906
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To: Paleo Conservative

And if these kids were smart enough to study history they would see it is a Democrat President that drafts young Americans, President Roosevelt (Democrat), President Johnson (Democrat)..........


12 posted on 09/21/2004 7:25:27 PM PDT by Two-Bits (I am voting in memory for those that can not vote since 9/11! Vote George W Bush)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

I saw some today holding signs on TRL saying "Vote or Die!" Now I know what they meant.


13 posted on 09/21/2004 7:25:39 PM PDT by Master of Orion
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To: SW6906

Rock The Vote is coming to Austin, TX to UT's campus this week, I think. Maybe the heart of Texas chapter could gin something up.


14 posted on 09/21/2004 7:25:45 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Ted Kennedy is a disgusting toad)
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To: SW6906

I have also heard that AOL is running on their Home Page, something that is basically the same. Trying to scare the kids into voting Dems.


15 posted on 09/21/2004 7:25:59 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: SW6906

I have seen this over at the DUmmies cave. They are working hard to convince all 18 to 25 year olds, and "send it to parents of them also" that a vote for Bush, is a vote for the draft... they have a "letter" to cut and paste to everyone on their email list.

sooooo scary the tactics they are using


16 posted on 09/21/2004 7:26:10 PM PDT by backinthefold (Yes, I see things differently, I was a breech birth, I entered the world with a vertical smile)
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To: SW6906
Sounds like an extension of their Viral Marketing campaign:
http://www.mbaassociation.org/index.php?name=Articles&op=show&id=518

Follows right up their alley with passing along (or starting) urban legend e-mail chains or article passing. It doesn't matter if it is true, what matters is if some people think it is and talk to others, and talk to others, and so on and so on...
17 posted on 09/21/2004 7:26:24 PM PDT by mnehring (cBS- Fourth Column, Fifth Estate, Disinformers)
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To: SW6906







18 posted on 09/21/2004 7:26:47 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: SW6906

Don't let the unwashed in my Air Force !


19 posted on 09/21/2004 7:26:59 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: SW6906

Fast counter to draft rumors. Under Reagan the US could support a sixteen division Army, 500 ship Navy (2 Marine Div) and 22 tactical air wing Airforce with an all volunteer military. Today we only have ten divisions, 240 ships (2 Marine Div) and 14 wings. We would have to increase our standing military substantially above Reagan levels before a draft can be considered.


20 posted on 09/21/2004 7:27:21 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: mware

"Maybe that commerical should tell the kids that the only two calling for a draft in the Congress are Dem's."

LOL, you are the 1st person I have seen post this fact. I was beginning to wonder if I was seeing it wrong.
I have been noticeing this for months while they cry that Reps. are going to start a draft.
Grrr! The things dems get by with make me crazy!!!



21 posted on 09/21/2004 7:27:36 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: SW6906
MTV Running Ad Saying Kids Will Be Drafted!!

Maybe if Kerry wins in November.
He's the one that's promised to deploy 40,000 more US military personnel
to everyplace...but Iraq.
22 posted on 09/21/2004 7:28:15 PM PDT by VOA
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To: SW6906
Most of you have probably seen this by now. They're all a-twitter about this over at DU. They think the draft issue will help them win the election, so they're copying this and putting it up around colleges. I hate to discourage our friends at DU but I don't think it's going to work.


23 posted on 09/21/2004 7:28:15 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: SW6906; All
Did anyone hear Paul Harvey's story a day or two ago about the numb skull who had his buddy shoot him in the leg so he wouldn't be drafted?
24 posted on 09/21/2004 7:28:46 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Flightdeck
Rock The Vote is coming to Austin, TX to UT's campus this week, I think.

They might as well go to Berkeley. UT is so far off in left field that its known as Berserkly on the Colorado.

25 posted on 09/21/2004 7:28:55 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: SW6906
Kerry would need to draft so that the US would have an army. Those who the Democrats are trying to scare are those who we don't want anywhere near our armed forces but John Kerry already pointed his finger at them....they would be our "New Soldiers". You MTV soldier, you are all John Kerry will have at his disposal to field an army.
26 posted on 09/21/2004 7:28:56 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: DrDavid
But did MTV say it's the Dem's who would push the draft ???

VERY Important.

27 posted on 09/21/2004 7:29:01 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (We're preaching to the choir. Get out and correctly persuade people to vote for Bush !!)
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To: Master of Orion
I saw it too...

Man, we're in a battle.

28 posted on 09/21/2004 7:30:39 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (We're preaching to the choir. Get out and correctly persuade people to vote for Bush !!)
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To: SW6906; Howlin
He says no, derisively. She says he should because of the draft! The announcer says that people should vote becuase issues like the draft will be decided by this election.

Well trolling the left sites I noticed they were telling others to push the draft story

Correct me if I am wrong .. But wasn't it Democrat, Charlie Rangel that was pushing for a draft??

29 posted on 09/21/2004 7:30:55 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: SW6906
Point here. Does anyone really not believe that the release of the memo story goes well beyond Dan Rather - who afterall is just a talking head - and is a carefully laid strategy? Afterall, Sumner Redstone didn't summarily fire Rather after the admission and there's some momentum gaining on the 'GOP operative' story.

I have a feeling there are some mighty powerful forces behind a much grander scheme.

