Skip to comments.Can blogers time travel?
Posted on 09/21/2004 8:18:06 PM PDT by infool7
Where was the blogosphere when the MSM was running things uncontested, pouring deception, misinformation and outright lies into our unquestioning minds without any regard for the truth. I fell for many of the lies because everyone was telling them and apparently no one was asking if the absurdly twisted stories were real. I guess the peek behind the curtain recently revealed by Rather gate has made me more then a little unhappy. I now realize that the past is full of many unheard voices, silenced, discredited and smeared into obscurity. I believe that the time has come and the power of the blogosphere to traverse backwards in time will allow the full depth of the deceit to come to light. If the blogosphere can reach back into the 70s more news reports can be scrutinized for further examples of mangled and misrepresented facts. I remember reading about George H W Bush and the grocery scanner, I really thought that he was an elitist idiot, at the time. I now know better but how long has this been going on? Tug
. no pull
. no tie this thread to a train. Theres no telling what will come unraveled.
Id say that can wait until after November 2, right?
No but if its got a good beat they usually can dance to it!!!!!!!!!!
What's a bloger?
As for going back in time the people being investigated will just say it's old news, move along now....
Okay, I give. What the hell is a 'bloger'?
You should take a look at the McCarthy era, House of Un-American Activities. Talk about revision.....
PS: Here is the left's playbook, don't ever forget it
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Doh. Female blogger.
Cmon guys that was from before I was born. It can't go back that far ;) Can it?
Doh. Female blogger.
Wow. I'd have thought that was a blogette. ; )
It would be nice if we were taken seriously enough to get sincere coverage talking about the truth of Waco, TWA 800, Vince Foster, etc., but I doubt it'll happen.
You are right.
Ann Coulter covered the old smears - back in the day when the Liberals GOT AWAY WITH IT - in "Treason". (I guess "slander" too but never read that one). She covered the old ground of "McCarthyism" and how that noble but flawed anti-Communist warrior was trashed and thrashed and slandered practically to his grave, and how the liberals rewrote history to associate him with infamy.
The Liberals never give up and never quit. It's why you can never let them win. Not now, not ever. Give em an inch they take a mile, so to speak.
Oh oh. You have me there.
I'll have to go back to the drawing board....
It was before I was born as well. And yes...it probably goes back even further.
Liberals "borrowed" a page from the Commie playbook:
"Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our critics when obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist or Nazi or anti-Semitic Constantly associate those who oppose us with those names that already have a bad smell. The association will, after enough repetition, become 'fact' in the public mind."
We need to look at the past -- once the election is over. Many of us have pieces of the truth, pictures might emerge.
I have no idea when you were born but use of the supposedly independent media to influence public opinion is as old as the media.
Most of what you suggest is already documented somewhere. Why go back? You know what you're going to find.
The evil of today is sufficient.
By learning about the past it is possible to see trends and understand where the future is heading, to a certain degree. The march of Liberalism goes on......
Rush once read a MSM account about how ex-prez Slick had trouble understanding/using FAXes and or Cell Phones.
This never got the mileage of the touchy-feely Bush Sr. story. (But then again, '92 was the election where the candidates were told that the voters were "their children").
I read a story once that said he only sent one email during his 8 years in office. YEAH RIGHT!!!
Boogers, yes. Blogers, no.
The leftists sold America some remarkably vicious fairy tales when they owned all the information channels. It isn't exactly a blog, but you'll find our own effort to examine some of yesterday's lies at WinterSoldier.com.
Yes, it can and does go that far back. This is a reason to listen to your elders.
I.E., use "Political Correctness" propaganda. It silences any dissent.
Blogers can't time travel.
The Pajama-hadeen can.
Blogers can't time travel.
The Pajama-hadeen can.
For PC, one should study Herbert Marcuse and the Frankfurt School.
IV. Herbert Marcuse, 1898-1979
A. Bourgeois Capitalist civilization must be overthrown by discrediting existing beliefs and replacing them with
revolutionary or proto-revolutionary beliefs.
B. Founding Father of Political Correctness
1. "Free Expression" is actually repressive, because it permits the bourgeois capitalists and other counter-revolutionary or anti-revolutionary individuals and groups to express their beliefs and values - values that must be overthrown.
2. Advocates "the withdrawal of toleration of speech and assembly" for conservative or Christian individuals and groups
a. Denounce them as hate groups, atavistic, fascist,
b. Denounce conservative or Christian speech as hate speech
d. Do not allow colleges or universities to become "forums" for politically incorrect speech
3. Advocates "Liberating Tolerance"
a. "intolerance against movements from the Right, and toleration of movements from the Left."
b. "new and rigid restrictions on teaching and practices in the educational institution" to indoctrinate students "progressive" values
c. Speech Codes on campuses
d. Reject the values of Western Civilization as "regressive"
e. Reject the "Western Canon" of literature as "regressive"
f. Promote Marxism as "progressive"
g. Denounce and discredit those who resist this "progressive" agenda as "reactionary" or "fascist" "racist" or "the extreme right" etc.