30 posted on 09/21/2004 7:32:05 PM PDT by Archangelsk (Plain, simple soldier. Nothing more, nothing less.)
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To: SW6906

Related thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1222800/posts


31 posted on 09/21/2004 7:32:25 PM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: SW6906

I have said this here before: Never was the military held in lower esteem than toward the end of the Viet Nam war, a time which coincides with the "golden age" of contemporary liberalism.

It is in the interest of liberals to create "quagmires", reinstitute the draft, and take us down that same road again.

Liberals loved what the Viet Nam war gave them. Which is why wars must be fought swiftly and with conviction.

But a war that has already lasted 1000 years is upon us. Follow the liberals and your grandchildren will kneel on a carpet and bow toward Mecca.


32 posted on 09/21/2004 7:32:26 PM PDT by motor_racer
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To: 68skylark

WOW !


33 posted on 09/21/2004 7:32:43 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (We're preaching to the choir. Get out and correctly persuade people to vote for Bush !!)
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To: 68skylark

bttt


34 posted on 09/21/2004 7:33:35 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Mo1

"But wasn't it Democrat, Charlie Rangel that was pushing for a draft??"

Yes, in between ambulance chasing expeditions!


35 posted on 09/21/2004 7:33:53 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim_Curtis
I served under Carter and Clinton.

I don't think I could handle my son having to serve under Kerry.

NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE

36 posted on 09/21/2004 7:34:06 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: SW6906

Anyone who believes anything on MTV isn't too bright to begin with and will vote for Kerry, regardless.

It's like taking election information from old, retired, unemployed rock singers.


37 posted on 09/21/2004 7:34:17 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: 68skylark

Betcha Snopes says it's real.


38 posted on 09/21/2004 7:34:25 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: SW6906

MTV is owned by the same company as CBS. No surprise.


39 posted on 09/21/2004 7:34:26 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SW6906
All these sniveling little cowards. They shouldn't be waiting for a draft, they should be enlisting right now. I joined the Army when I was 17 years old, a week after I graduated from high school during Nam. I am disgusted by these lazy, pussy losers.
40 posted on 09/21/2004 7:36:12 PM PDT by Lockbar (Worried about lead poisoning? Then stop eating the paint chips, Dummy!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
MTV is owned by the same company as CBS.

Sounds like more collusion to me.

41 posted on 09/21/2004 7:36:24 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: 68skylark

That document is probably a forgery.....could lead to the Forger-in-Chief.


42 posted on 09/21/2004 7:37:09 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kerry: He began by trashing the VN Vets. He ends by trashing the NG. Such class is rarely seen.)
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To: SW6906

have not seen it but it seems to track with the leftist nazi obsession. Hitler used children in the end to protect his bunker.

If MTV was optional it would loose viability.


43 posted on 09/21/2004 7:37:36 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: Fee
We would have to increase our standing military substantially above Reagan levels before a draft can be considered.

Bingo. If we want a larger military we can have it without a draft. An draft is neither wanted or needed, except by Chucky Rangle and his ilk.

44 posted on 09/21/2004 7:37:46 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (There is no Chaos. Only very complicated Order. (Presenting Lady Snuggles of the Lethal Yew in PJ's!)
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To: SW6906

This commercial may have been ran on MTV. But was it an MTV ad??? I would really like to see evidence about that before everyone gets all crazy or else we'll start sounding like the hysterical nutjobs at DU.


45 posted on 09/21/2004 7:39:54 PM PDT by Tempest (Don't blame me, I'm voting for Bush.)
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To: 68skylark; All
The DU'ers got their hands on an internal memo from the selective service. It was rather long winded memo about the future of the agency and differnet roles it could play, and most went into theoretical concepts. One of them being that the agency has no contigency plan for a skills based draft, and what could be done to register skills based applicants.

To actually put a policy into effect applicants would have to reregister every few years and tell them what skills they have learned (i.e. Medical, foreign language skills, computer technician, etc.). To actually put such a policy into effect, at the rate that gubiment moves, we could be talking 5-10 years at least.

The DU idiots pulled June 2005 out of their @$$ and act like its written in stone.

46 posted on 09/21/2004 7:41:55 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: SW6906
I searched their site (I feel like I need a bath!),

Wow, what a brave American you are. I wouldn't touch that site for fearing of getting herpes just from the cyber proximity.

47 posted on 09/21/2004 7:43:50 PM PDT by Wonderama
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Chucky Rangle and his ilk.

Don't forget that one of the main goals of the left during the sixties was not just to stop the draft it was to destroy the military.

They haven't been able to accomplish this in the last forty years, and not from lack of trying.

The military's success in Afghanistan and Iraq has just made them boil again. They don't want the military to have any respect which is why they took such glee in the trumped up prison abuse.

Don't forget how many stories appeared on the front page of the NYT to keep the story alive, the fake photos in the Boston Globe. And, let's not forget Mary Mapes and Dan Rather's part in this story.

That's why they won't print any of the good things that are happening in Iraq because they would have to give credit to the military -- and they would rather destroy them.

48 posted on 09/21/2004 7:45:54 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I just have to stand by my tagline....


49 posted on 09/21/2004 7:47:30 PM PDT by antceecee (MSM...time after time after time after time they tell lie after lie after lie after lie.)
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To: SW6906
MTV=Viacom=CBS=sKerry campaign. . .

I'm sure MTV's advice on dodging the imaginary draft is to do a lot of drugs and get a medical disqualification.

50 posted on 09/21/2004 7:47:30 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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