No doubt, I've always loved to study history. I would never discourage anyone from doing that.
Perhaps I read too much into the post but it seemed to me to be suggesting using the "blogosphere", whatever that is, to reseasrch, discover, and document media bias, lies, etc.
It's been done, repeatedly. We all already know it is there and has always been there. Today and tomorrow are when we can do something about it.
I had some clues that it has been present for quite a while. My Father was an MP in WWII and he warned me about what he called the one world-ers and the CFR. I always thought he was a bit eccentric and a bit of a conspiracy theorist. I am getting into my 40s this stuff is beginning to make sense. It makes me wonder about the world my children are going to have to live in.
BTW, ever heard the phrase "Make Love, Not War"? That was coined by Herbert Marcuse!!
Ever heard "Think Globally, Act Locally"? That was LENIN!!!
It's very scary how pervasive Communist ideas have become.
I wrote you next year. Are you going to respond or not?
I am sorry I was reading an interesting email that portends to be from my future self. I guess everything eventually works out ok(all correct).
I think a bloger is one of those pajamma werers in Tiuwanna. They use beeber devices pretty stuningly.
To complete your education get hold of a copy of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and read it. It is the Democrat's playbook.
Alinsky was hillary clinton's mentor.
The Dems used his tactics to try and steal the last election. their fury over 2000 is that they know they cheated but still lost.
Thanks for all the good points everyone, this is truly eye-opening.
Isn't it a position in Quiditch?
I think it's something an elitist cleans out of his nose.
Hello, no problem. Just want the word spread as much as possible.
"Political Correctness: The Scourge of Our Times "
"Marxist Origens of Political Correctness "
PS. here are some more lists:
II.Vladimir Ilych Lenin, 1870-1924
1.Bourgeois Capitalism will decline into Imperialism
2.Imperialism will decline into Fascism (modern term)
1.Historical progress can be accelerated, even planned
a.Leaders who dedicate "all the days of their lives"
to the revolution
2.Revolutionary agitation to enlighten the masses
a."Think globally, act locally"
b.Fan the flames of discontent
3.Professional revolutionary leaders direct the revolution
a."By any means necessary"
4.Iskra, the Spark
a.Revolutionary agitation can spark radical change
b.With proper guidance and planning, the revolution can
progress quickly from Capitalism to Socialism to Communism
c.The Revolutionary leadership must heighten the class
struggle through the Dictatorship of the Proletariat
III.Antonio Gramschi, 1891-1937
A.The New Order (L'Ordine Nuovo)
1.Italian Communist newspaper, founded 1919
2.Co-founder of Italian Communist Party, 1921
3.Pre-Prison Writings, ed. Richard Bellamy (Cambridge, 1994)
4.Selections from the Prison Notebooks (Intl. Publishers, 1971)
B.Lenin was wrong, and the Leninist revolution will fail
1.The workers will see the revolutionary government as a new boss
2.When the revolution fails, the west will re-import Capitalism
C.Gradual revolution: infiltrate, Co-opt, Subvert
1.Infiltrate the State: elective & appointed office; judgeships
2.Infiltrate the military: enlist & subvert from within
3.Infiltrate justice: undermine and discredit state constitutions
4.Infiltrate education: professors & administrators
5.Infiltrate & discredit religion: scoundrels as clergymen
6.Register, then license, then confiscate all privately held weapons
D.Form or infiltrate international organizations to promote goals such as
"global understanding," "economic development," "transfer of resources"
E.Both Capitalism and Judaeo-Christian culture must be destroyed before a
Communist revolution can succeed
1.Religious sentiment cannot be destroyed through legislation, as
Lenin believed, but must be redirected from the divine to the state
a.Terror will only drive Religion underground
b.Religion will then reemerge when Leninism fails
c.So Religion must be destroyed in the minds of men
2.Infiltrate religious academies and become priests and clergymen
a.Subtly promote heresy within religious organizations
b.Infiltrators must act so as to discredit the church
(1)Cause financial and sexual scandals
(2)See that this is given a high profile in the news
(3)Like-minded infiltrators in the media will cooperate
3.Once religion is discredited from within, continuously promote the
idea that only the state can solve the problems that have been
traditionally brought before the church
F.When propagating revolutionary ideas, cloak them in polite terms
G.Marxists "must enter into every civil, cultural, and political activity
in every nation, leavening them as yeast leavens bread."
H. Subvert the existing hegemonic culture and replace it with
a "counter-hegemony" that is based on the revolutionary
culture of the oppressed masses
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